360 sales double PS3 in US
Madden outdoes BioShock.
The Nintendo Wii was the best-selling console in North America last month, while the Xbox 360 outsold PlayStation 3 by more than 2 to 1.
According to analysts the NPD Group, 403,600 Wii units were shifted during August. The figure for DS stood at 383,300. In third place was Xbox 360 after a $50 price cut boosted sales to 276,700.
Perennial favourite PlayStation 2 continues to do well, with 202,000 units sold - not bad for an old timer. As for Sony's young whippersnappers, 151,200 PSP units and 130,600 PS3s were sold.
A good time was had by all the platform holders and publishers, as hardware and software sales were up by 46 per cent over last year's to reach nearly A BILLION DOLLARS. Nearly.
Madden NFL '08 for Xbox 360 was the best-selling game of the month with 896,600 copies sold, followed by the PS2 version (643,600). Madden Wii didn't do so well, reaching No. 11 in the all-formats chart, while the version for Ye Olde Xbox was at 12 and the PSP game was down at 18.
The third best-selling game for August was BioShock (490,900). In fourth place was Madden again - the PS3 version this time (336,200).
Wii Play was at No. 5, while Metroid Prime 3 took sixth place and Mario Strikers: Charged was in seventh. The Guitar Hero II controller bundle for PS2 was at No. 8, pushing Mario Party 8 down to No. 9. Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80s rounded off the top ten nicely.
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That's incorrect, EG. Madden for Ye Olde Xbox was No. 11, Madden Wii was No. 12
Edit - Link:
http://bi z.gamedaily.com/industry/featur...
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wow
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" \Runs for the door, handle comes off in hand! NOOOOOoooooooo (In best Darth Vader howl) this is going to get messy"
Howcome in every topic nowdays the first 10 posts are always these "hilarious and genious messages about flame-wars"
Americans are Madden-fans, and why buy the inferior version for ps3 with its poor fps. So the sales are not unexpected.
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I totally agree. The thing that pisses me right off about the Xbox was that MS dropped all first-party support around six months before the release of the 360, when games such as Ninja Gaiden and Riddick had proved that the old Box had plenty of mileage in her left. They were so keen to rush onto the next generation that they left their first console dead in the water when it had had an innings of barely four years in some parts of the world.
That's part of the reason I haven't bought a 360 yet - it's a silent protest. Although my defences are slowly being worn down...
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The only reason Sony still support the PS2 so well is its their cash cow - all of the big 3 are businesses at the end of the day.
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Anyway, it's nice to see that Wii and DS are still smashing the hardware sales in the US.
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US = MS
UK = Sony
Japan = Nintendo
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Maybe not as quickly or in as dramatic fashion as the good ol' Saturn, but it sure pissed me off (pre buying a 360) to see the xbox section in the local Gamestop go exactly the way the Gamecube section went - ie. ZERO new games, just grubby, old, rubbish 2nd hand ones that nobody wants.
It's just a pity that we gamers make it worthwhile to the console makers to do business this way.
Wouldn't it be superb if Sega announced Nights 2 for Saturn, or Shenmue 3 for Dreamcast?
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usual dumb comment there - replacements ARN'T sales. Shut up you lying Sony fanboy.
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Good luck with that
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US = MS
UK = Sony
Japan = Nintendo"
Isn't that Europe = Sony
UK = 360 I thought, I might be wrong
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I agree, but here's the thing, are they counted in the units shipped?
Could explain the difference in the numbers (between shipped and sold), which seems to be quite high for the 360?
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Don't worry man, everyone knows Bob is a Sony fanboy (yes Bob, I know you have an XBL account but that doesn't change where your loyalties lie)
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Your not wrong you're right. Rest of Europe however seems much molre balanced, with a slight lean to Sony.
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In fact, it's been quiet on the RRoD front. Has it actually been solved and the failure rate is down to acceptable levels, or have the MS police silenced the dissenters?
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Nah the UK is definitely a Sony stronghold, for some reason we lap up their shit. For instance the PSP virtually bombed everywhere else except the UK where it had record sales (which were then beaten by the DS).
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Now if you told the same people that Wii Sports 2 is nearly out, watch em wet their pants.
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In fact, it's been quiet on the RRoD front. Has it actually been solved and the failure rate is down to acceptable levels, or have the MS police silenced the dissenters? "
Well, with the new warranty program and heat sinks. People have less to bitch about I suppose.
