Fils-Aime promises "much better" E3 News

Fils-Aime looks like a Bo Selecta caricature. And surely a Bo Selecta game would appeal to the chavtastic masses? Get to it, Reggie.

We 'hardcore' fans who loyally got N64 and Gamecube needs a far better offerings from Nintendo, sure I accept that they need to also focus on the lucrative 'casual' market but as the Wii is NOT doing well in Japan at moment. Most of us knew there is limited shelf life for mass consumer as they easily moved onto other fad or just buying Wii plus 1 or 2 games for rest of the console's life.

The market is also about serving the consumers who are damn prepared to give their hard earned cashes for more of the Zelda, Mario plus new innovative fun gaming such as World of Goo.

The proof as always is in the pudding and I ll wait and see what they ll come up with first.

Wii Music 2?

"Most of us knew there is limited shelf life for mass consumer as they easily moved onto other fad or just buying Wii plus 1 or 2 games for rest of the console's life."

I look at the DS and wonder whether this is true... or is handheld a very different market to home console?

"The proof as always is in the pudding and I ll wait and see what they ll come up with first."

Which pudding is this exactly? The Wii Fit topping the charts for a record 11 weeks pudding?

"Which pudding is this exactly? The Wii Fit topping the charts for a record 11 weeks pudding? "

No, more like the 'not even bothering to have a decent game last Christmas' pudding.

"The market is also about serving the consumers who are damn prepared to give their hard earned cashes for more of the Zelda, Mario plus new innovative fun gaming such as World of Goo."

The market is about making money by selling goods that were produced as cheaply as possible. If Mario or Zelda don't work that way anymore, tough deku nuts.

well it is about time to churn out another Zelda game... and maybe another Mario to boot..

Oh and ffs, please let it be something else than another mario or zelda game. After 20 years, enough is enough.

...mentioning the unnamed projects being created by the Zelda and Mario teams.

^_^

With just a month from now, we can only wait and see if that's true.

But lately Reggie has been on an epic fail streak so I'm not expecting much.

I don't think they would be making promises and setting themselves up for an eventual backlash after E3 so I'm inclined to believe interesting news is coming.

Perhaps a new Pilot Wings, or a new Blast Corps (unless Rare own the IP), more Pikmin would be great also.

It'll just be a GraphJam fan convention again. We all know it, he knows it, why bother lying.

Well at least it can't be worse than last year......right??

I'm not holding my breath that we'll get any kind of huge earth-shattering announcement. I mean, I love Mario and Zelda, and will happily play any new titles, but I'd quite like something really new that isn't just an update of an old title or a collection of minigames - something with some real depth that's gonna take weeks to finish

I think a new Starfox could possibly persuade me to get one...

Kid Icarus or new Starfox please!!
Anyway I'm quietly getting excited about Nintendo's E3 conference, but still with a bit of worry.

Ah so they will probably release Wii Fit 2 :)

oh god what did he say this for



usual wii thread pissing and moaning

"needs a zelda or a mario!"

"it better not be a zelda or a mario!"

or crying for updates to their other IPs, only for any actual announcement of them to be dismissed as crap right away despite it being exactly as it should be (see: Animal Crossing.)

The kid in me is hopeful that they'll announce a proper Starfox sequel (none of this RPG/ strategy arse, just a straight on rails shooter with bags of Nintendo magic).

But the adult in me is grimly pessimistic that they'll announce Wii Play 2 with a free nunchuck.

"So what if Wii fit tops the charts for 11 weeks, are you a gamer or a Nintendo employee?. Why does non game stuff like this at the top of the charts make you happy?."

Who said it makes me happy? Who said it makes me anything? I am making an observation that comments like:

"Most of us knew there is limited shelf life for mass consumer as they easily moved onto other fad"

seem at odds to the reality of the situation: that Wii Fit continues to sell better than any so called 'hardcore' games.

So, why do Nintendo have to come up with the greatest ever Zelda or F-Zero? Why do you think they will (or should) give a flying fudgebar whether they are being laughed at by 'real gamers'? It was pitching their last two consoles at 'real gamers' that turned them into such rip-roaring failures.

I don't understand this notion that Nintendo owe me something any more than the notion that I owe Nintendo anything. If they want to become the world's most successful manufacturer of lifestyle apps and games for my mum, then good luck to them. It's better than them becoming yet another bankrupt developer of 'real' games for 'real' gamers.

>I look at the DS and wonder whether this is true... or is handheld a very different market to home console?

DS has had a good run of 'proper' games- in fact, the 'casual' market didn't really latch onto DS until Brain Training, six months after the DS was released, and even then it wasn't for a long time after that 'casual' became a marketable demographic.

