PC version of Alan Wake officially binned

By Robert Purchese Published 12 February, 2010

Platform doesn't match game content.

The PC version of Alan Wake is officially no more.

A spokesperson for Microsoft offered Strategy Informer this statement:

"Some games are more suited for the intimacy of the PC, and others are best played from the couch in front of a larger TV screen. We ultimately realised that the most compelling way to experience Alan Wake was on the Xbox 360 platform, so we focused on making it an Xbox 360 exclusive.

"Both Microsoft and Remedy have long histories in PC game development. This decision was about matching this specific game to the right platform."

A question-mark has hung over Alan Wake on PC since Remedy publicly refocused its efforts on the Xbox 360 SKU last July.

That work appears to have paid off, as last night Microsoft announced a 21st May release date for Alan Wake on Xbox 360.

We'll bring you our thoughts of the long-awaited Xbox 360 exclusive from X10 very soon.

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  • Krusty #1 2 years ago

    Cocks

  • cianchristopher #2 2 years ago

    "PC gaming is dying"

    Again.

  • chalkyQUAKER #3 2 years ago

    Bollocks, is this the best they can come up with?

  • TitusCrow #4 2 years ago

    wow don't know what to say..

  • andywilkie35 #5 2 years ago

    BUT I SPENT £2000 ON A COMPUTER TO PLAY THIS GAME

    Now I'll just have to settle for the superior version on my cheaper console, unbelievable.

  • VicViper #6 2 years ago

    so no dedicated servers then?

  • vegard #7 2 years ago

    i'm not surprised. after all, they would have a hard time selling DLC on PC!

  • darleysam #8 2 years ago

    This is a move that I forsee drawing absolutely no complaints or angry, fevered teeth-gnashing.

    Nope.
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 14:52

  • DoctorZoidberg #9 2 years ago

    It's their choice to make, no point getting wound up about it. I personally can't wait to get my mits on in.

  • vegard #10 2 years ago

    "make the 360 look like it actually has some games"

    this has been bothering me too, where are the games!?!?

  • Goffee #11 2 years ago

    Cough #bullshit# cough

  • chudders #12 2 years ago

    Judging by the games somewhat slow development history I'd say that they've gone 'deadline' on the devs and something had to go.

    Yes, I am a PC gamer and no, I'm not bothered by this announcement.

  • Cylinder #13 2 years ago

    What a pathetic reason. Here's hoping for a release nine months down the line...

  • VicViper #14 2 years ago

    @darleysam

    On that note, I know that this has been on horror/suspence game fans radars but was this really a huge release on the PC? With the like of Cryostaysis etc the PC has some pretty brillant games like this already, the third person action does seem more consolely than PC too. Honestly curious.

  • ChthonicEcho #15 2 years ago

    As if Microsoft's position as the publisher wasn't an indication of this.

    Makes no sense. Alan Wake was built from the ground up to be a PC title. They've spent years refining the engine to make use of the latest PC hardware has to offer. And now it's all blur, bloom and shotgun action, with PC version canned.

  • Murton #16 2 years ago

    Call me cynical but I can't help but think that this is more to do with what MS wanted than what Remedy is capable of. There is absolutely no technical reason not to do a port as the APIs are so similar and the idea that the game "is better suited to being played on the couch with a larger TV screen" is just a cop out as there's nothing really stopping PC users from doing that if they so wish.

    I long for the day where games publishers don't treat consumers like idiots and just talk straight, doubt it'll happen any time soon though.

  • telboy007 #17 2 years ago

    Probably don't have the money or time to focus on the PC version which would have higer res assets, etc. Shame though. In basic terms, if it works on the 360 it works on the PC. Surely?

  • SidSinister #18 2 years ago

    Not that surprising, see as Microsoft as not published a pc game since Gears of War in November 2007.

  • JahB #19 2 years ago

    you can quite easily connect a PC or laptop to a big screen tv and play it on the sofa.

    but who does this? yes, it's possible, but i have yet to meet anybody that actually bothers to do this.

    why would you spend a shitload of money on a computer to then hook it up to your tv and connect a gamepad when you can get a device that does the exact same, without all the hassle, for a fraction of the price?

  • bad09 #20 2 years ago

    Shame about the game but I'll live. I'm more upset about the lack of understanding of modern PCs from this developer....and a couple of others.

  • Segnit #21 2 years ago

    Very very disappointing despite having a 360 :(

  • Dizzy #22 2 years ago

    >so no dedicated servers then?

    Hu? There is no multiplayer.

  • bluem4gic #23 2 years ago

    I won't be buying this. I am sure it won't do as well as expected. You will see how quickly they will turn round and do a PC SKU

  • Shakey_Jake33 #24 2 years ago

    @JahB - Different experiences I guess, I know loads who do this. I use a gaming laptop which gives me portability, but I hook it up to my HDTV when I go home and essentially use it like a console. I confess that I require a keyboard/mouse to play an FPS, but I get around that in my own way.

    The reality is that their reasoning would have held up about 5 years ago, but isn't really convincing now that there's more of a crossover between PC and HDTV connectivity. I guess they felt this explanation would go down better with people, but they've left themselves a bit open here.

  • PuppyFiddler #25 2 years ago

    lol, so Alan Wake couldn't be enjoyed on the PC...funniest shit I've heard in ages. So games like STALKER, FEAR, Thief, Resident Evil 4/, Bioshock, Penumbra Overture, Cryostasis all games with a dark-horror theme don't work on PC?

    Microsoft are desperate for exclusives, it's official.

  • Machetazo #26 2 years ago

    @chthonic: I saw the new trailer, and it seemed to have altered, compared to what was originally pitched, and promoted in the media. Unimpressed and surprised in no good way (and a little cynical of the real feedback and impact of light as weapon, as shown), these were my reactions to the trailer.

  • JahB #27 2 years ago

    @Shakey_Jake

    I see your point, and i'm not disputing it's valid, but do you honestly think there's enough gamers that use a similar setup to warrant a PC port? it may be easy to port from 360 to PC, but it certainly isn't cheap. that said, maybe they should have just come out and said "pc release does not make us enough $$$". but i'm not so sure that would have gone down better with the pc community either

  • JHuxley #28 2 years ago

    Not that surprising, see as Microsoft as not published a pc game since Gears of War in November 2007.

    What a ridiculous state of affairs.

    Very very disappointing despite having a 360 :(

    Exactly. I love my consoles and I love my PC, the option to play on either/or would be nice.

  • Miths #29 2 years ago

    Sounds more like an excuse for not delaying it another few years.

  • mingster #30 2 years ago

    JAhB i use my Pc hooked up to my TV.
    It runs XBMC and runs using a wireless xbox 360 control and remote control.
    Its the nuts and is quiter than an Xbox it also has bluray.

  • jambo74 #31 2 years ago

    All you PC pirates with your torrents - you caused this....
    Roo the day, hu?

  • Shakey_Jake33 #32 2 years ago

    @JahB - I wouldn't really blame a publisher/developer for overlooking the PC as a target platform - with so many platforms on the market at the moment, they have to make decisions about where they want the focus their resources. In this case though, the PC was the lead development platform for the entire development cycle (possibly before a 360 version was even planned).

    It's not unrealistic to suggest that thye might just feel that it's not worth the publishing expenses. However, I suspect there is truth to the suggestion that Microsoft, being the publisher, might be behind this. People are being rated down for suggesting this, but it's not the first Microsoft-published game to suffer this fate.

  • Quak #33 2 years ago

    This is unfortunate. Unlike PS3 cancellations - which are normally when a developer isn't competent enough to get a decent frame-rate - the cancellation on PC is obviously for more strategic reasons i.e. more 360 sales.

    While I'm not that fussed (I enjoy gaming on ALL formats), I do wonder what that pro-PC arsehole Bloodkult will say to this. Not that I'll ever read whatever bullshit he comes up with, what with him being on ignore and all. :)

    /waves at Bloodkult

  • jag10 #34 2 years ago

    what difference is a big SDTV going to make lol. take it he hasn't spoken to epic games who revealed at least half or more people are still using SD tvs. they just what to say the famous words 'only on'.

