Capcom France: gamers have deserted Wii

By Oli Welsh Published 6 January, 2010

The company's future is on PS3 and 360.

In a frank interview (in French) with Gamekult (via Spong), Antoine Seux, director general of Capcom France, has deplored the poor sales of hardcore games on Wii, saying gamers have turned their backs on the platform. Capcom's future, Seux says, is firmly on Xbox 360 and PS3.

Seux's comments were triggered by a discussion of the low sales of the recent Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles on Wii, compared to healthy sales of Resident Evil 4 and Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles in previous years.

"In absolute terms the figures aren't that bad, but we're not going to lie to ourselves, they're lower than we hoped," Seux said. "After three weeks, we're at a total of 16,000 copies sold. There's clearly a problem with this style of game on the Wii; gamers have obviously moved on to other things. And yet two years ago, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles was a great success on Wii. You can see that customers on this console have turned to much more mass-market stuff. It's disappointing."

Hardcore game sales are collapsing on the Nintendo machine, Seux said, while it takes a huge marketing budget for even mass-market games to make a big impression. "We've noticed that so-called 'gamers' games' sell fewer and fewer copies on the Nintendo console, whether it's MadWord, Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop, The House of the Dead: Overkill... the scores weren't anything special. It's a long way from the 140,000 copies Resident Evil 4 Wii sold at the time. It's obviously a worry.

"What works massively well, and I'm relying on GfK figures here, are very, very mass-market games like Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, New Super Mario Bros. Wii and, to a lesser extent, Just Dance and the Rabbids. These titles are very strongly supported, above all, by huge advertising campaigns."

Capcom still has one big bet on Wii left - Monster Hunter Tri, which "is, moreover, a title that could easily cross over from the gaming world to the mass market" - although once again Seux said that its success would depend very much on how much could be spent on advertising. But gamers, Seux reckoned, have all but deserted the Wii for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, and the handheld market is also failing. Capcom's traditional strength in hardcore action games for home consoles leads it squarely into the arms of Sony and Microsoft, he said.

"Two years ago, there were still gamers on the Wii, Nintendo loyalists who - a priori - have turned their backs on this console in favour of the next generation," he said. "[2009 was] the year of the emergence of the so-called next-generation machines. We feel that Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 took a firm foothold in the market. This isn't necessarily reflected in the sales figures, because the Wii still represents a major portion of sales, but the growth is on those two platforms.

"The DS is in decline for various reasons like market saturation and piracy. The PSP is dying for the same reasons. The Wii is very much a family console with relatively low attach rates. So for us at Capcom, the future is on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360."

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  • wizlon #1 2 years ago

    There is a Capcom France!?

  • gjgjg #2 2 years ago

    for once capcom i agree with (at least 85%) of your statement

  • bleeptest #3 2 years ago

    I just got one for xmas though, they can't give up now!

  • SliderNL #4 2 years ago

    Finally a publisher who understands that most of the gamers don't care about the Wii anymore, with the exception of some titles.

  • ParanoidZombie #5 2 years ago

    News of the year: PR guy speaks the truth. I'm flabbergasted.

  • menage #6 2 years ago

    How much gungames can you play then, seems more like a problem of yet another gungame than another hardcore one.

  • lambtron #7 2 years ago

    I've certainly deserted mine.

  • Santino #8 2 years ago

    maybe if they had realized that the resi light gun shooter sold on the back of resi 4's success they would have made a proper entry to the series that people actually wanted. nobody wanted a sequel to umbrella chronicles they wanted resi 4 type gameplay.

  • Buenos_Estente #9 2 years ago

    Any brand new resident evil games people may be willing to pay for?

    Cant say Im that surprised that "gamers" are on the 360/PS3. I tend to use them to play more "hardcore" games. However still love my wii for the old Nintendo magic and have a bloody good laugh with it when my friends pop over.

  • presh #10 2 years ago

    While I do see what this guy is getting at, all the games he cited as not selling as well as hoped are wii 'revisions' of existing franchises and titles. If this site is anything to go by, serious gamers will own a Wii as well as a more 'gamer' console. So it's no wonder people don't want to by slightly different versions of the same games.

    Wii titles that offer something unique and quality sell fine to serious gamers - he as much says so when he references Resi 4. Make games that are 8/10 or better for any console and we'll buy them...