Good Riddance I say, we can talk about games again now.
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Bob is a special case, he finds it incredibally hard to make a single post that doesn't refer to 'teh crap 360 is teh crap RRODLOL" but he tries to hide it with false claims of loving the system. He was even caught out a few weeks ago when he said he had sent his 5th/6th 360 back to MS yet someone noticed he had been playing that very day via his XBL account. He then changed his story saying that instead of sending the 360 back to MS for repair he had got an exchange in the store he originally bought it from.
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It's an interesting strategy from MS. I'm pretty certain it has boosted 360 uptake, but while MS keep banging on about how the 360 is outselling the PS3 the truth of the matter is that it's only just outselling the PS2. The fight for next gen hasn't even really started yet. If you take total home console sales, Sony are still out in front.
Previous generation transitions have taken a couple of years. MS tried to speed things up by slitting the throat of the old Xbox. We'll only know if it worked when the PS2 finally dies off. Will the people currently buying PS2s go with brand loyalty or installed user base and software support?
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I agree.. biker_bob is a big gay liar.
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In all fairness, Bob probably plays more games on his 360 than all other people on my friends list combined. Not surprised if it breaks down, noone should play it THAT often!
@Bob
Seriously man, you can't STILL be playing Blue Dragon?
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You are just pulling figures out your ass, ha ha.
Super Mario Brothers is the biggest selling game of all time. Galaxy could easily shift more than 3 million.
And Halo isn't as much of a sales success as everyone likes to make out.
But we are going down the road of speculation, so there's no point arguing.
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Completely agree, I think when (not if) the Wii overtakes the 360 in hardware sales, the unfortunate sideffect will be how obvious it becomes that the non-traditional purchaser's of the system (which have propelled hardware sales ) will have a markedley lower attachment rate with Software.
Something the Madden figures in the US already seem to indicate.
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"We'll only know if it worked when the PS2 finally dies off. Will the people currently buying PS2s go with brand loyalty or installed user base and software support?"
In the US
PS2: 39.1 million hardware = 643,600 copies of Madden 08
Xbox 360: 6.3 million = 896,600 copies of Madden 08
Even if you consider 50% of PS2’s are broken, used to prop up drawers, used as a porch step, in the attic or owned by 3 years olds with no buying power, it is a massive falloff for PS2 sales.
In the software business, unit sales are King, not installed base. The fall off of PS2 is obviously becoming more pronounced.
And if those that have caused the drop in PS2 had gone to PS3, then the PS3 would already be the highest selling of the franchise. Which it was not
Seems your question has already been part answered.
EDIT - f***ing s**tty italics can never get it to work! Quotation marks it is! lol
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Ninty need to get a good half dozen brilliant games out there or
I don't have a Wii yet but two friends have it's still the same Wii Sports title we play - they haven't been wowed by anything else yet.
PS3 is still too early in the lifecycle to get excited about the games. That story will be different in a year's time but for now there's perhaps only a couple that I would recommend.
The 360 on the other hand has a massively more diverse/established game shelf. And, as headbog points out, there are a few AAA titles in line for the next few months.
The interesting point comes in the way the three consoles do different things.
360 is a plain old games workhorse with the option for HD-DVD and a few nice things on Live (downloadable content)
Sony does games but loads more (Blu-Ray, potential for HD recorder, and the whole "Home" experience, about which I could not be less excited)
Ninty has that great gimmicky appeal and family-focused fun.
It's like they have games in common, in the same way that a helicopter, a car, and a powerboat happen to have an internal combustion engine in common.
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PS3 is finished. There is no way back.
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Everyone saw this coming but Sony's Ultras.
US + UK, prefers 360, because let's face it, you have a bigger group of informed gamers, not like in here, where everyone says video-games... yeah playstation right ? Devil May what ?, yeah playstation...
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You might be on to something there... didn't the PS2 have a poor track record for reliability as well?
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No wonder the machine is doing so badly. It's competition offers everything it does, for much less money!!!
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BBA was okay for a laugh with your mates. I know people who think it's a great game.
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Just saying, one man's crap is another man's gold.
BBA is playable though, it's not Rise of the Robots
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kirbylol.
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"The typical Wii bestseller will be a game like Wii Fit, or Brain Training. Edutainemnt, or Fit-tainment are the massmarket games,.