  • el_pollo_diablo #35 2 years ago

    This is fairly illustrative of Microsoft's ungratefulness towards the people who've kept them in business for the past 20 years if you ask me. I don't have a PC myself any more but if I did, I'd be mightily fucked off I suspect.

  • JahB #36 2 years ago

    @Shakey_Jake - I was unaware the PC was lead platform (highly uncommon these days), but to suggest Microsoft is blocking a PC release may be a bit far out - usually publishers refuse to let platform holders cut off their revenue streams. But then again, microsoft has a track record of using their deep pockets to secure exclusives...

    and why the hell am i getting negged for level-headed discussion?

  • Quak #37 2 years ago

    why would you spend a shitload of money on a computer to then hook it up to your tv and connect a gamepad when you can get a device that does the exact same, without all the hassle, for a fraction of the price?

    I agree wholeheartedly, mate. While it's obviously possible, it's not as convenient and it's not what people do in the real world. I got into quite an argument about this on the Darwinia+ review comments board and a few people voted me down, so watch yourself - they don't like it up them. It's true though whether they like it or not.

    Once again - for the sake of the morons - I game on all major platforms (and even some obscure ones), including PC, so no I am not a PC hater - I'm just realistic.

  • Eraysor #38 2 years ago

    Cataclysmic fail; they've lost at least one sale out of this. Unfortunately some people don't have a 360 but do have a PC, and considering both Max Payne 1 and 2 were released on PC, this is a bad move.

  • Quak #39 2 years ago

    To play devil's advocate for a second (it may not be what I believe but I'm just throwing it out there, so don't instantly vote me down just for the sake of it), but if it's true that the PC was the lead platform at the beginning (and therefore that the game was designed for PC), wasn't there a news item a few weeks/months back stating that the game had been totally redesigned and taken in a new direction? Again, if that's the case (lots of ifs here) then perhaps the game - having once been designed for PC - was no longer so?

    I'm much more in favour of the "we want more 360 exclusives for more 360 $ales!" reason, but it is technically possible for the given reason to be true - however unlikely. ;)

  • gjgjg #40 2 years ago

    A Wake will sell then the PC version will reappear... at least for the sequel

  • bing #41 2 years ago

    @ Quak 'This is unfortunate. Unlike PS3 cancellations - which are normally when a developer isn't competent enough to get a decent frame-rate - the cancellation on PC is obviously for more strategic reasons i.e. more 360 sales'

    I'm pretty sure this isnt the case and the consipracy theories of MS being desperate for sales/needing exclusives is pretty pathetic and rings of fanboy trolling. With the game being delayed for so long, the developer most likely had to get it out the door ASAP and it would'nt be posible to do this while developing it on two platforms.

  • Murton #42 2 years ago

    considering both Max Payne 1 and 2 were released on PC, this is a bad move.

    They were also both released on the PS2 so perhaps it shouldn't be exclusive at all? Sorry, but the past form of the developer bears no relevance to what platforms their current games should released on, that's down to the developer and publisher to agree on. It's disappointing that MS appear to have canned the PC version so as to have a 360 exclusive to compete with Heavy Rain but Remedy should have seen something like that as a possibility when they accepted MS' bid to act as publisher.

    We can only hope that Remedy are as disappointed by this move as their fans are, perhaps it will make them (and others) think again when it comes to agreeing a publishing deal.

  • EvilBob_leeds #43 2 years ago

    What a load of bollocks. For shame.

  • Quak #44 2 years ago

    @bing

    But with both architectures being so similar, surely the effort required in getting the game out for both platforms would easily have been worth the reward of having sales on two formats as opposed to one? I'm not sure I'm convinced that having to work a few extra weeks explains away such a decision.

    If it WAS down to deadlines, why not simply stagger the release? Bioshock came out a year later on PS3 and still sold well. Nah, I'm not convinced that deadlines are to blame.

  • MrCarrot #45 2 years ago

    It's Halo all over again. :(

  • jebus #46 2 years ago

    Well clearly piracy is also an major issue - it hurts profit. Probably not the only issue admitedly - XBox exclusive will have somehting to do with it as well for sure.
    You've only got yourselves to blame really (those that download I mean). Why would a developer spend a considerable sum of money on a PC version when the console version returns a larger profit and is pirated less?
    It's not rocket science.

    I only wish that the official line would say that. It *might* make the idiots who do it less inclined to do so.

  • bad09 #47 2 years ago

    "But with both architectures being so similar, surely the effort required in getting the game out for both platforms would easily have been worth the reward of having sales on two formats as opposed to one? "

    Not when Sony are looking so strong on exclusive titles. MS don't compete against PC but they sure do with PS3, a little cut in profit on Wake to go "ner ner ner ner ner we got Alan Wake and you haven't!" to Sony probably seems worth it.

  • kinky_mong #48 2 years ago

    "Some games are more suited for playing in your parent's basement surrounded by crusty tissues and empty Doritos' packets, and others are best played from the couch in front of a larger TV screen."

    And that's the truth.

  • Byzanite #49 2 years ago

    Unfortunately I think the console market is stronger than the PC market (im very much a PC gamer too), at the moment, especially for a game like Alan Wake, and it would be a sound business move to release to console only if they were struggling to meet targets/deadlines.
    Who knows.. Maybe Alan Wake would've remained vaporware if they continued to develop for PC.

    Not sure if I will buy it though.

  • IneptPercy #50 2 years ago

    "why would you spend a shitload of money on a computer to then hook it up to your tv and connect a gamepad when you can get a device that does the exact same, without all the hassle, for a fraction of the price? "

    I do, and I can sum it up with 4 numbers and a letter... 1080p

    For me they have just lost a sale, 720p with probably screen tearing just doesn't work for me anymore.

    Why not just delay the release, it seemed to work for Resi 5.

  • ignatiusjreilly #51 2 years ago

    Some games are more suited for playing in your parent's basement

    I don't think I know anyone who even has a basement, they aren't very common in England. Which makes your insult even more moronic. Clearly it's just something you read on another forum and liked the sound of.

    why would you spend a shitload of money on a computer to then hook it up to your tv

    Apart from the fact that many people have it hooked to a monitor and a TV at the same time, people might do this so they have movies, mp3s, internet radio, photos, iPlayer etc. in the living room. I would have thought the benefits are obvious.
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 15:59

  • Quak #52 2 years ago

    @bad09 - well yeah exactly, that's what I said. :p

    While it obviously hurts the consumer, put yourself in their position for a second. You have a console on the market and you have a rival that you want to beat by any means possible. A big game is coming out for PC and your console and you have the power to make it *only* come out on your console. What ya gonna do?

  • paketep #53 2 years ago

    Alan what?

    Oh, yeah, wasn't that the game that forced you to have Vista to play? XD

    Microsoft and Remedy being ridiculously stupid, once again.

  • el_pollo_diablo #54 2 years ago

    @ mickey2010
    I think we probably all gathered that it was about money, sorry, MONEY. But even if it was "purely a business decision" based on "the widespread torrenting of PC games on illegal websites" the fact is that after 4+ years of teasing, in the eyes of many people Microsoft now look like ungrateful arseholes. PC gamers helped to build that platform.

  • EvilBob_leeds #55 2 years ago

    Although I am intriuged to see how many 360 owners, who bitched so vocally over the Ghostbusters scandal, now take the opportunity to stand on your morals, and say "We didn't agree with Sony pulling the rug from under us with Ghostbusters, so now you've pulled the same trick with Alan Wake, we're withholding our business".

    Well go on.....

  • Boomerang #56 2 years ago

    why would you spend a shitload of money on a computer to then hook it up to your tv and connect a gamepad when you can get a device that does the exact same, without all the hassle, for a fraction of the price?

    Because a 360/PS3 can't run Dreamweaver or Photoshop?

  • ignatiusjreilly #57 2 years ago

    @mr_writer

    A PS3 doesn't even have proper Flash in the browser, let alone the thousand of things a computer can do that a console can't and the relatively low res of its display. And despite all that it's not even any cheaper. What possible reason is there to choose it as a media center over a PC, apart from being "easier to set up", which holds no advantage to someone who knows how to work a computer?