Wii has had Wii Sports since day one and has only really seen anything beefier recently, and since only Sega seem to want to make anything other than minigame compilations (although Nintendo have probably released as many 'proper' games on Wii so far as they had at this stage of the GC's life) it's not really managed the same wide appeal.

"It cant be worse than last year"

They could take a shit into a plastic Wii case and it would probably be a better showing than last year.

REGGEEEEEEHHHHHH!

@Lord

Did you mean Metroid instead of Turrican?

Talking about that, I'd love a new 2D Turrican. And bring back the guy who did those awesome German synth tracks as well:P

Even if they didn't turn up it would be better than the truly AWFUL E3 Ninty had last year, mind you all 3 should be looking to up their game massively this year to keep gamers even remotely interested in this annual sales meeting.

Creepy Reg says core fans, so Zelda, Mario....er...that's all the "core" gamers want isn't it?

Still, while I cringe at most stuff on Wii and DS, I will, as always, tune in to see if they can win me back. Doubt it, although a new Star Fox based on the first or SF64 - NOTHING AFTER might work Ninty....

"although he denied ignoring core Wii owners on purpose."

I can see that. After all it does take a while to make big games like mario and zelda - so maybe last year there was just nothing ready to show.

Yawn, Nintendo - yawn.

I'll wait for all of this to happen, as you've bullshitted the core audience so far. Congrats on all of those sales though, and congrats on having an excellent console strategy and marketing campaign.

Now bring on the Wiimotionplus integration and the flood of DECENT games. Otherwise - see ya in 5 years.

As much as it will annoy the hardcore..the smart titles to concentrate on in their conference will be Wii Sports Resort and Wii Fit Plus (if it exists)....oh and ROB 2 if they want a new gimmick to hook the masses.

E3 is little more than a place to advertise your most likely system sellers.

As far as F-Zero..if I was Nintendo I would stick Mario and chums in the vehicles and call it" Mario Kart Future"..it would guarantee an extra 10 million + sales.

Ye-fucking-awn.

Once apon a time I played a game on the wii

Things most of us want (probably): Starfox, Pilotwings, 1080, F-Zero

Things we'll be pleased with, but not surprised by: Super Mario, Zelda

Things we'll all moan about: Wii Fit 2, Animal Crossing, Mario Party 18 (or whatever number it's up to now)

Things I personally would really like to see: Zack & Wiki 2, new Okami (both with MotionPlus), Virtua Cop (non of which are by Nintendo... hmmm...)

Well based on last years performance and the apparent height of their 'bar' we should expect something bordering on ok possibly poor. Anything would be an improvement on last year.

I don't have high hopes. Nintedos new strategi regarding announcements for new games seems to be that they only show them 6 to 8 months before they are released. Now if they show us a Zelda, A Mario and two or three other big games, it would mean that they all were going to be released within a rather short timespan. I don't see that happening (again) like with Mario Galaxy and Metroid 3

"Nintendo need to show the best damn Zelda game ever... most awesome F-Zero... ever seen... planet earth... or they will continue... laughed at... by real gamers."

You must have forgotten to use the allowed tags. Surely you meant REAL gamers?
Please explain why, if you are far less numerous than non-real (virtual?) gamers, a massive international business should care about your laughter.

I am obviously a big Nintendo fan but I have to admit after the last couple of E3s this is a bit hard to believe. Not that I am disappointed with what I get to play on the Wii but let's face it, the last shows have been very dire to say the least.

Unless my definition of 'core' is wildly at odds with that of everyone else (which is to say 'core' meaning 'central', 'important', 'essential'), then surely Nintendo's core audience is, in fact, the 40-something housewives, kids and the elderly. The so-called 'casual gamer', in orther words. So lots of things for 'hardcore' gamers is not necessarily on the cards.

Of course, Fils-Aime could be simply truncating 'hardcore' and thereby referring to the fervant gamer crowd with his "wanting to satisfy ... the core fans" comment, rather than the people that are actually making Nintendo an awful lot of money. Because appeasing the rabid, unsatisfiable fanbase is clearly the smart thing for Nintendo to do. Instead of bringing out more things for the people that are making them such a phenominal success.

LOL @Grogmonkey - well put

I *do* love how geeks on internet forums (i.e. us) think that somehow every game should be made for them as their opinion is the only one which matters (While ignoring that they are in the minority)

Just noticed : E3 is 4 days before motionplus gets released.

Therefor it stands to reason a MAJORITY of the games shown will be ones which show off the motion plus.