We, as gamers, hate that fact - but this is what the mass market want. Wii Sports is a killer-app.
But going forward, despite it's sales advantage, teh Wii is not where 3rd parties will make their big bucks."
I can appreciate a Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Brain Training just as much as a Bioshock or Metroid Prime.
Every one I know bought their Wii for games.
Third parties have more chance of making their money on wii than anywhere else going forward, unless there is a monumental turnaround in sales.
Wii is going to be the cheapest to develop for, with the biggest market. It's a total no-brainer.
Nintendo have worked an absolute miracle.
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Even people on Intenet Forums have started saying "going forward".
Its the end I tell you!
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@Sebo
you sure about that? the Xbox Madden 08 (3rd party game) outsold the Wii Madden
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So wii fans are sensible and don't like American Football...........
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I have no ignored users, and I have always tried to act with courtesy in every posts I have sent even when disagreeing with other people. I am frustrated that I am only getting half of the conversation! I havent see why or where I sould be blocked from seeing his posts aside from where I questioned him why he was still playing on X360 as shown via Live intergration when supposed to be broken.
I call Biker_Bob a coward for not being prepared to have open conversation!
It is all about the games and not the platforms, that is always my argument
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No, it seems wii fans don't like to buy any games at all.
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@Sebo
uh huh....more sensible than the DS fans thankfully. DS fans made High School Musical (WTF?) #16 on the August charts.
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"I call Biker_Bob a coward for not being prepared to have open conversation!"
Let me add these two comments together for ultimate justice and closure -
Biker_Bob is a big fat cowardly gay liar!!!! That is all.
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Didn't say it was there all ready, speculated that it would be there in the future.
Which given the logic - big install base, low development cost - seems a very very reasonable assumption to me.
Wait up though, Big Brain Academy is third party and selling by the bucketload. Tiger Woods 08 seems to be doing very well in the sales charts too.
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I love them all like my little babies.
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]http://ga mers.eurogamer.net/fight.php?re...[/link]
Maybe I am being childish, but being shocked at being blocked/ignored by biker_bob despite in my view of being charitable in some of my comments re his horrid tales of broken and RRODs trial of X360, which will pretty much cross the whole of Netherlands.
So had honourable EG Fight, and pleased to annouce that I have won 8 to 3! So now consider the matter closed.
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Let's be realistic here. Hardware sales are always going to go up and down, depending on price changes and software launches. It should be no surprise to anyone that 360 sales would increase as a result of the price drop, the release of Bioshock and people buying hardware in anticipation of Halo 3.
Wii sales may have dropped slightly but that's mostly a seasonal thing and will increase hugely over the coming months in the run-up to Christmas. I know some people may have expected Metroid to have resulted in increased hardware sales but, although sales of the game itself were very good, it is proof again that the average Wii customer is not interested in such games.
As for the PS3, the sales are very disappointing but, with Madden, it did at least have a game that was in the top 5 for total sales in August. No one should doubt the appeal of the PlayStation brand, as demonstrated month on month with continued strong sales for PS2 and PSP (yes, PSP sales were down but that was largely down to people holding off for the Slim version). With several promising PS3 games released or released soon (such as Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Drake's Fortune and Haze) and with a potential price drop pre-Christmas (the possible $399 40GB model) we could see big increases in PS3 sales.
I think it's equally important to look beyond the Christmas period because what do the Wii and 360 have to entice new gamers? GTA4 will undoubtedly sell well on both 360 and PS3 but the PS3 has the first killer exclusive next year in the form of MGS4.
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The Wii is a far closer comparison as it appeals to a mainstream audience, like the PS2 did but the 360 doesn't.
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BTW Wii is closest to PS2 in terms of sales curve, shovelware, shite licenced games, mainstream appeal, and rapidly growing 3rd party support. At this stage in the PS2's life it was struggling for software but the economics of the machine i.e. huge installed base (plus relatively low dev costs for Wii) meant that so much software was made for the machine eventually good stuff floated to the top. Hopefully the same will happen with the Wii.
360 is the new XBox. Literally and metaphorically
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"I think it's equally important to look beyond the Christmas period because what do the Wii and 360 have to entice new gamers? GTA4 will undoubtedly sell well on both 360 and PS3 but the PS3 has the first killer exclusive next year in the form of MGS4."