  • TruWari3r #11 2 years ago

    Everybody I know that owns a wii, has one that's been modded. Isn't a "hardcore" game more likely to be downloaded?

  • JohnnyWashnGo #12 2 years ago

    See, I don't think of lightgun games as appealing to the 'hardcore gamer' demographic, whatever that is. Lightgun games, to me, are pick-up-and-play-for-5-minutes type of games which I would, if forced, categorise as a 'casual' game.

    Games like Tatsunoko, MadWorld, Mario Bros Wii, Muramasa and House of the Dead Overkill are more conventional hardcore type games and, honestly, I don't think the majority of Wii owners are too bothered about any of them.

    Its gonna be interesting to see how well Tatsunoko does over here. I imagine it will tank as there just doesn't seem to be a market for fighting games on the Wii.

  • Machetazo #13 2 years ago

    There were staunch Nintendo players, that held on, but they were undercatered for. What's the point in having a console you hardly switch on. Even the joyously fabled blue light of yore failed to deliver. There was no steady supply of titles, because Nintendo had not learned from its Gamecube mistake, of undervaluing, and underutilizing third party suppport. There was a state of uncertainty, while people hoped for the tipping point, but the spread was too thin to be effective, or sustainable. Other platform holders aren't poorly placed to take advantage of Nintendo's position.

  • trevd72 #14 2 years ago

    the wii is for women, kids and 20 or 30 somethings that did not play games the first time round. its funny listening to none gamers talking about games they played on the wii. they want the barest interaction most of the time.

    they just don't see games the same way as me and I guess you. its not like a gateway drug cos they would never progress to modern warfare of even mario galaxy and zelda, they just want to bowl and play tennis. That is why there is a low attachment rate and the rubbish sells.

    overall the wii is shit and is under my TV gathering dust waiting for mario galaxy 2

  • darkmorgado #15 2 years ago

    How much gungames can you play then, seems more like a problem of yet another gungame than another hardcore one.

    Exactly. I'd also say that people are getting pretty bored with the whole Resident Evil brand on top of that. I mean, how many Resi games can you get on Wii now? Umbrella Chronicles, Darkside Chronicles, Resi 4, REmake, Resi Zero...

    As for lightgun games, there's Ghost Squad, HOTD: Overkill, Dead Space, (arguably) Zelda: Crossbow training, the aforementioned Resi Games...

    If Capcom actually did something interesting and original instead of whoring out old IPs that have lost a lot of hardcore interest in recent years and did something interesting then perhaps they might capture the interest of the hardcore again. As it is, lightgun games as a genre have a very niche appeal in the first place (and am I the only person who actually finds playing lightgun games on the wii incredibly tiring on the arms?). Why don't they give us a good old fashioned RPG or adventure game? Something like Little King's Story, or even a decent Wii fighting game. Just because you can use motion controls doesn't mean you HAVE to, as NSMB: Wii showed.

  • JahB #16 2 years ago

    is the fad finally coming to an end?

  • FooAtari #17 2 years ago

    While I do see what this guy is getting at, all the games he cited as not selling as well as hoped are wii 'revisions' of existing franchises and titles.

    I think this is a fair point. And maybe, people are generally fed up of Resi games? How will did Resi 5 sell on 360 and PS3?

    Still I'm quite surpised to read these kind of comments from a third party developer, even if I do think there is some kind of truth it it.

    I sold my Wii around a year ago as it wasn't getting much use and I have not missed it in the slightest. But then I wouldn't really miss my 360 either if I sold that. If I sold my PS3 I would miss it as a BluRay player and media centre platform, not a games console. Console gaming this gen has totally bored me for the most part, the same tat again and again. I have moved to back to being almost exclusively a PC gamer again as caters more to my tastes.

    Anyway, gonna end what has turned into a bit of a rant!

  • TravisTouchdown #18 2 years ago

    Hold the phone:

    "We've noticed that so-called 'gamers' games' sell fewer and fewer copies on the Nintendo console, whether it's MadWord, Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop, The House of the Dead: Overkill... the scores weren't anything special. It's a long way from the 140,000 copies Resident Evil 4 Wii sold at the time. It's obviously a worry."