    I'm considering a PS3, but is I get one it'll be for the games, as its media functionality doesn't even compare to a Windows PC.
    Edited by 2 at 12/02/10 @ 16:20

  • IneptPercy #58 2 years ago

    "Surely you could just buy a PS3 which can do all that, plus has Play TV (which is easier to set up then a TV tuner on PC) and has a blu-ray drive built in and has exlusive games that will never appear on another console or on PC.... "

    Tv card in a PC just goes and works without messing. My PC can play Blu-ray and HD-DVD and burn blu-rays.

    +1080p gaming, picture and video editing if you wish, a better web browser, satalite tuners if you wish.

    Face it the PC is the best media and gaming machine and it doesn't cost as much as you may think for a good PC.

  • Quak #59 2 years ago

    +1080p gaming, picture and video editing if you wish, a better web browser, satalite tuners if you wish.

    Yet another one who just doesn't get it. Dude, WE KNOW what PCs can do. The people who say "consoles are winning the living room" aren't saying it because they need to be educated in what the PC can do if you have the time/patience/money - they're saying it because it's convenience and simplicity that the masses want. Why the fuck do you think the Wii is owning everything else out there?!

    Face it the PC is the best media and gaming machine and it doesn't cost as much as you may think for a good PC.

    Initial purchase, maybe not. Twice-yearly upgrades to your bottom-of-the-range hardware included? I'm not convinced. It can be cheaper to just buy proper kit in the first place, which takes you above and beyond the cost of a console.

  • dingo75 #60 2 years ago

    Yeah and "Star Wars The Force Unleashed" was too powerful to run on a PC until LucasArts mysteriously figured out to make it work in 2009!

    Well with all the MW2 chavs on Xbox360 this game will tank anyways.

  • BiscuitBase #61 2 years ago

    Let's face it, not having a PC SKU will stop them from losing xbox 360 sales due to people pirating the pc version instead.

  • Postumo #62 2 years ago

    Utterly shit... i have both, xbox and PC... and i sure prefer my PC. My PC is fairly new and can handle everygame at max settings... when i go back to my xbox and play the same game i've seen on my PC, it hurts my eyes.

    I have my console for those arcadey games like Fifa, smackdown, some racing games... but when it comes down to Modern Warfare, Bioshock 2, Mass effect 2... good, i want them at full on my PC. Fuck MS with this decision, everyone knows that Xbox and PC are similar, and for a while xbox games looked better, but time passes, and PC Gamers who have seen the light at full resolution and max setting are not going back to a 360...

    Both PS3 and Xbox have delivered well, but they can't fight again a relatively well equipped PC. There's no reason to bin PC releases like that... Alan Wake was a sure "must buy" for PC, now it's a rent

  • Caimbeul #63 2 years ago

    It is a consipiracy against PC gamers. I always buy the PC version of a game if it superior (which it usually is). The fact that they make at least £10 less on PC titles may have something to do with it....?

    *Edit: MS Just lost my Sale!
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 16:31

  • ignatiusjreilly #64 2 years ago

    Yet another one who just doesn't get it. Dude, WE KNOW what PCs can do.

    Someone asked why anyone would want to hook up their PC to a TV, and he answered. Maybe you don't get it - people keep going on about simplicity and convenience, but they are not the things we are looking for. I don't care what "the masses" want - I am looking for features and quality.
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 16:32

  • bing #65 2 years ago

    @quak

    'But with both architectures being so similar, surely the effort required in getting the game out for both platforms would easily have been worth the reward of having sales on two formats as opposed to one? I'm not sure I'm convinced that having to work a few extra weeks explains away such a decision.'

    The difference in creating a game for 2 platforms regardless of the similiarities between them would not be a few weeks. I just find the fact some people are saying it was canned on PC so MS could claim it was an 'exclusive' laughable. I could go on and give a list of 360 exclusives to prove MS don't need to do this but I'm not going to waste your or my time.

    *typo

    Reasoned point without trolling -7
    'Well, fuck you too then, Remedy' comment +10

    Says it all about the intellect of posters on this site really.
    Edited by 2 at 12/02/10 @ 19:53

  • Haloboy #66 2 years ago

    @ mickey2010

    I think you'd be quite surprised at how many former 360 gamers are now exclusively PC gamers. That ship sails both ways my friend.

  • Kremlik Verified Co-Founder, Crash To Desktop #67 2 years ago

    This isn't new for MS - Halo itself was orginally a pc title but then MS bought it up and delayed it for years until the orginal Xbox turned up - PC gaming isn't 'dead' as 99% of games are built ON PCs, it's not the platform's falut that everything is bought up by the suits to run on a slightly small (and sometimes more cosytly) 'pc'.

    PC gaming will never die until we stop using them, much like any console.

  • mkreku #68 2 years ago

    Well, fuck you too then, Remedy.

  • Quak #69 2 years ago

    @ ignatiusjreilly

    I don't care what "the masses" want - I am looking for features and quality.

    But the problem is that publishers don't care what you want - they make more money from selling to the masses than they do from selling to you.

    You know, there seems to be a stereotype that PC users are more intelligent than console users (or maybe that's just something PC fanboys like to believe - I'm not sure), but the way so many of you consistently fail to understand that publishers don't give a shit about you individually really surprises me.

    If a company can make more money by catering for one group of people over another, they will cater for that group of people. Whether you personally think building a gaming PC by yourself is easy is irrelevant - they couldn't give a fuck - and until they start making more money from PC game sales than console sales, this is how things are going to continue.

  • jag10 #70 2 years ago

    he should of just said:

    we don't need P.C gamers anymore so they can fuck off, thanks for supporting us over the years though.

  • Quak #71 2 years ago

    @bing

    Yeah, you don't have to take my "couple of weeks" literally. I develop software for a living so I know how long it takes, dude. But it's a fact that the return would have made the extra time worth it - if it wasn't then no games publisher would be making PC games.

  • TheApologist #72 2 years ago

    Or:

    "It is Microsoft's strategy not to release PC games because we would prefer people to buy 360's. But I can't say that so instead I am going to treat the nice people who give us money in exchange for games like total idiots.'

    Schmuck.

  • IneptPercy #73 2 years ago

    "Initial purchase, maybe not. Twice-yearly upgrades to your bottom-of-the-range hardware included? I'm not convinced. It can be cheaper to just buy proper kit in the first place, which takes you above and beyond the cost of a console. "

    Another strange thing people seem to get, you DO NOT HAVE TO UPGRADE A PC!!!

    I had a mate who wanted to get 1080p games but was worried about this, as I pointed out to him if it plays games better than the consoles now then it always will, yes 2 years from now you may need to run at high instead of very high but at that point high settings will still look better than the consoles.

    Basically if you build a decent PC now and it does everything you want it to then it will keep doing that forever more, if you decide you want it to do more then go ahead but you are not forced.

    Personally I do quite regular upgrades, this way parts I am taking out still have a decent value so its more small regular costs rather than a new machine.

  • JHuxley #74 2 years ago

    This isn't new for MS - Halo itself was orginally a pc title but then MS bought it up and delayed it for years until the orginal Xbox turned up

    Now they're not even releasing these games a year or two later on PC. They're 360 only.

    It's pretty clear where MS stand with regards to PC gaming :(

  • ignatiusjreilly #75 2 years ago

    You know, there seems to be a stereotype that PC users are more intelligent than console users (or maybe that's just something PC fanboys like to believe - I'm not sure), but the way so many of you consistently fail to understand that publishers don't give a shit about you individually really surprises me.

    I don't know why you are bringing up intelligence, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

    I think if you'd read my posts on here yesterday in the EA thread you would know that I fully understand that publishers do not care about me. In fact I can't find anything in your post that is relevant to anything else I've said. But then maybe I am not intelligent enough to find it :)

  • bing #76 2 years ago

    @ You have a console on the market and you have a rival that you want to beat by any means possible. A big game is coming out for PC and your console and you have the power to make it *only* come out on your console. What ya gonna do?

    Sorry I'm not singling your posts out but I find that a crazy statement. If this was the case would MS have not done this before with Gears, Mass Effect etc. These games not being 'exclusive' don't seem to have done MS or their sales any harm.

    With the long development cycle of Alan Wake and the current financial situation I think it seems more likely that they had to get the game out the door ASAP or go bust. Cutting the PC version was the best way (in their opinion) of doing this.