I bought my PS3 purely for MGS4, but I have more money than sense. I don't think too many others will be doing the same.
January is a tough time to launch a game and sell hardware. Christmas is still more important for gaming than any othe period.
Both previous Playstations have only broken the mass market when they have come under £200. PS3 is always going to struggle until it does that
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Good comments. Seems ridiculous that the 360 compares closely to the Xbox in the market. I assume Microsoft are losing less money on the 360 though. Overall I mean - not just the hardware.
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Not if the core 360 hits $199 or fully-loaded hits $299 you won't
"I think it's equally important to look beyond the Christmas period because what do the Wii and 360 have to entice new gamers? GTA4 will undoubtedly sell well on both 360 and PS3 but the PS3 has the first killer exclusive next year in the form of MGS4."
I'll see your MGS4 and raise you...
Fable 2
Too Human
Banjo-Kazooie 3
SplinterCell conviction
GTA IV - The LIVE content
Alan Wake
Gears of War 2
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The Xbox 360 sales were helped last month by a price cut and a little game called Bioshock; sales rose from 170,000 in July to a whopping 276,000 for August. All of the other consoles and handhelds suffered a drop in sales from the previous month; the Wii was down 22,400, the PS3 was down 28,400, the PSP 62,800 down, PS2 20,000 down, the DS was 21,000 down and the GBA was 12,000 down. If this trend continues the Xbox 360 will be the world’s best selling console by Christmas.
Go Microsoft.
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Fable 2
Too Human
Banjo-Kazooie 3
SplinterCell conviction
GTA IV - The LIVE content
Alan Wake
Gears of War 2"
What, no Ninja Gaiden 2, Halo Wars, Lost Odyssey, Marvel Universe etc?
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How about:
You only really look out for the games on systems that you own? I don't know any games coming out for the Wii in 2008. Doesn't mean there aren't any.
These lists are pretty stupid, and all it shows is the games you look forward to yourself.
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Even people on Intenet Forums have started saying "going forward".
Its the end I tell you!
No, it's not the end. It's a paradigm shift towards utilising synergies vis-a-vis the mission statement.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Even people on Intenet Forums have started saying "going forward".
Its the end I tell you!
No, it's not the end. It's a paradigm shift towards utilising synergies vis-a-vis the mission statement."
wtf that got to do with the topic?!
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Yes, you'd think so, but it's funny how you said you had sent it away until another poster caught you out and noticed you had been playing. It was only then that you decided that you actually had not sent it away but instead returned it to the shop for a replacement.... Weird huh...
"Com'on let's bash Bob! He's gay! He's got his 6th of our Holy Grail! This cannot be happening! This is blasphemy! And he's got a PS3 too! He must be a Sony Fanboy then! He's lying! He's consorting with the devil (a.k.a. Sony). Let's waste him, yay! "
Lol, you said it Bob, you said it!
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US = MS
UK = Sony
Japan = Nintendo"
Umm.
That'd be:
US = MS but others are still close
UK = all three are very close
Rest of Europe = Sony by a mahusive way
Japan = Nintendo by a long way
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...and it's been out MORE than twice as long!!!
So that's NOT good.
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As long as Resi5 comes out on it and Microsoft does not exclusive it, I will be happy...
Still too early to call, but I think Sony might well be in the shit this time, but then again it is their own complacent fault, I really think we might see the N64 thing all over again.
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"Of course the 360 outsold the PS3. I've had 3 Elites in two weeks..."
Hmm... Two weeks ago you were saying the same thing. Wouldn't it now be at least four weeks? You seem to be a bit of an ass, me thinks.
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Oh by the way the Lousy TWO WORLD was listed I think at #14. Figure that out.
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"Of course the 360 outsold the PS3. I've had 3 Elites in two weeks..."
Hmm... Two weeks ago you were saying the same thing. Wouldn't it now be at least four weeks? You seem to be a bit of an ass, me thinks.
@all who's involved
wow!...a gay lynch mob in EG forums and to compound this fanboy stupidity...he's accused of exaggerating comments. No one else has done this in the forums.
give me a break...."Looks like PS3 is the new Sega Saturn."
"BBA is playable though, it's not Rise of the Robots"
"and some hardcore games like kirby."
"360 is really the new PS2..."
"It is all about the games and not the platforms, that is always my argument."