    The sales on the cited titles weren't great. But as he says himself, nor were the scores. If a great games comes along, it'll generally do better than an average one. Fair enough if he was referencing a bunch of 90+ rated wonder-games that no one bought, but he isn't - and people seem to have stopped bothering to make them on the Wii, save Nintendo themselves and a couple of notable others (roll on No More Heroes 2).

    Completely agree that marketing's become the primary Wii sales factor, mind you. Nintendo titles sell not just because they're platform-perfect, but becuase they're on telly. All the time. I truly cannot understand why other publishers haven't taken note and at least tried to follow suit.

  • originaljohn #19 2 years ago

    The publisher is to blame. Marketing sells. That's it, how much marketing did capcom use on this resident evil compared to the 5 million unit seller resident evil 5?
    So once again Mr. PR man tells you a load of guff. And if resident evil 4 sold so well, why didn't capcom make another resident evil 4 styled game???

  • Bigglesworth #20 2 years ago

    The Wii simply can't provide 'hardcore' games to the same level as can the 360 or PS3, its just not designed for that. Games that play to the strengths of the Wii, however, consistently spank the sales of games on the other two machines.

    Sony and MS execs may say the Wii isn't really in the same marketplace anymore mostly to make themselves feel better, but to be honest its mostly true.

  • bad09 #21 2 years ago

    "So for us at Capcom, the future is on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360."

    Don't forget PC Capcom!

  • butler` #22 2 years ago

    Don't they pay analysts thousands of pounds for this kind of information before they waste tens of millions developing games no one is going to play?

  • schnide #23 2 years ago

    Can you put Monster Hunter on the 360 and PS3 if it's not a massive success on the Wii then please?

  • spazmo #24 2 years ago

    Zelda and Mario Galaxy are as good as anything i've played on the PS3 so the Wii is plenty capable. But as a huge Nintendo fan even i've lost interest in the Wii and Nintendo's general direction. Owning a Nintendo console for me was always about playing the first party games but now it's narrowed even further to SOME of the first party games.

  • justsomeone #25 2 years ago

    i think we'll be hearing more of this sort of thing. but really, is it so surprising - the wii is a totally different beast from the 360 and PS3. different gen, different customers, different appeal.

    it's fine for the sort of jolly nonsense that most families bought one for, but for the sort of games that people on this site would be predominantly playing, it's not a contender. and that's the audience that capcom, for one, are trying to sell to.

  • Darren #26 2 years ago

    @spazmo - +1

    Those are exactly my own feelings too.

    I've kept my Wii solely for the odd first-party Nintendo game like the next Mario Galaxy and Zelda game but in all honestly I think of the Wii not so much as a must-have games machine these days but more something I'll dig out perhaps twice a year at most to entertain family and friends when they're around.

  • metallicorphan #27 2 years ago

    i could of told him this a year ago,i think a lot of us could of

    i have had all the Nintendo machines and the Wii is the first one i have been disappointed in,the best part of it IMO was the VC,i certainly wont be a day one buyer for the next Nintendo

  • CallousB #28 2 years ago

    Hardcore gamers are more likely to steal/pirate Wii hardcore games sadly...the mass market are the ones you have to target..and to do that you need to advertise.

    As far as Capcom goes..I can only assume they wanted Darkside Chronicles to fail. Compare the multi million pound tv ad campaign for RE5 for the PS3/360...to the 1 banner on Eurogamer campaign for RE Darkside chronicles. Hell.....2 of the stores I went to on launch day never even had Darkside Chronicles in...and the one shop that did only had 2 copies. I doubt 95% of wii owners even knew there was a new RE game released.

    Fact is there are 40 million + Wii owners who never owned a Gamecube and are not Nintendo fanboys..if you can't get them to buy a game..then you only have yourself to blame.

    If you market ..they will come.

    New Super Mario Bros is a "hardcore" gamers game in the traditional sense..and that's up to 9 million sold already.

    Edited by 2 at 06/01/10 @ 11:45

  • UltimateDave_80 #29 2 years ago

    The Wii got me back into console gamning but now the 360 has taken over. My Wii only really gets used for the iplayer channel now. Zelda was great and so was Mario Galaxy but nothing since has caught me at all. Mario Kart could have been great but the lack of voice-chat killed it. Playing with friends involved (international in my case) phonecalls to arrange a game and then further calls to rub your victory in a friends face. The fact is that "Gamers" are looking for either an epic adventure or competitive online play and the wiii doesn't offer either of these things.