  • Quak #77 2 years ago

    as I pointed out to him if it plays games better than the consoles now then it always will, yes 2 years from now you may need to run at high instead of very high but at that point high settings will still look better than the consoles.

    Well yeah, that's obvious and goes without saying because consoles are static in their hardware configurations. The problem is that PC games are not static in their hardware requirements. If I bought a 360 and a PC in year 1, in year 5 they would both be the same specification but while 360 games would still be developed for 360 hardware and would still run on a 360, PC games would be developed for hardware that had advanced by 5 years and my PC would no longer be able to run those games - hence an upgrade would be required.

    Personally I do quite regular upgrades

    Of course you do, as do I (roughly £1,200 every 18 months) and we do this because we have to, because your theory of a PC having the same lifespan as a console simply isn't true.

    Edit - hilarious that this post has been marked down already. Why exactly? Is there *anything* here that isn't true? Or is there a PC fanboy out there who dislikes what I'm saying?
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 16:53

  • Quak #78 2 years ago

    Sorry I'm not singling your posts out but I find that a crazy statement. If this was the case would MS have not done this before with Gears, Mass Effect etc. These games not being 'exclusive' don't seem to have done MS or their sales any harm.

    Not at all mate, healthy discussion is great!

    Neither of us know what the sales would have been like had MS made those games exclusive, because we'd need an isolated environment identical in every way to the one in which we live (i.e a parallel universe) to compare figures.

    Maybe MS has decided to try it and see what the results are like. Maybe Sony's improving performance has changed their mind. When Gears and Mass Effect came out Sony was the laughing stock of the industry; now they actually have some decent sales thanks to the price drop, slimmer console, decent games etc. While MS still has a lead overall, it is closing, and perhaps this is enough to convince them to try a new strategy? Who knows.

  • Quak #79 2 years ago

    I don't know why you are bringing up intelligence, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

    Sorry mate, that statement wasn't just down to what you said. A lot of it carried over from the arguments that I found myself in the middle of over on the Darwinia+ review comments board. Some idiots in there who happened to be flying the PC flag just couldn't understand simple economics, and for a second there it looked like you were going to go down the same path. Apologies. :)

  • Monkey_Puncher #80 2 years ago

    Alright nerds, it's Friday, shut the fuck up and have a Crunchie!

  • bing #81 2 years ago

    @Quak

    I wish I knew and then either one of us could do this ':p' to the other! ha ha

  • ronuds #82 2 years ago

    So for years all we've heard is "the 360 doesn't have exclusives because most of its games are on PC - hahaha!!!" And now that MS fixes this we're all pissed off for other reasons?

    The internet is an angry place.

  • Quak #83 2 years ago

    @bing

    ;)

    Dude, it's 4.54pm on Friday afternoon - I'm off! Have a good one!

  • CaptainTrips #84 2 years ago

    Hmm, what would i rather have, Alan Wake as an XBox 360 exclusive, or Starcraft 2 as a PC exclusive...

  • kangarootoo #85 2 years ago

    Why are people taking all of this so personally.

    The PC gaming market is less profitable than it used to be and its also less secure. It is nor surprise that some publishers are pulling out of PC game development (did I not suggest this would happen in the recent DRM threads?).

    It has nothing to do with it that a PC can do higher res, or be connected to a TV, or can be upgraded for "less then you think". NONE of that has anything to do with why Alan Wake for PC got canned.

    Believe me, I'm all for choice. It would be great if this came out for both platforms. I play games almost exclusively on consoles these days, but I begrudge nobody the option to also play them on PC... unless I was in charge of the purse strings at a publisher, and then I would think long and hard about the decision.

    If you play games on PC, you have to embrace a future where this sort of thing happening is a growing risk. Its really that simple. If you can own a good gaming PC AND a range of consoles than all power to you, you have created choices for yourself, which is really all you can do.

    By all means people, be annoyed that this has been canned. But please stop harping on about whether PCs are better than consoles for gaming. Its boring, and irrelevant to the subject at hand (you can bet your life that it never figured directly in this decision for MS or Remedy).

  • Haloboy #86 2 years ago

    In the end it's not even going to end up being the game they first intended and that's all down to the specific platform they have chosen to run with over a platform that has long been ready to greet Alan Wake with open arms. Arms that are now firmly folded might I add. Let me know when MS announce a PC version after the game only sells 45,000 copies and they have to rush a port over ala TFU.

  • ignatiusjreilly #87 2 years ago

    @Quak: OK, no probs :)

    I'm fully aware that consoles are much more profitable than the PC, so I don't blame anyone for concetrating on that, but I'm not a fan of tactics of manipulation that try to make PC gaming less attractive and force me to Xbox. I can't be sure that's what happening here however.

    I'm not really angry, but I'm hugely disappointed because Alan Wake was at the very top of my anticipated games list, and has been ever since I heard it announced. I just hope Remedy didn't crush my dreams just so Microsoft can say "ner ner" to Sony in their incredibly tedious format war.

  • Murton #88 2 years ago

    I don't think it's fair to compare this to Mass Effect as far as 360/PC semi-exclusives go. Bioware is the industry leader in terms of RPGs and therefore isn't as easy to push around as Remedy are, having only two modern games under their belt (Max Payne 1 and 2)

  • frankfurter209 #89 2 years ago

    I understand the complaints, but Remedy and MS couldn't have a stronger platform to stand on after their last game, Max Payne 2, was pirated to hell and back. Releasing a single-player only game on PC and you might as well be releasing it for free. You guys can get as self-righteous as you want, but turning a blind eye to piracy while claiming they "betrayed" their fanbase is laughable.

  • Gaol #90 2 years ago

    "I do quite regular upgrades

    Of course you do, as do I (roughly £1,200 every 18 months) and we do this because we have to, because your theory of a PC having the same lifespan as a console simply isn't true. "

    You do not have to spend anywhere near £1200 every 18 months to have a PC which markedly outperforms consoles; not unless you can't build a machine yourself and buy overpriced Alienware stuff.

  • frankfurter209 #91 2 years ago

    @jag

    "he should of just said:

    we don't need P.C gamers anymore so they can fuck off, thanks for supporting us over the years though. "

    Yeah, thanks guys for pirating millions of copies of Max Payne 2 and cheating us out of the honest pay we deserve. What a great fanbase we have.

  • Haloboy #92 2 years ago

    @ frankfurter209

    Thanks also to you guys for turning all our best original PC based IP's into complete shit, is it any wonder so many out there feel they are forcing us to try before we buy?
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 17:08

  • X3Entente #93 2 years ago

    fuck off, go fuck yourself you coke snorting PR executives. The reason alan wake is cancelled on pc is because you want to nurture it as an xbox360 exclsive title, not just a console exclusive, so that the name "alan wake" can be put along side halo and gears off war. guess sony must have you scared huh with their ressurgent exclusives titles. I bet the pc code exists but is locked away in microshits vaults somewhere, rotting away with many other games u probably raped

  • Collymilad #94 2 years ago

    PC gamers thought this had a hope of coming out?

    Cute.

  • booner #95 2 years ago

    DUKE NUKEM FOREVER?

  • kangarootoo #96 2 years ago

    @Haloboy!

    "is it any wonder so many out there feel they are forcing us to try before we buy?"

    Genuine question, just to iron out any confusion that might exist over the term "try before you buy".


    When you pirate a game, and upon playing it find it is very good, do you always go right out and buy it?

    Is it fair also to assume that if you discover the game isn't worth your money, or if you like it but can't afford to purchase it right away, or indeed don't buy it for any reason whatsoever, you stop playing it and delete it from your PC HDD?

    I am guessing from your post that the answer to both these questions is yes...
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 17:22

  • Haloboy #97 2 years ago

    Did you not read the part where I said 'many out there'? I never stated I was amongst them. I always buy my games legit and was merely emphasizing the twisted logic behind why so many do tend to pirate games rather than buy. But then some PC games are so badly ported that same twisted logic often makes a whole lot of sense.