Now there's a bunch of truthful statements.
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"I call Biker_Bob a coward for not being prepared to have open conversation!"
Let me add these two comments together for ultimate justice and closure -
@Kryon
If noone has a problem with his sexual preference then why should it come to namecalling him when the subject is really about his fanboyism.
And if he has a twisted vendetta against MS (which i doubt since he's still playing 360 games), then your actions are just as twisted for being an Xbot with a PS3/Wii vendetta and instigating something out of nothing. Then you have the gall to say he "probably" had 1 or 2 machines bork on him. You don't know and does it really matter?
....that's still no reason to disrespect him unless he called YOU out, disrespected YOU and it's personal.
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@Kryon
Well, now you've done it. You've definitely crossed the line. You're an "dicked asshole" and a "closet" queen at that.
You have the brains of a lobotomized vulture, Kryon and wouldn't know what respect is if you got bioshocked 20 times.
The future is NOW....and I'll speak to you whenever I care to.
You're a fucking disgrace to gamers worldwide!!!
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Good point, Mr.Psycho...and I agree
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With the horrible NDP results for xbox 360 for August. NDP's numbers are primarily derived from the manufacturers and a few key retailers but that is it. And Microsofts numbers are ALL xbox 360's SHIPPED not sold - what is worse is they INCLUDE DEFECTIVE xbox 360 replacements to the retailers in these numbers.
From what people are discouvering last years August numbers were 270k sold vs 276K sold this year. So let's look at what this really means - the 276k includeds defective xbox 360 replacement shipments, as a result of the 3 year extended replacement warranty now in full swing, that the 276k will definitly have fallen short of comparable sales with last year.
So with a price cut, Bioshock released and Halo 3 on the way, the xbox 360 could not even beat last years sales again!
People this is year two for the xbox 360 if anything it is supposed to be growing not shrinking in sales. Microsoft has given everything it has to get the sales up and it is still failing.
There is a lot at stake in this console war - MS has not made a penny from its xbox division ever and they are doing whatever they can to turn the xbox 360 into a winner. But be aware that as of this posting Xbox 360 has not made a dime for Microsoft. The mistake people are making is thinking Microsoft can just go forever like this but they can't, with the news of their 1.15 billion dollar write off on the defective xbox 360's wall street analysts started to question hard when microsoft would make money of the xbox 360 and if this adventure into gaming really made any sense - people this is a problem for Microsoft.
And now the next problem is Sony's vision or answer to XBL is starting to be paid attention to, bringing people to say Microsoft will have to adopt a defensive position with XBL and drop the subscription fee of $50 per year. Translation 2 major problems - 350 million loss per year of almost pure profit and they are still left with an inferior interface and online experience compared to that of Sony's Home.
Home Beta Images - PS3 and PSP
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It is pretty clear that after the Halo 3 release it is going to be down hill with the PS 3's AAA games starting to come out. Most likely the quality problems and the lack of depth in game offerings are what are doing it.
The punchline the xbox 360 is in real trouble right now and price cut or not for the PS3 the xbox 360 sales might seriously grind to a halt after the Halo 3 release going deep into a further decline than Microsoft has seen this year.
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"Well, now you've done it. You've definitely crossed the line. You're an "dicked asshole" and a "closet" queen at that. "
Haha, seems I've hit a nerve eh, I love it, so after that big public show of 'politically correct' gay tolerance "Look. look, Biker_Bob is on my friends list so I like gays, all my friends are gay too, don't slag Bob for being gay" etc, it turns out you seem to have some deep seated homophobia issues yourself Tonyboy.
"dicked asshole" ? "closet queen" ? Oh dear. I think the phrase is 'self pwnage'.... Try harder next time Timmy, Tabby or whatever your name is.
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[link url=http://www.slashgear.com/refurbish ed-xbox-360-dies-within-5-minutes-147399.php
]http://ww w.slashgear.com/refurbished-xbo...[/link]
I just don't know how anyone can put up with such horrible quality and still pretend to be happy with it.
I guess it does just speak to the desperation of what true hardcore gamers will put up with to play a decent game. This has indeed come as a result of the transistion time for new games for the PS 3 from the PS 2.
Microsoft is in serious trouble the moment satisfactory replacement games arrive on the PS3. I really think Microsoft is quietly freaked about this issue more than anyone understands.