  • Daryoon #30 2 years ago

    That the new Mario game is being labelled 'mass market' and not 'a gamers game' makes me weep for the industry as a whole.

  • Johnsters #31 2 years ago

    Hmmm, I got back to playing the Wii (hadn't been turned on in 12 mths) this xmas as the wife and I bought the motion plus with the Wii resort.
    It is still fun and I may go back and play Galaxy (didn't really put any time into it).
    But with MW2 MP, Borderlands, Dead Space, Fallout 3 to finish. And Bioshock 1 and oblivion to start. Let alone GT5, MAG, GOW3 and Darksiders coming out. I suspect it'll be another year when the wii is turned back on.

  • IneptPercy #32 2 years ago

    i can see how this is happening, as much as I like some Wii games they really are losing there touch and I am playing mostly on my PC these days.

    I can also see how the Wii has sold so many, eg I own one and it came out at xmas (talking 2008). Both my parents and my other halfs parents then ended up buying one (both with wii fit too). In my dads case he played wii sports almost everyday for about 10 days and then never bothered again (never touched wii fit). At my other halfs house her mum did play wii fit for about 2 weeks and yet again hasn't been used since.

    As more of a gamer myself I am not going to say my wii gets no use, but it is just the ocasional title which standard aprt and works on the Wii, Another Code R is a good example.

  • Lee_Morris #33 2 years ago

    The last 3rd party game I bought for the Wii was No More Heroes. I'm even gonna re-buy that for the PS3 when it comes out. I' d basically prefer to play all my 'hardcore' games on the with a normal controller and with great grahics and sound. I'll only play the Wii for a party game like Wii sports or Mario Bros with my girlfriend. The Wii is virtually dead to me and I bet alot of people feel the same way as me.

  • TonyHarrison #34 2 years ago

    Hang on a second here, Capcom are complaining about low sales for their games, and they didn't mention Bionic Commando?

    Does that get a free pass because it's on PS3/360?

    Oh wait... it's Capcom France... in other news, Nintendo of El Salvador say that Mario is a dead franchise...

    EDIT: The irony about this comment from Capcom is that they've recently launched MH3 in Japan as a Wii exclusive, and it became one of the best selling home console games in Japan this generation, and is more of a success than any previous MH home console game.
    Edited by 1 at 06/01/10 @ 12:14

  • GamesConnoisseur #35 2 years ago

    Advertising is important but hell, its doesnt influence my intention to purchase RE5 or RE4, and I m sure this is the same for most of you dedicated gamers.

    Wii is limited. Simple as that, the hardware of Wii meant that the games on my 42 1080p screen looks awful most of time compared to X360 or PS3. Much so worse next to PC.

    Low res are FINE only on the portable consoles and also the processing grunts are necessary, so when the gamers SEE games such as Batman, BioShock, Bayonetta being available on other consoles but not Wii. WHAT gamers would choose to ignore those and be loyal to Wii?!

    There are some good games but only a darned handful. Most of us knows this and after a long while of status quo then we know nothing will change and chose our preferred platform on that basis. Wii only get to be switched on for exclusives that are wonderfully good to play. World of Goo is one, and I beileve Nintendo knows that they have lost the 'hardcore' gamers and instead being dangerously cornered onto the casual quick-but-short-attention-span players with a very low games attach rates.

    Nintendo games does reasonably well on Wii but what about the reputable third parties? So far we see mostly cheap shovelware games.

    We ll see the repeat of previous two gens problems but from a position of strength!

  • drumbaby #36 2 years ago

    Cappers, stop being stubborn and just release Monster Hunter 3 on a grown up console.

  • Eraser #37 2 years ago

    Maybe Capcom should start thinking of creating Wii games that people want to play and that are of a decent quality. Darkside Chronicles really isn't that good.