  • Lunatic4ever #98 2 years ago

    Bullshit
    This is pure betrayal and it will pis!!!s off many people of my kind.
    Seems like they forgot WHO made their MAX PAYNE such a classic...
    They lost a whole lot of sympathy right now.
    Well they've surely seen that Activision got away with MW's mess...
    Its all our fault,we shoudlve kicked Acitivsions ASS for cheating on us.
    Damn cocksuckin industry.

    I do have a xbox,i really wanted to buy that game for pc as my rig is quite powerful.
    Now...i wont buy it at all. SUCK MY DICK REMEDY

  • Haloboy #99 2 years ago

    @ Lunatic4ever

    You wanted Alan Wake PC just so you could benchmark it to hell and back? Perhaps Remedy made the right decision after all.

  • kangarootoo #100 2 years ago

    @Haloboy!

    Well ok then. Tbh, my angst focussed around your suggestion that anyone is "forced" to do anything. Nobody is forced to try before they buy, or forced to pirate, or indeed forced to buy anything.


    "and it will pis!!!s off many people of my kind"

    What, excessively angry people? They are always pissed off, its only a matter of time. I'm not sure it is wholly Remedy's fault.

  • jellyhead #101 2 years ago

    Tyrell, wrong comments page. Heavy Rain is over there ->

    :D

    oh, come on. It was funny.

  • fknetwork #102 2 years ago

    RIP PC gaming, you won't be missed.......

  • Feanor #103 2 years ago

    MS Spokesperson = lying cunt.

  • Dynamize #104 2 years ago

    Oh, that's a bit of a surprise. Bit of a shame but meh, I can live without it.

  • StooMonster #105 2 years ago

    Wasn't Alan Wake supposed to be a testament to DirectX 10 technology? Been so long that perhaps it doesn't show off DirectX 11.

    Why do Microsoft keep pushing new versions of DirectX and thus new hardware from ATI/NVIDIA if they are not interested in PC gaming? Microsoft have a bi-polar basket-case of a strategy for the PC platform, they're worse than Apple's gaming strategy. Sigh.

  • Ryuken #106 2 years ago

    How the Games for Windows department can keep up a big smile with their own company smashing out their windows is a mystery no-one will be able to solve.

    Not really a surprise after MS cancelled/sold two MMOs, made almost only console exclusives, offloaded plenty of successful and promising PC IPs, shut down some great studios including one of the most acclaimed PC RTS companies ever... they just did a poor job at being an actual PC game publisher. Is it because they can't keep tabs on this platform completely like they do on the Xbox360? What a bunch of cowards, they should have embraced the freedom.

  • IneptPercy #107 2 years ago

    " PC games would be developed for hardware that had advanced by 5 years and my PC would no longer be able to run those games - hence an upgrade would be required."


    This is where I disagree, the games will still run but you will be on low settings instead of high.

    "Personally I do quite regular upgrades

    Of course you do, as do I (roughly £1,200 every 18 months) and we do this because we have to, because your theory of a PC having the same lifespan as a console simply isn't true. "

    I think I have every choice, I like you do upgrades as I like to keep games at top settings (but I don't spend anything like you do), but I could stop now and in 5 years it will probably still play games, by all means the low settings then will look like high setting now and if I want more I will have to change things, but you are not forced to.

    Out of interest with that kind of upgrade budget what spec are you running?

  • JHuxley #108 2 years ago

    @frankfurter209

    I understand the complaints, but Remedy and MS couldn't have a stronger platform to stand on after their last game, Max Payne 2, was pirated to hell and back

    So releasing it exclusively for 360 will help sales? Aside from the flawed logic, the 360 isn't exactly a secure platform. They may as well release it exclusively on Pirate Bay :/

  • Ryze #109 2 years ago

    They want more sales than Torrent downloads - therefore - 360 wins.

    What?

  • Quixz #110 2 years ago

    LOl this is why you just can't be a PC only gamer these days.

  • IneptPercy #111 2 years ago

    As much as there is piracy on the 360 its not as easy as the PC so its not done as much.

  • hollowroom #112 2 years ago

    As a PC gamer whose last console was a Dreamcast, I would like to announce that this doesn't bother me at all.

    From the initial teaser trailer to the latest run and gun trailer Alan Wake has gone from a great concept to a watered down Horror survival shooter.

    The bean counters win again..

  • Xeopuppy #113 2 years ago

    Once again PC Gamers are dumped upon from a great height...

    I have my PC plugged into my 40" Samsung 6 Series HDTV and 5.1 Dolby Surround, I play all my games in my armchair, what they are saying is a load of ****ing shit!
    Edited by 3 at 13/02/10 @ 10:08

  • Monkey_Puncher #114 2 years ago

    It is too stupid for us Elite PC players anyway, you dumb console plebs are welcome to it, I'm going back to sucking cheese puffs through a straw while I take down the Alliance in the Worlds of Warcraft!

  • dacicus #115 2 years ago

    I love how everyone talks about PC piracy. But console piracy is on a constant growing. You might want to google for Aliens versus Predator. You will be listed quite a few torrents for...surprise...the exclusive console from Microsoft. So let's leave the bull where it belongs. And if microsoft believes that their "wonderful" XBox 360 is pirating proof, they are delusional. This year I've seen 3 ( yes, you read well, THREE) AAA titles hiting the torrents with a week before launch. The leaked titles before launch are: Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2 and Aliens vs Predator.
    So the PC has a great piracy rate it doesn't stand anymore. So far, the only piracy proof systems are from Sony: PS3 and PSP Go. For how long, we'll see. But the corporate narrowminds can't understand a simple principle: anything created by a human mind, can be dismantled/undone by another human mind.

  • davisorle #116 2 years ago

    That was expected since they last talked officially about it. They were warming up the grounds. Im pretty sure they said more or less that " we don't have actual plans and announcements for a PC version yet" so i dont see why all ths surprise. Yet I can find it a real bummer for PC gamers without a 360 on the side. This is a game u need to own one way or the other. At least looks like the best atmospheric shit ever out there so i wont be missing on this one. Just hope the gameplay also delivers as much as the visual quality of this title.

  • frankfurter209 #117 2 years ago

    OK but the piracy rates of a singleplayer 360 game are nothing compared to piracy rates for singleplayer PC games. Pirating 360 games is a pain in the ass and I don't want to mod my console, any computer with utorrent can get any PC game out there. Don't even try to compare the two

  • JHuxley #118 2 years ago

    OK but the piracy rates of a singleplayer 360 game are nothing compared to piracy rates for singleplayer PC games

    True, but a high-profile PC game - even a multiplatform one - will still sell millions. And although some of those will buy this on 360 instead, I'd imagine they're losing the majority of that potential audience.

    Personally I (and others) think that MS are trying to push the 360 by tying down more genuine exclusives, and hopefully Alan Wake will live up to the hype and shift consoles in the process. In the long run that's *much* more profitable for MS than a few hundred thousand PC game sales.

  • Quak #119 2 years ago

    You do not have to spend anywhere near £1200 every 18 months to have a PC which markedly outperforms consoles; not unless you can't build a machine yourself and buy overpriced Alienware stuff.

    Well done for stating the obvious. I choose to spend £1,200 every 18 months because I want an awesome rig that can comfortably run all of the latest games at maximum settings. I could easily cut that in half and settle for slightly older/less powerful kit, but I don't want to. At no point did I say that anyone *has* to spend that much.

    As someone has already said though, canning PC games has nothing to do with the performance of either PC or consoles and it simply comes down to money, so debating PC specs is pretty pointless anyway.
    Edited by 2 at 12/02/10 @ 19:31

  • hahayou #120 2 years ago

    What a load of shit. You'd have thought a supposed "brand management professional" would be able to come up with something that didn't provoke instant rage. For the sake of the internet, here are some blood-pressure-safe reasons for not supporting a platform:

    Another platform holder offered us a shitload of money, and we like money.
    The platform doesn't have a capability that we think is essential to the game (make sure it actually doesn't, you tosser).
    We're auteurs, what do do may not make sense to you but it's for purely artistic reasons, our awesome track record justifies us.
    We didn't think the version would pay for itself, bizniss is bizniss.
    We don't have the time/experience/skills/money to support the platform right, and we only want to put stuff out that's perfect.