With the launch of Halo 3 and millions of ticking xbox 360 time bombs everywhere it could truly be a much quicker end to the xbox 360's future and alot of people know this.
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It is not good and the quality issue combined with the Halo 3 release and Microsofts inability to properly service these poor suffering users. As more of the PS3 games get out there the xbox 360 could lose a large % of users just not willing to put up with it anymore.
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Look you should follow the thread on the defective xbox 360's man it is not pretty. Microsoft is on the edge and all it is going to take is everything continuing just the way it is now with xbox 360 breakdown after breakdown for users - the moment the PS3 titles are they they are gone from being active 360 users, finished, done, stick a fork in Microsoft and turn them over bro.
And it is becoming clear that they will have ended up with the least successful next gen launch of all three players Wii, PS 3, and xbox 360 (these are listed by total sales for the first full year on the market). It is so funny how Sony is just plugging along and the whole time they have been out performing Microsoft very very cool.
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You're delusional, Numanthia!
You and dickhead Kryon would make a great couple
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With seeing MGS4, and Killzone 2; I have to say I wasn't that impressed!...Graphics were nice, but again nothing that say 360 can't do. With 360 AAA titles: Mass Effect, Fable 2, Lost Oddysee, Alan Wake, Halo 3, Ninja Gaiden 2 (exclusive to 360), Splinter Cell Convection (excluive to 360), Too Human, Dead Or Alive 5...360 is simply going strength to strength. 2008 is gonna see some new work by Rare, Bugiee, Tecmo, Mistwalker all exclusives to 360.
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We get it Bob, you aint having much luck, we all now know the ins and outs of your life, but you seem to be the only one who's having THIS much trouble, I think you're an exception.
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I have not called anyone gay and least of all Biker_Bob, and if you reread my comments, I was only referring to my frustrations at supposedly being excluded from reading all comments.
However the problem is clearly to do with EG end, as I have said I have not even added anyone to my to be ignored list. I also realise that I am not missing just Biker_Bob but quite a few people as well (Kryon inc). Solved when I log out and get to see the full contributions.
So head up in case others have similar problem, so perhaps our EG forum is as trustworthy as Biker_Bob's X360s? ;-D
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There you go again Tony, using the idea of a homosexual relationship in a derogatory manner, infact as an insult. You really don't 'get' how silly this makes you look , do you... You really are like those people who say "I'm not racist, I've got a black friend" you're a disgrace to yourself and your 'friend' Bob.
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Aww, sup Tony, look I know Bob is your 'special' friend but he's big enough to look after himself. I'm sure he appreciates your support and it's truly valiant that you'd stick up for your 'girl' like that but please leave me out of your 'manly bonding' exercises. In the future I suggest you speak to me only when spoken to.
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When the current PS2 owners decide to go next gen, they will be more likely to switch to the PS3 as they will have a large library of ps2 games to play as they already own them.
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If 360's results are horrible then what are the PS3s?
"NDP's numbers are primarily derived from the manufacturers and a few key retailers but that is it. "
Actually NPD purely uses 'sell though' data from retailers, so it has nothing to do with manufacturing at all. And the only major retailer NPD misses out is Walmart, although estimates of Walmarts sales are incorporated into the data. So no, replacement 360s are not included in these numbers because they're not sold through retail!
"From what people are discouvering last years August numbers were 270k sold vs 276K sold this year. So let's look at what this really means - the 276k includeds defective xbox 360 replacement shipments, as a result of the 3 year extended replacement warranty now in full swing, that the 276k will definitly have fallen short of comparable sales with last year."
The 276K didn't include replacement 360 units, and last August Microsoft sold 204K, not 270K.
[link url=http://forum.teamxbox.com/archive/index.php/t-468454.ht ml
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So that's a 35% improvement on last year's sales. That's pretty good given how small the price cut was.
"People this is year two for the xbox 360 if anything it is supposed to be growing not shrinking in sales. Microsoft has given everything it has to get the sales up and it is still failing."
Falling? The 360 sold 62% more than it did last month, and with launch of Halo 3 I'm sure it's going to maintain ~300K sales.
"The mistake people are making is thinking Microsoft can just go forever like this but they can't, with the news of their 1.15 billion dollar write off on the defective xbox 360's wall street analysts started to question hard when microsoft would make money of the xbox 360 and if this adventure into gaming really made any sense - people this is a problem for Microsoft."