  • JahB #38 2 years ago

    Cappers, stop being stubborn and just release Monster Hunter 3 on a grown up console.

    this +100. i don't understand how they can't see all the $$$ they'd make from that; the only reason why MH doesn't do well in europe/US is because it's hard to find somebody to play ad-hoc with on a PSP. put that game on a home console with XBL/PSN online options, and the stocks will rise by 5%.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #39 2 years ago

    The problem is that the games cited aren't necessarily all that good - or offer something new. When I look at the mature/hardcore games on the 360 for example they all offer something. Condemed, Dead Space, Dead Rising, GTA or Gears of War offered something new. The mature/hardcore titles on the Wii offer blood, with a few notable exceptions of course. I don't know why the developers/publishers think that blood is all it takes. If you take a look at the big selling games on the 360 then you'll find they do have their swearing and they do have their violence but they also have unique gameplay or at least improve quite a bit on a well established formula.

  • RESIDENT_nEVILe #40 2 years ago

    My Wii is haunted :(

  • Evolution #41 2 years ago

    I haven't deserted it, and somehow I still find games to buy.

    Capcom have some nerve to complain when they release an ugly port (Dead Rising), a port of RE 0, 1 and 4, a port of Okami, and 2 lightgun games. I bought the first Chronicles game, but seeing as I own Hotd and Dead Space as well, I think I'm kinda shootered out. I might pick it up in a few months, but no way in hell will I do it while it is at the current price.

    The only bright spot in their Wii portfolio is Zack & Wiki, which ended up being another Okami alas.

  • miiiguel #42 2 years ago

    I think this is a fair point. And maybe, people are generally fed up of Resi games? How will did Resi 5 sell on 360 and PS3?

    A lot. It sold 5 milions ltd, and it was one of the best selling Capcom title ever.
    http://en .wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Ev...

  • miiiguel #43 2 years ago

    Hardcore gamers are more likely to steal/pirate Wii hardcore games sadly
    What does "hardcore gamers" mean? Because if it means ppl who like video-games I doubt they're the ones who pirating. Pirates I know play the games for half an hour then go back to steal some more and never buy games because they're not worth the money, they just toys, "lol". Is that the meaning of "hardcore gamers" ?

  • Bulbatron #44 2 years ago

    I have to admit, I have little or no interest in buying games for the Wii. Mainly because I just don't like the control system. I was rubbish at Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles so I won't repeat the mistake with Darkside Chronicles, though I hate missing out on parts of the story as a result.

    The only other game I had any interest in was Silent Hill - Shattered Memories, but I'll probably just grab the PlayStation 2 version.

    If my GameCube hadn't been destroyed, I wouldn't have even bothered with the Wii. I would have made do with the PlayStation 2 version of Resident Evil 4.

  • muscleblade #45 2 years ago

    @miiiguel

    Damn - you just beat me to it.
    The sales was very well deserved too. One of the best action games in 2009. My GOTY second place actually only beaten by Batman AA.

  • muscleblade #46 2 years ago

    "Hardcore gamers are more likely to steal/pirate Wii hardcore games sadly "

    Sounds more like Softcore criminals to me.

  • Bulbatron #47 2 years ago

    How about you release Resident Evil REmake on the Xbox 360 then, Capcom. The best game in the series and you can only buy it on bloody Nintendo machines. :-(

  • makeamazing #48 2 years ago

    When i had the wii on its own when it first came out, I went out and purchased games for it, but when i then got the PS3 and then Xbox, I found that if i wanted to play a indepth game, i had the choice of it being with great graphics and features, or unfortunately with the wii cut down.

    Ive only purchase a few games for it in the last few years and they have been games for the kids (but they play the PS3 more).

    I think if your a Nintendo game fan, e.g you love stuff like Mario/Zelda, you are probably loving the wii, but for just gamers, many imho (especially those with a PS3/Xbox) would rather get the game in Hd than not. That is the problem... If I want to play a dead space game, I would rather play DS on the PS3, I dont want to get a cut down game on the Wii...

    The HD Wii will certainly help, but i have to think they are going to then run into the same issues that the PS3/Xbox had in the early years of this generation, expensive development longer dev times... and with many 3rd parties not seeing good returns on a game, I cant see a HD wii helping.

  • cheekyjay #49 2 years ago

    I tend to agree with most of his statement, but might the low sales of the game have something to do with the genre in which it sits. Zombie / horror shooters on Wii were something of a novelty when Umbrella Chronicles came out, now there's loads of them, even within the niche on-rails sub-genre. That and the fact that the novelty of the 'zapper' as an exciting new peripheral has worn off.