  • bing #121 2 years ago

    @X3 The reason alan wake is cancelled on pc is because you want to nurture it as an xbox360 exclsive title, not just a console exclusive, so that the name "alan wake" can be put along side halo and gears off war. guess sony must have you scared huh with their ressurgent exclusives titles.

    Because Halo and Gears werent released on the PC, oh wait a minute...

  • GamesConnoisseur #122 2 years ago

    We cant keep everyone happy

    We did wonder why MS doesnt do much exclusives for X360 and in face of strength of PS3's exclusives that was disturbing for me and only reassured from the good jobs and number of excellent multi platform games.

    Going forward MS would need to commit some more exclusives to X360 to prevent it becoming even more aged toward the fifth year of its life.

    Yet people who loses out are those who held off X360 or sold it on expectation that most worthy games would be coming to PC anyway if not available on PS3 (those who owns it).

    They would be pissed off but ask yourself would Sony done the same? They would not have agreed to let PC version exist in first place unless make business sense ie MMO.

  • des #123 2 years ago

    Old news...nobody cares about PC anymore,any normal PC player has realized that 5 years ago...just like me
    If you want to play games this gen,360 is the ultimate choice.
    Adapt or disappear situation.

    Why?PC devs have sabotaged themselves with crappy games,crappy performance,constant crashes,constant patching...i used to be mad at PC,not anymore,it deserves all the crap that its getting now...

  • PeeSee #124 2 years ago

    "Old news...nobody cares about PC anymore,any normal PC player has realized that 5 years ago...just like me
    If you want to play games this gen,360 is the ultimate choice.
    Adapt or disappear situation.

    Why?PC devs have sabotaged themselves with crappy games,crappy performance,constant crashes,constant patching...i used to be mad at PC,not anymore,it deserves all the crap that its getting now... "

    Absolutely spot on mate. Nobody but hardcore nerds give a shit about PC now. That's why the PC sections in game and HMV are contained to 1 shelf.

    I laugh my tits off at the arguement of "I play games on my £2000 PC through my 42 inch hd telly with a gamer pad blah blah blah". Well if that's the case then you're a fucking idiot spending all that money on that set up when ou could do the exact same witha 360 for a fraction of the cost, play games sooner and not have to put up with shitt ports and crap like that. £2000 so you can play a game with a little less tearing is completely spasticated haha.

    But who reall plays pc games like this? Hardl anyone plays PC games anmore and the ones that play through a hd telly must account for about 1% of pc gamers. Don;t make out it's the fucking norm. It's extreme, crazy behaviour that onl a total gaming fanatic would even consider.

    Devs know this and this is why they don't bother with PC versions anymore. This will only continue and get more regular until the PC becomes obsolete as a gaming device. It's a thing of the past.

    Whine and whine and nerd rage as much as you like but no dev is going to give a shit about the 1% of weirdos willing to pay thousands of pounds for a tiny bit better resolution and frame rates.

    PC gaming is almost dead. Time to adapt people.
    Edited by 2 at 12/02/10 @ 20:59

  • Katsumoto #125 2 years ago

    Oh for god's sake, you can get a DX11 PC that massively outpowers all the current consoles for c.£400. I know that isn't the point, as Kangarotoo pointed out, I just feel the need to remind all these idiots whose sole argument against PC gaming seems to be this notion you have to spend 1000s of pounds. The PC I got in 2007 and havent touched the insides of since still runs everything I have tried pretty much flawlessly. And it cost more like £500 than £1000. Christ alive.

  • PeeSee #126 2 years ago

    link me to a 500 quid PC that runs games way better than consoles do?

    The simple fact is. It's just a lot easier to simply buy a 360.

    Don't try and make out you can just spend 500 qid and then you're set for a few years. Cos that's bullshit. But if you buy a 360 you don't need to worry about how a game will run.

    90% of the population don't know what graphics cards are good or what ram is anyway. Amd these are the people devs are making money out of. Not the fools on the internet who think they're the gaming elite.

  • jellyhead #127 2 years ago

    Some of us prefer games that the consoles just aren't capable of. Preference, innit.

  • Lord_Gremlin #128 2 years ago

    Hmm, never cared about this game, but the statement itself is stupid - PC can be easily hooked to TV. And wireless gamepad can be connected to PC.

  • Jonny5Alive7 #129 2 years ago

    I couldn't care less, if its a good game I will get it.

  • MaxiSleep #130 2 years ago

    My prediction is that they already know its pants and so are trying to wind down the costs and get it out.

  • Katsumoto #131 2 years ago

    "Don't try and make out you can just spend 500 qid and then you're set for a few years. Cos that's bullshit."

    I suppose my PC must be magic then. Here's an example of an overpriced PC http://ww w.dinopc.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.as... that is under £500 and is specced well enough to deal with anything out there way better than a 360. I just found that immediately on google, there are much better value and better specced systems.

    Anyway, i'm not arguing that a console or a pc is better. They're both good, and I own both a gaming pc and two consoles. I just wish people wouldn't automatically jump on the "ooo you have to spend thousands of pounds and upgrade every year" thing.
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 23:26

  • IneptPercy #132 2 years ago

    "link me to a 500 quid PC that runs games way better than consoles do? "

    [link url=http://cgi.e bay.co.uk/Desktop-Gaming-PC-ATHLON-X4-Quadcore-4gb-Ati-5770- DX11_W0QQitemZ400101946226QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_De sktopPCs?hash=item5d27ef3372
    ]http://cg i.ebay.co.uk/Desktop-Gaming-PC-...[/link]

    Not amazing and you will get better if you spend 10 minutes learning how to build one, and there is enough money left to get a legit windows 7 license.

  • T3TSUO #133 2 years ago

    Read it all before.
    Final Fantasy 14 is a ps3 exclusive - not now it isn't
    GTA 4 DLC won't be released on disc - Yes it was
    GTA 4 DLC is a 360 exclusive - not now it isn't
    Star Ocean 4 is a 360 exclusive- nope
    Fallout 3 DLC wil not be released on PS3 - Nope again
    I could go on and on and on.
    I'll bet my wife and kids this makes it to PC maybe even PS3. But I wouldn't be too upset. Alan Wake looks totally dull and will probably have a playing time roughly the same as the Max Payne games. Short and lacking in playability.

  • RESIDENT_nEVILe #134 2 years ago

    That has to be the most ill judged pieces of PR nonsense I've ever read. Unless they actually wanted to ignorantly stick two fingers up at anyone who has bought a PC in the last 5 years, whilst simultaneously insulting the intelligence of anyone over the age of 13. If that was the case - mission accomplished.

    I am bored, so forgive my rabid whining.

    Yes, consoles are more widespread in the living room. Yes, people actually can own more than one console and a PC at the same time without spontaneously combusting. Yes, people do actually plug their PCs into HDTVs/projectors - hard to believe, no? Yes, people want convenience in their gaming, but if given the chance - in a fit of kerayziness - some of them like to spend extra time and money to see the game run at a higher frame rate/resolution with better anti-aliasing, v-sync, and quicker load times. Yes, yes, hate on me for listing those last few things because they are true. All the bleating in the world won't change the truth - accept it and move on.

    Why would any self respecting gamer cheer the demise of a game on any particular platform? I don't understand; they're just games that you could actually play if you really wanted to. What's so bad about that?


    "Alan Wake is a day one for me. Although, if there was a PC version coming out, I would get that."

    "Heavy Rain is a day one for me. Although, if there was a PC version coming out, I would get that."


    Read the above two sentences. Breathe. Don't have an aneurysm. Well done.










    ;)
    Edited by 1 at 12/02/10 @ 22:05

  • rayscoota #135 2 years ago

    Time to sell the xbox for me

  • Lunatic4ever #136 2 years ago

    @Haloboy!:
    Nope.U dont get the point. When i have the choice GOOD GAMER PC or XBOX,i will always prefer my PC.
    I bought the xbox for some cool games you prefer to play with a bunch of friends (racing,football and such)
    But Remedy...that company is turning its back to us.
    I just think its fucked up.There are lot of people dont have a xbox and they were longing for this game eagerly.
    They coudlve said it much earlier to not make all people look forward to it...

  • MattyD #137 2 years ago

    I actually play my PC on my living room tv via DVI.


    WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, REMEDY?

  • T3TSUO #138 2 years ago

    Wouldn't mind but for years Microsoft were seen as the evil dark lords trying to monopolize everything but now people cannot get enough of them.
    MS have gotten into the position they are in not by producing ground breaking inventive games but by copying and buying off exclusive titles as their own.
    If they do win the console I'll wager people will whine and nitpick about them just as they are doing about Sony this gen.
    Think about it people, They can't go Blu ray which will be standardised over the next 2 years or so, so they'll have to go download only and every man and his dog hates that idea. Unless of course you live in good 'ol US of A were they cannot get up to go to the bathroom without the use of an industrial winch.

  • Lusterpurge #139 2 years ago

    I don't care, personally. PC games and console games should be distinct from each other. The PC is much different and if you are going to make a game for the PC, make it only for the PC. Likewise for consoles. Otherwise, it dilutes the experience when the game is compromised for being developed for a system that you aren't playing it on.

  • sarcasmoidosis #140 2 years ago

    If you happen to own a good PC and if a multiplatform game comes out and it's done right, I see no reason to buy it on a console. Yes, when the 360 launched, games looked awesome in comparison to PC, then they looked the same and now they're just weaker.

    Example: Mass Effect can easily be run in 60 FPS (360 version is capped at 30) and higher details on a not so expensive PC.

    That being said, I still own a 360, since some devs don't port or port horribly (Bioshock 2 Multiplayer issues are a perfect example)

  • bemaniac #141 2 years ago

    great i have to pay for it now lol

  • Shakey_Jake33 #142 2 years ago

    @Lusterpurge - Am I missing something? I've been playing console-centric games on my PC for years.

  • alcides #143 2 years ago

    Some commenters have argued that the PC is dead anyway, and that you should stop beating the dead horse and play on what's the norm now: Xbox360.

    Hilarious. Because, I have a PS3, a DS, a Wii, a PSP and a PC. But no 360.

    PC is CREATIVE! There are mods, indies... There's even 3D RIGHT NOW and since 2008! 3D is old news on the PC! I never was a PCboy,and I always refused to play on PC because I expected a plug and play and no Microsoft Windows BUGSHIT experience but even I know this: PC serves as the cutting-edge plateform, and it will always be the best platform for sim-likes, mmos, fps.... If it wasn't for the PC, there wouldn't be games anyway!

  • Darren #144 2 years ago

    A mid-range PC would probably have ran Alan Wake far better than the Xbox 360 could but if the developers can't be arsed to code it then that's that I guess. Disappointing for sure but in many ways not that surprising given that many developers tend to prefer coding for the consoles these days as that's were the sales are pretty much guaranteed. Whether I buy the game on the 360 very much depends on what the final version is like technically... certainly the game was looking very ropey, like the 360 was struggling to run it, when I saw footage of it last year.

  • lssl17 #145 2 years ago

    To be perfectly honest, the reason quoted for the pc cancellation in this article is exactly my reason for pre-ordering the 360 version over the pc one.

    I run my 360 on a projector with 5.1 surround, which will be perfect for Alan Wake's style and 3rd person perspective.

    I also have a decent PC with 24'' full hd monitor and headphones on which I play FPSs like CSS and L4D2.

    Rule of thumb: FPS on pc, everything else on 360.

  • dacicus #146 2 years ago

    There are a lot of titles that are better played on PC. TBS, FPS, RTS genre are better suited on PC. Some RPG titles are also easier to handle on PC.
    Platform, Adventure, Jump 'n' Run, Fighting titles are better on a console. I don't see myself playing Street Fighter, or Uncharted 2 on PC.
    @Mr. frankfurter: piracy on consoles a pain?! Sir, i'm laughing. In our days is as easy as on PC. There are enough people that know how to put a modchip or modify a console firmware, people that are offering their services to other for a very small fee. Piracy on consoles is rampant lately. Proof are the many torrents offering the latest titles for certain consoles. So don't give us bull.
    For once I'd like the gaming corporation to admit that their on the wrong tack. That they've completely lost touch with reality and with the market. Piracy was the boogieman of choice for too much time, even at the times when a game sold poorly because it was utter c..p. Games rushed out, with little or no testing, zero day patches, draconic protections that are really punishing the customer (the pirate still gets its copy, if he really wants the game), zero support after launch, cr,p sequels and prequels, same stuff launched and relaunched other and other again (Guitar Hero and Rock Band are two good examples). There were times when a game was kept three years in production. In our days it is rushed out in six month. Piracy didn't killed the PC gaming, the game developers/ game publishers did. Any tangible product has an aftermarket support. Games stopped to have that years ago. Poor understanding of the market, the constant bickering about we must deliver this game to as many people we can. But the modern market it's not a whole, not anymore. The western companies left a vacuum in a certain area of the PC gaming, a vacuum that it's filled now by the russian. And they seem to do fine.Titles like King's Bounty are selling in Russia and in Western Europe decently. The first King's Bounty made enough to shell a sequel, while bringing some new game mechanics. Games like Fantasy Wars started small and adopted a digital distribution form. Sold enough to add a sequel and three mini-expansions for the sequel ( Elven Legacy). Western and Eastern Europe Companies are filling the point & click genre space, a genre abandoned but people that said "adventure games are dead". And yet they still sell. The classics like Larry, Space Quest are still selling. Add to that titles like Still Life, Syberia, A Vampire's Story(just to name a few). And the companies that are filing the void are adapted: they've embraced the online distribution and make in many cases a healthy profit through their own online shops. While the corporations still are using old models and complain about piracy, small companies try to make a name for themselves, doing what the market are expecting from them to do.

  • General_Zod #147 2 years ago

    It will be great one day when PC gaming is dead and all these people who wish for its demise go to buy their new console and see its got a £1000 price tag. As consoles are just cheap gaming PCs what will happen to the R+D costs for Microsoft and Sony when they have to develop the graphics card from scratch for example? Where will these costs be passed to? People wishing for the end of PC gaming have no understanding where the gaming industry gets its innovation from. Online play only came really big for consoles this generation, I have been playing online for years on the PC, where do the big graphical developments come from? This will be the next big thing I am sure 3D glasses, probably in the next generation of consoles. Again if you wish for the end of PC gaming, you wish for the end of the most innovative platform in the gaming industry.

  • juho #148 2 years ago

    Too bad - even though the game wasn't on my most anticipated games list, I would've liked to check it out. There's no way I'm buying a 360 for this (or pretty much anything else neither), and that whole sofa+TV vs. desktop argument smells like a load of BS anyway.. But in the end, with the amount of quality releases coming to PC and PS3, who cares? Time to move on..

  • Saxo #149 2 years ago

    Well good thing then that i have both a pc and a Xbox 360, so no biggie. However i would rather have played it on the PC. but on the plus side PC got BFBC 2 now :D

  • Gunzberg #150 2 years ago

    bitched about this already on the CVG forum, but let me reiterate:

    1. Here's my money for your game (Look Look!)

    2. I WANT to give you my money!!

    3. What do you mean you don't want to spend £1.50 producing the DVD and case for the PC version ?

    4. What do you mean you can't even host a downloadable digital version ?

    5. I used to like ya Remedy....

    6. Oh look other games I could spend my money on!

    7. Kthxbye

  • Lunatic4ever #151 2 years ago

    @Tyrell: WORD

  • the_mtfr #152 2 years ago

    A guy from Microsoft is telling me that he decided it's more compelling if I play the game from the sofa, instead of the chair in front of my PC?? What --- the --- fuck???

  • Syrette #153 2 years ago

    Get over it already, it's obvious the quoted 'excuse' in the article is just to cover their real reason - wanting to make Alan Wake a genuine 360 exclusive.

  • Jelly_Head #154 2 years ago

    @ignatiusjreilly

    Just for fun...

    A PS3 doesn't even have proper Flash in the browser,


    That's one reason to use it IMO... roll on HTML5! ;-)


    let alone the thousand of things a computer can do that a console can't


    Err... you mean spreadsheets and stuff... you want to do that in your living room?


    and the relatively low res of its display.

    720p and, increasingly, 1080p.... the same as my TV.


    And despite all that it's not even any cheaper.