@Menage: "Did you mean Metroid instead of Turrican?"

new turrican has been rumoured for wii for ages

Yeah, well put Grogmonkey, I don't think

Perhaps the poeple who have being buying Nintendo consoles and games for over a decade actually want their latest investment, the Wii, to have some proper games released and not a barrage of games designed to appeal to your mum, infant children and grandparents.

I'd prefer watching Reggie than the other woman.

Goodfella: sigh children!

I've owned every single Nintendo console (home, handheld and a few Game and Watches) that have been released in the UK. I've been someone who appreciates Nintendo's output in the sphere of video game entertainment for well over two decades. I have also realised (back in the N64 era) that Nintendo doesn't give a shit about me. As someone from the UK, I have seen several franchises pass us by due to a complete lack of localisation on Nintendo's part. Those that are localised are brought to these shores sometimes years after their release in other territories (see Animal Crossing for a fine example). And this is back in the days when they focussed entirely on the 'hardcore' market.

Now they have a new market, that has made them the most successful (and probably profitable) console in history. O (bviously, the PS2 has sold more currently, but those who think it won't surpass that figure are, arguably, crazy). To see Nintendo pass over the entire hardcore maket with the Wii is no shock to me.

And can you blame them? Is there any legitimate reason for Nintendo to court the hardcore audience anymore?

By all means, hope all you want. It could actually happen this time. Personally, I doubt it. From a business standpoint it doesn't make much sense (Nintendo fans have historically been pretty willing to hoover up anything with Nintendo branded on it for years now regardless of their apparant stand towards the 'fanboy market', and that will doubtless continue).

Either way, it's no skin off my nose. If they release great games, I'll buy 'em. If they don't, I have a bunch of other platforms to play games on. Every market evolves now and then. It could be that it's time for Nintendo to focus exclusively on the casual market. And if that's what works for them, more power to them.

So, your entire argument is based on what's best for Nintendo at any cost?

Did you ever stop to think that companies do actually care for their consumers and fanbase and consider their efforts an investment for repeated purchases?

So, Nintendo, who apparently are now basing their buisness strategy on making a fast buck are to be respected?

You know what, fuck you and fuck Nintendo, the world would be better place without you, mark my words.

Goodfella: sigh children!

You know, when you make comments like that it doesn't impress anyone. We all know you're the worlds biggest Nintendo fanatic, it's not cool to be one though.

"You know what, fuck you and fuck Nintendo, the world would be better place without you, mark my words."


Yes you're right.. the world would be a better place with only the games YOU like on the market wouldnt it. While forgetting that not everyone likes the same stuff you do.

Sigh.. Get over yourself.

"You know, when you make comments like that it doesn't impress anyone. We all know you're the worlds biggest Nintendo fanatic, it's not cool to be one though."


Yes.. its "cool" to be you isnt it?

You sad sad pathetic child.

Okay, so which parts of my previous comments about how Nintendo haven't cared about you EVER did you skip reading?

And did I ever say Nintendo didn't care about anyone? No. They don't care about YOU. They care quite a lot about their new market of young, middle age and elderly new gamers.

But of course, you don't count them as a market. Because you're a self-obsessed hardcore gamer that only cares about what's best for him. To Hell with Nintendo's needs! What does it matter if they don't make any money selling you the hardcore games that 30 people in the entire world buy. YOU appreciate it. YOU are happy that you're getting what you want.

In fact, sod it. Let's just stay exactly the same forever. Nintendo can never evolve their business model, and you never have to worry about not getting your 'hardcore' F-Zero fix. Stagnation is the way to go! It's what got us where we are today!

The bottom line is this: everything changes, eventually. Sometimes even video game developers that have been around since the '80s. Hell, Nintendo started off making trading cards and pachinko machines. Now, they are evolving again. You can go with it and embrace it (and heck, maybe even enjoy it), or you can evolve, too. Move on to other platforms, or something. Raging against the internet certainly isn't going to change anything.

PS: I don't think I was being unreasonable with my comments. I feel I had legitimate points. The fact that you responded so violently probably means I hit a nerve. I suspect I have told you the truths you don't want to admit to yourself. Or you're just a douche. One of the two...

Wouldnt it be boring if all 3 consoles were full of the same "hardcore" fps games? What about those of us who dont like fps games - and have played so many of them we're sick of the boring site of them now that they seem only to have different stories to tell them apart.

(replace fps with gta clones and re-read the above sentence for them too)

Why on hell would i chose one machine over the other if all 3 had the exact same style games on them?

Side note: Also interesting to note that one of the 360's best sellers is a "casual" game too.. Fifa is about as casual as they come.