  • malexous #50 2 years ago

    "relatively low attach rates"

    Point me to some evidence, please.
    Edited by 1 at 06/01/10 @ 14:15

  • TonyHarrison #51 2 years ago

    "with the vast majority of its games and graphics being below sonys ps2 standard"

    That would be nothing to do with Nintendo, Twilight Princess was developed with the GC in mind and it comfortably looks better than every PS2 game ever released, and that's without mentioning the games Nintendo made for the Wii itself.

    If you want to blame someone for sub-PS2 level graphics, blame those developers responsible for them, none of whom are Nintendo employees...

  • FenderMaster #52 2 years ago

    I partially agree with Capcom, hardcore games sell better (and play better) on 360/PS3 than Wii, but as far as Wii titles are confirmed, it doesn't help that their Wii games are either very niche: Madworld (black and white beat em up) RE Darkside Chronicles (a rail shooter), HotD Overkill (another rail shooter), are inferior ports of better 360/PS3 titles (Chop Til You Drop), or mediocre games that gamers knew were'nt worth the money (The Conduit)...

    And if they think Monster Hunter Tri is gonna be different, they're idiots, since when has MonsterHunter ever sold big i the west? if the series doesn't do well over here, then it won't just be because it's on the Wii

    regardless, I can't say I'm sad about this, the Wii has been a huge disappontment, with one of the thinnest release shedules of good games... of a major console ever

  • Badassbab #53 2 years ago

    This is what many of us have been saying for years. Wii is a family oriented console for the casual mass market who treat it like they treat boardgames. Once the impact and novelty has worn off it goes into the loft or packed neatly away in some cupboard. It comes out time to time like Monopoly. That or your a Nintendo fan who cannot live without Mario and Zelda.

  • FogHeart #54 2 years ago

    Dead Space was released for PC, 360 and PS3. I really wanted to play it using the same control scheme as Resi 4 for the Wii.

    "We can't do that. Would you like a light gun game instead?"

    Resident Evil 5 was released for PC, 360 and PS3. I really wanted to play it using the same control scheme as Resi 4 for the Wii.

    "We can't do that. Would you like a light gun game instead? On top of the Resi light gun game you already own?"

    In both cases: Yes, yes you bloody can, don't lie. If COD: MW can be made for the Wii as Reflex, then so can lots of other games. I'm currently playing Borderlands (and loving the game and being irritated by twin-sticking, which is my wont for much of my time on the PS3 so far). I don't see for the life of me why the single player game at least isn't possible on the Wii.

    It's not that I abandoned the Wii..it's that the devs aren't making the games I want to play.
    Edited by 1 at 06/01/10 @ 16:44

  • Senate #55 2 years ago

    Yeah but Mad world wasn't that good - got old very quickly and the original umbrella chronicles had long dithering levels so i would'nt get the second one for that. I suppose it doesn't help that Nintendo appear to take the view with their own games that 'we shall only do what we need to and no more,' their stuff lacking freshness though the quality is still there.

    FenderMaster
    regardless, I can't say I'm sad about this, the Wii has been a huge disappontment, with one of the thinnest release shedules of good games... of a major console ever

    this i also agree with, I mean i thought Mario Galaxy 2 would be out sooner than its gonna be. I dont mind young kids playing games at all but even the kids are getting shafted with low quality tat.

  • JahB #56 2 years ago

    @FogHeart

    you'll get your wish. in case you haven't played RE5 yet, sony's wand thing (whatever it will be called) will support the new edition. Dead Space 2 isn't far off either, and I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to apply the same principle there.

    the problem with the wii is, the games that you want don't sell on that console. I applaud treyarch for what they achieved with MW:Reflex, but given the relatively low sales numbers, I don't think we'll see many of these conversions.

  • Ced_Flanders #57 2 years ago

    Ca alors! Le Resident Evil 4 sold lots more parce que c'est un much better game than the pile of merde that those other resident evil games were. Parbleu!

  • Quixz #58 2 years ago

    Down with the WII!

  • cerebralbored #59 2 years ago

    "Seux's comments were triggered by a discussion of the low sales of the recent Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles on Wii, compared to healthy sales of Resident Evil 4 and Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles in previous years."

    It's interesting to note that Nintendo helped to distribute both Resident Evil 4 and Umbrella Chronicles in the UK, whereas Capcom did it themselves for Darkside Chronicles. Though I can't say whether Darkside Chronicles being distributed by Nintendo would have helped sales though.