Were it not for the warranty charge they would have come close to making a profit. Given the 360s stupendous software sales, and the fact that Microsoft have got their costs well under control this time around, they'd be idiots not to stick by the 360. This is they pay off they've been waiting for since they started the Xbox brand.
"and they are still left with an inferior interface and online experience compared to that of Sony's Home."
When Home matches what's already included in Live (cross game invites, voice chat, video marketplace etc.) then maybe you might be able to say that. But right now, Live is simply the more mature service.
"It is pretty clear that after the Halo 3 release it is going to be down hill with the PS 3's AAA games starting to come out. Most likely the quality problems and the lack of depth in game offerings are what are doing it."
The 360 has been crushing the PS3 in software sales, even without any having huge AAA titles itself, and nothing Sony has released so far has made any difference. So they better have something truly amazing up their sleeve, not just more Heavenly Swords or Lairs.
"The punchline the xbox 360 is in real trouble right now"
Why? Because sales have started to significantly climb following the price cut? Because Microsoft have Halo 3 and Mass Effect, two massive exclusives, and Sony have nothing with that kind of recognition? Because nearly every multiplatform title does better on the 360? Because retailers have reported that the reliability issues haven't affected demand?
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I have not called anyone gay and least of all Biker_Bob, and if you reread my comments, I was only referring to my frustrations at supposedly being excluded from reading all comments.
@GamesConnoisseur
I'm glad you apologized, GC and also separated your comments from the lobotomized vulture Kryon who conveniently connected yours to someone else's as to harass biker_bob.
Kyron's not funny....NEVER will be. I asked him to not to get personal (with me) which he, of course, did with aplomb anyway. He has problems but counseling would be futile, I reckon, since he has to fess up to them first.
@Kryon
From now on you will be ignored, though, I will talk you when I want to (Never!). Most of your comments are either rude, irrational or fanboy based anyway which I have no use for. BTW, you have no power just like all the friends I USED to have that are like YOU. You're washed up, buddy....goodbye
edit :@subtlesnake
Your rebuttal of Numanthia (a card carrying SDF member) biased comments were spot on
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You used to have friends? ROFL! Comedy Gold mate, lol like you ever had a friend (well, apart from your special friend Bob that is)
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sony are having a bad time and they know it and we know it, sure it will pick up but will it be enoguh i do not know, i know they've lost me as a customer when they became a childish buch kids, you know changeing the halo 3 wikipedia page and all
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they do and i'd rather trust a rattler with overbite.
as usual...big mouth=small dick LOL
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" the moment the PS3 titles are they they are gone from being active 360 users, finished, done, stick a fork in Microsoft and turn them over bro. "
Wishful thinking, the last refuge of a fanboi. Microsoft's lead over the PS3 is insurmountable - even if the PS3 next month started outselling the 360 at the rate the 360 is currently outselling the PS3 (due to mass hysteria or some other unexplained phenomena), it'll still take them three YEARS to break the 360's installed base.
Yeah, the soccer moms are still queuing up to buy the Wii, but who cares about that? They don't buy software (unless forced to by it being bundled with the console or extra controllers) and this time next year it'll be a forgotten dusty white lump under the telly. Pretty unlamented too - outside the usual excellent N firstparty stuff, the Wii has the shittest thirdparty library since the 3DO.
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(...) and software sales on the Xbox 360 are more than those on the PS3 and Wii combined.
http://ww w.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/BC...
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I've heard this reasoning a lot in the last time, but don't agree because I think a lot of people still play Halo 2 on their Xbox 1 - how else could the MajorNelson posts be explained where Halo 2 sits most of the time on the top?
I guess a lot of people will switch to Xbox 360 this autumn/christmas.
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The falcon chipset.
Decent marketing
a decent official 2D beat 'em up controller
a decent official FPS controller
OPTION of a built in HD-DVD drive
OPTION for developers to release games on HYBRID HD/DVDs
OPTION for developers to require a HDD (for GTA IV for example)
XBLA interface revamp
XBLA seriousness. INSIST on having COMPLETE online functions in these games. Get the best games on XBLA with COMPLETE online play INTACT.