    Your PC cost only £260? Seriously?


    What possible reason is there to choose it as a media center[sic] over a PC, apart from being "easier to set up", which holds no advantage to someone who knows how to work a computer?

    Well, that is the reason... but also the one thing you can do on a PS3, which you definitely can't with your £260 PC, is play PS3 games!

    :-)
    Edited by 2 at 13/02/10 @ 17:32

  • Nuada #155 2 years ago

    Alan Wake minimum system requirements:
    Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Dual Core 2.60Ghz or Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Dual Core 2.13Ghz
    Memory: 3GB
    Graphics: NVIDIA 8800GT 512MB graphics card or better, ATI Radeon HD4830 512MB graphics card or better
    OS: Windows Vista, Windows 7
    Other requirements: Sofa or Lazyboy,

    Recommended system requirements:
    Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Dual Core 2.60Ghz or Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 Dual Core 2.13Ghz
    Memory: 3GB
    Graphics: NVIDIA 8800GT 512MB graphics card or better, ATI Radeon HD4830 512MB graphics card or better
    OS: Windows Vista, Windows
    Other requirements: Sofa or Lazyboy, Minifridge stocked with beer, snacks, weed


    What Cunts are Microsoft? Who the fuck are they to tell us what fucking furniture we need to be sitting on to play a shagging computer, sorry, video game?
    Edited by 1 at 13/02/10 @ 17:31

  • Zephro #156 2 years ago

    Well fuck them, I won't even buy a 360 copy now.

  • Errol #157 2 years ago

    Probably going to be rubbish anyway.

  • eiocreative #158 2 years ago

    Who the fuck is playing games on the PC anymore?

  • p0k3m0nmastr #159 2 years ago

    well why don't you let ME the consumer decide how i prefer the game to be displayed. oh wait that would make sense.

  • General_Zod #160 2 years ago

    @HugeXbox360Fan

    Oh I forgot when Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 were going to be flagship titles for Quad cores and DirectX 10. I couldnt find similar videos for Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 :(
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/10 @ 08:33

  • Bucser #161 2 years ago

    I am completely sure that it will be as exclusive as Mass Effect was for X360 or GTA IV for consoles (and not told about the 50 million dollars for half year of exclusivity on the Episodes from Liberty City... Bollocks...).

    Lets hear exclusive again after half a year of the release.

  • Zaiz #162 2 years ago

    >.> My five year old PC with it's fancy 8800something that I bought at budget pricing would murder this game. Oh, and it does so for all other console ports. Funny, I thought I had to upgrade it at some point, preferably twice a year every year. It also doesn't yellow ring, red ring, or even make a sound, really. Rock solid. Meanwhile, I've seen multiple friends send in their Xbox360s and a few PS3s back to the shop. I could probably rebuild that PC for something on the order of 300 USD, not counting Windows, which is silly expensive. Or free, if you just, uh, tell Microsoft that you had to replace your motherboard because you spilled coffee on it, and stick the Windows disk into the "replacement" PC.

    Heh. But to actually get on topic, I wouldn't have bought Alan Wake, methinks. It seems waaay too close to all the other survival horror games on the market, and I've played and enjoyed several, but none have really recaptured RE4 for me.

  • freakzilla #163 2 years ago

    Why don't you just fucking stab me in the face you bastards. Remember intel demo with quad core processor?


    jk... don't kill me.
    Edited by 1 at 14/02/10 @ 17:50

  • Buran #164 2 years ago

    Tell the truth, Microsoft. The decision is in order to prevent the massive piracy of the game in PC, in order to protect the sales of the game in Xbox 360. There's no shame in doing this, just be honest explaining your reasons.

    Also, console gaming isn't more intimate, a 46" at 2 mts covers a lot less field of vision than a 20" monitor at 60 cm. PC is more inmersive (fov, framerrate, resolution...).

  • djed #165 2 years ago

    Stupids. They've lost a pirate bay download from me with this decision.

    alanwakelol.

  • Nephirion #166 2 years ago

    Alan Wank ...

  • muscleblade #167 2 years ago

    @Anthony_Daniels

    You are a silly little boy with stupid little comments.

    Cant wait for this game. Its probably going to be fantastic.

  • EraSerX #168 2 years ago

    pity, was really looking forward to play this (on my PC), but not enough to buy an xbox360 to play it.

  • kule #169 2 years ago

    Wouldn't surprise me if there's a couple of things at play here:

    1) They have taken ages to finish the game and they want to concentrate on one platform to ensure it gets finished asap.
    2) MS wants to maximise the profits; so go for xbox release first (with no apparent hope of a pc version), give it 6-months or so then I they "change their minds" and announce a pc version in the works.

  • TSYNDMonkfish #170 2 years ago

    @ General Zod (comment 164) Bloody spot on mate, couldnt agree more..

  • IneptPercy #171 2 years ago

    I can't see how PC's are harder to setup, My mates PC has 3 wires, power, hdmi and controller.

    I suppose the stink isn't about this being a 360 exclusive, there is 360/PS3 exclusives all the time its the fact that this has been a PC game from the start and has been pulled which is annoying.

    As mentioned if PC gaming dies then where will the consoles get there parts from? both consoles GPU's are modded PC GPU's and one of the driving forces behind faster processors is gaming, I know for one if I wasn't gaming on my PC I would have a lessor spec PC.

  • UncleLou #172 2 years ago

    Sony never publish their console games on PC and nobody minds so why is it a huge issue?

    Simple. Because Sony don't try to sell me their OS and whatnot with a "Games for Playstation OS" campaign.

  • bonker #173 2 years ago

    The only reason I can think of for making this baffling decision is because they think the game is shit and they want to cut their losses, without completely losing face by canning it completely, so the fewer platforms the better

  • FooAtari #174 2 years ago

    @HugeXbox360fan
    Why aren't we shitting bricks when Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 don't come out on the PC?

    1. Those games were never announced for the PC.
    2. PC was the lead platform for Alan Wake. Tech demos showing the advantage of Quad Core CPU's and all that.

    Quite a big different there that you obviously missed. Or more than likely ignored so you could do a nice bit of trolling.

  • Spekingur #175 2 years ago

    The only reason I can think of for making this baffling decision is because they think the game is shit and they want to cut their losses, without completely losing face by canning it completely, so the fewer platforms the better

    If they wanted to lay low then I would have guessed they would released it only on PC. It is also silly to say it is because of piracy that the PC version was cut - piracy is not limited to PC games :p
    Edited by 2 at 15/02/10 @ 15:24

  • jambo74 #176 2 years ago

    piracy is not limited to PC games - no but from what I have read on the web it is FAR, FAR easier.
    Don't see many people being thrown off the web through pirated games

  • jambo74 #177 2 years ago

    piracy is not limited to PC games - no but from what I have read on the web it is FAR, FAR easier.
    Don't see many people being thrown off the web through pirated games

  • muscleblade #178 2 years ago

    @Darren

    I think you are udeservingly crude to your once favourite gaming platform. The 360/PC multiplatform releases looks more identical now than before and closer in quality than most multiplatform games when the PS3 and 360 versions is compared.
    Bad english i know (its my third language).

  • curtlikesmeat #179 2 years ago

    It'll be a miracle if this turns out anything better than mediocre.

  • Spekingur #180 2 years ago

    @jambo74: Easier? Possibly. Not in all cases. Just like there is piracy for PC games there is "piracy" for movies, tv shows, music, X360 games, DS games, PSP games, Wii games, PS2 games, etc etc. To believe that gaming piracy is limited to PC games only is just being naive.

  • yagisencho #181 2 years ago

    Given simultaneous release on the XBox 360 and PC, I choose the PC edition every time. And this is one of the reasons why we won't be seeing a PC version of Alan Wake; Microsoft's Entertainment and Devices Division President Robbie Bach grows his division if the XBox business does well. PC game sales can only hurt his business (though they help influence Windows customer loyalty).

    Sigh.

  • Dillinger #182 2 years ago

    bullshit liar excuse. Tell the truth remedy, grow some balls.

  • jambo74 #183 2 years ago

    @Spekingur

    You need a chipped 360 to play copied games. Get found out and you lose XBL.

    Edited by 1 at 19/02/10 @ 10:23