  • Incarta #60 2 years ago

    A story about an interview with Capcom france... by SPONG!?

    Eurogamer, you are above any and all the shit that appears on that website. Or at least, I thought you were...

  • hy4000uk #61 2 years ago

    The DS (best selling system in Europe) is "in decline"

    Gamers have deserted the Wii because a shitty lightgun game rehash didn't sell

    stupid french cunt. it's a wonder he still has a job

  • Hexagon #62 2 years ago

    Maybe they should have made Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles a better game, not an on-rails shooter, and perhaps advertised it a bit? Just a thought, Capcom. ;-)

  • sega #63 2 years ago

    Erm I think the reason for low sales is it's a very crouded genre on the Wii. Let's have a look at what we have shall we?

    The Umbrella Chronicles - on rails zombie shooter.
    The House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return - two on rails zombie shooters in one package.
    The House of the Dead Overkill - on rails zombie shooter.
    The Darkside Chronicles - yet another bloody on rails zombie shooter!

    All of those are great examples of the genre - every single one of them is considered to be a great game. But does anyone need that many great zombie light gun games? One will suffice for most people and Darkside Chronicles came too late - everyone has already bought one of the others.

  • smelly #64 2 years ago

    Well if 3rd parties actually made soemthing half worth having for the wii - i'm sure those games would've sold.

    But they didnt, they made shitty shovelware.. and then moan that it's somehow the consoles fault those shitty games didnt sell!

    This isnt rocket science is it? Some of us own a wii as we're bored of playing the same old same old shit that always appears on the other consoles - but the 3rd party devs cant get their heads around this and instead just give us a load of party game tat. Although that said, this is capcom - and they did make the excellent silent hill wii game.. And no-one seems to be buying it... But then, where's the marketing for it?!? Let me guess, them not marketing it at all is the consoles fault too!

    Edited by 2 at 06/01/10 @ 20:20

  • K-Project #65 2 years ago

    It's not like the lightgun genre is especially appealing anyway at the best of times. It's just glorified arcade shooting. On the Wii. On a basic, business level, I can't imagine very many people being interested in that. I bought Overkill, and wouldn't want any more beyond that. At best things like Dead Space Extraction and Resident Evil whatever Chronicles just feel like a sop to Wii owners. "We couldn't be bothered to do the game justice on the Wii, so here's a taster of what the proper game is like - via the medium of an on-rails shooter"!

    Does no-one in development think " What are we offering to the player here?" "Why should people buy this."

    I dunno about losing faith in the Wii, but I've lost faith in the games industry altogether.
    Edited by 1 at 06/01/10 @ 20:22

  • smelly #66 2 years ago

    @sega : You missed out DeadSpace Wii - another on rails zombie shooter!

    (also note that none of these games had any real marketing either)


    .. And then the publishers moan these games dont sell and blame it on the platform!!! The mind truely boggles at the dumbness on display here!

  • sega #67 2 years ago

    OK then with DeadSpace Wii too (I'd not even heard of that one) we have six on rails zombie shooters on the Wii to choose from. That's ridiculous!

    Anyway it has nothing to do with hardcore gamers not buying Wii games. I'm an hardcore gamer and I only own a Wii (well I do use a PC for high end gaming too - but just one console). I find it insulting that they categorise all Wii owners in the same way. The problem is simply this - Darkside Chronicles isn't what we want. We have so many similar games on the Wii already so our money is going elsewhere. Give us a Resident Evil 5 with Resident Evil 4 Wii control, Super Street Fighter 4 and, maybe, something completely new too that pushes the console to its limits.

    I'm betting when Capcom release some proper games like Monster Hunter 3 and Tatsunoko Vs Capcom they'll have a very different sales strory to report.

    By the way Capcom, Darkside Chronicles did have some lovely graphics - put them into a proper game and you can dominate Wii sales.

  • My1stLoveJak #68 2 years ago

    Capcom, give me Megaman 10 and I'll buy it. I bought RE4Wii, I'll buy Shattered Memories, but, dang, there is zombie overload in the games industry, right now. It's like Vampires in the movie industry! Too much...if I buy RE5, you should be happy with that. Give it a rest and give us something that hasn't been shoved down our throats, like Monster Hunter...or how about Bionic Commando on Wii? Is the original on VC? Rearmed can't be that hard to make for Wii owners.