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Look, you two are gay, we all know that and no one cares, if you two 'bois' like to let other men poke you're bums then thats fine but there's no need to advertise your knob-lust over a gaming site. Also I feel you should be more excepting of straight people. Heterophobia is a form of prejudice you pair of big fat homo bigots.
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No I didn't, Souljacker2000 did actually. If you could read properly you would know that.
"We don't advertise our gayness"
Lol, no ofcourse you don't, that's why you're naked in your profile pic.
"You are an idiot, sir"
Calling me 'sir' is OK but I prefer my underlings to address me as 'Master'. Take note for next time. KTNXBYE.
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Ugh. An incredibly spasticated comment from the master spastic. The EG site spastic strikes again.
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Second that.
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spazlol
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spazlol
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/does the Master Spaz victory dance
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No shit Sherlock! Wow, can't get one past you eh! Sharp as a razor you are son. Just out of interest, is this "spazlolling" a new thing on your council estate or is it your own private joke that only you find humorous?
"Can someone cave this troll?
Don't cry Les, you're pathetic enough without tears staining your Ratchet & Clank bib.
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MASTER SPAZ CRACKS OFF ANOTHER LOL!
COCKROACHES REJOICE
\VICTORY DANCE
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I bet you're the kind of snivelling acne ridden teen rent boy who in real life would beg me for a bit of cock, It's obvious you take the female role in bed but that's no reason to let yourself be treated like a bitch here, don't bend over so easily, you make it far too simple for real men like myself to shame you.
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it's like you're trying sooo hard to stand your ground and come across as intelligent/funny
:'oD
Keep it up, cockroach.
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I've lost count of how many times the cockroach refers to cock in this thread alone. The revolting creature just cannot stop thinking about it.
No doubt it will delete it's posts again, like the cockroach that it is.
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Anyway, seeing as you're not exactly cutting it in the intellect department, I'm guessing you're one of those 'easy' types,. If so, forward me a few pics of your grimy snatch n bewbs, then if you're lucky I might be kind enough to deflower you.
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First, the cockroach mocks gays. Then, the cockroach expresses a preference for 'gay guys'! Perhaps the cockroach should just come out and be done with. All those 'cock', 'knob' and 'bum' references flow unbidden from his inner gay. Let it out, cockroach! You know you want to! It's nothing to be ashamed of. However, given that the cockroach has done it's best to insult or offend the 'gay guys', I doubt they'd even do cockroach out of pity. (Or has it deleted all that stuff already?)
seeing as you're not exactly cutting it in the intellect department
SPAZLOL!
That's a job for Master Spaz.
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/Pats Carrier_bag on her smeggy little council estate arse and walks away.
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The 'cockroach' moniker seems so appropriate. The tappity-tap of your likkle cockroach legs, scuttling around the EG comments threads looking for crumbs; emitting foul smells when feeling threatened. Oh, and a towering intellect, of course!
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I didn't claim that I was intelligent, merely that I was more so than you (as is clear from your obvious inability to read and your persistent use of such terms as "spazlol", "thicko", "cockroach" etc. Although as I touched on before it is a well known fact that the average females IQ is lower than that of a males and this is why it is pointless and indeed unfair for me to continue to own you.
As for me Googling your name? What on earth makes you think this is the case? There are many others ways in which a person could find out exactly who you are...
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Those persistent terms. They're all quite appropriate and worth of repetition.
I shall explain:
cockroach = apt title for an obnoxious creature such as yourself. Tappity tap.
spazlol = referral to a piss-poor joke or insult. Something you specialise in.
thicko = reference to your stupidity. Ergo, 'thicko'.
There *are* ways of finding out more about people, but the only one you seem to know is a google search, you dumb cockroach. Best of all, you then spent time looking at a site with accessible source address records. DURRR!!!! Master Spaz OWNs again!!! :'oD
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Poor you
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Please no.
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Kry-baby loses the thread.
Actual conversation? What's that then? I think it's something people do with other people, rather than with a cockroach on an forum. Which means it's impossible to hold an 'actual conversation' with you, cockroach.
Seeing as you know how to use Google, I suggest you look up better drivel than that you've displayed so far. Or, go back to spaz-school.
@miiiguel: Sorry, dude.
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/Slaps Carrie on her fat arse.
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Tsk!
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Kockroach has put an amazing amount of effort into fucking up so many Wii and PS3 threads. Where does he find the time? I'm just as surprised that no-one complained about him, they make such awful reading.