    I bought Zak and Wiki, by the way. How 'bout a sequel to that? People would eat it up. Just lay off Resident Evil for a while, please, and try supporting some other IP the same way you love RE. I can see dollar signs already.

  • figaro7 #69 2 years ago

    Really not sure what to make of this, when a developer pumps out games such as dead rising wiimake, spyborgs, res evil rail shooters and re4 wiimake and there only good original game was zak and wiki, they blame the wii, how about blaming yourselves for not releasing any mainstream original ip to the wii audience. In the meantime my 360 gets street fighter 4, dead rising, lost planet, re5, etc. Capcom, looking for excuses sinse 2005! and still going!

  • madjim #70 2 years ago

    The developers' excuses are really bullshit. The real problem is not Wii's power but the fact that they are not making quality exclusives. Having all 3 consoles, I don't want a multi-platform game, because when the specs comparison comes, I will definitely go for the HD. I want smart exclusives like Shattered Memories (though this goes to the PS2 too) that will have some Wii controller novelties. These excuses that Wii can't run complex games are totally funny. Since PS2 could run FFX and FFXII, Wii should run them too, and easier. They simply do not care enough.

  • smelly #71 2 years ago

    "It's not like the lightgun genre is especially appealing anyway at the best of times. It's just glorified arcade shooting"


    You see i feel the same way.. but also about fps games!

  • N.A.T.O #72 2 years ago

    I've deserted PS3 and 360 for the Saturn and Megadrive.

  • ongjg #73 2 years ago

    Sorry capcom, but 3rd party devs aren't making hardcore games for the wii, and then the rehashes/most hardcore games are doing badly, then they use this as an excuse to desert the console. Chicken and egg: they don't want to make 'hardcore games' because the ones they have made haven't sold well, but then if they were different and innovative (the kind of game you would have expected for the wii's different and innovative controls) and some decent marketing, it might have sold better. But they aren't going to commit cos their past efforts have somewhat failed.

    If they just learned to use the controls in a game well then they wouldn't make endless on-the-rails shooters, and some decent 'hardcore games'. 4 res evils on one console is too much. How much do you think 4 copies of similar games in the same franchise are going to sell? Oh and graphics whores who want something that looks nice over gameplay are missing the point of the wii, but then again nintendo can't use the 'gameplay over graphics' idea as an excuse for being lazy.

  • IneptPercy #74 2 years ago

    "I've deserted PS3 and 360 for the Saturn and Megadrive. "

    No Dreamcast love? the Dreamcast 2 is due any time now to save humanity!

  • Razorus #75 2 years ago

    The frog speaks the truth, unfortunately.
    Also, I don't see Monster Hunter Tri selling well (in the UK at least).
    I got Muramasa two days ago, and it absolutely rocks, and New Super Mario Bros has been the most fun I've had in a co-op game in a long time. The Wii CAN do great games occasionally but it boils down to the sales and the good stuff isn't cutting it. Too many mums are buying random 3rd party fitness games!

  • Ryze #76 2 years ago

    Hey - the failed Manhunt launch, lack of F-Zero, and no GTA San Andreas Stories Wii/PSP have all contributed to this.

    Things could have been different, but back in 2006-7 the situation was a running joke, and it didn't get better. I had, and have no reason to buy a Wii, apart from for my daughter or Mum.

    I'd enjoy it, but I'd enjoy £300 worth of 360 & PS3 games, and Blu-Rays much, much more than paying £50 for a second Wiimote, nunchuck and WiiMotion Plus.

    Sorry - but from a hardcasual perspective - FUCK 'EM. For the second generation in a row - I'm not important to Nintendo.

    Their loss.

    Saying that - I congratulate them for widening the market this gen. If only they'd have remembered us lot while they were doing it.

    I'm off to watch Heroes 4/14 on my PS3...

  • smelly #77 2 years ago

    @Ryze :
    "Sorry - but from a hardcasual perspective"... Nintendo develops more "hardcore" games each year than msoft does...

  • Ryze #78 2 years ago

    ^ I don't really debate things with you - as you're a Nintendo fanboy cockhead.

    Cheers anyway.