Activision: why Xbox 360 gets Call of Duty Elite maps first

By Robert Purchese Published 27 January, 2012

"Nobody's going to get ripped off."

Some silly old sausages have "convinced themselves" that having a Call of Duty Elite subscription means they are entitled to maps on PC and PlayStation 3 at the same time as on Xbox 360.

Like gasp! Not true - as Activision's Dan Amrich was at pains to explain on his blog.

"Somewhere along the way, people convinced themselves that an Elite subscription would trump the 2010 DLC exclusivity deal that was created before Elite existed; that by paying for Elite, they were somehow invalidating a contract between Activision and Microsoft. It doesn't make any sense, but it is what people started to think," wrote Amrich, self-described as Activision's "blogger".

The Xbox 360 exclusivity deal remains valid until the end of 2012, and declares that all Call of Duty DLC appear first on Xbox 360.

This period of exclusivity was typically 30 days with Call of Duty: Black Ops DLC.

'Activision: why Xbox 360 gets Call of Duty Elite maps first' Screenshot del

"Yep, and it's called Call of Duty Elite..."

Map pack First Strike arrived 1st February on Xbox 360, and 3rd March on PlayStation 3 (25th March on PC). Map pack Escalation arrived 3rd May on Xbox 360, and 2nd June on PC (10th June on PS3).

Black Ops map pack Annihilation arrived 28th June on Xbox 360, and 28th July on PC and PS3. And map pack "Rezurrection" arrived 23rd August on Xbox 360, and 22nd September on PC and PS3.

Puzzled, Dan Amrich delved deep to find the source of confusion.

"Honestly? I think gamers just convinced themselves that it would happen because they wanted it to happen. That makes sense, but it doesn't make it true."

Dan Amrich, Activision's blogger

"What I found was that you can't prove the non-existence of something. I can find no evidence of 'buy Elite, get PS3 DLC same time as 360' ever being so much as suggested by any official source," he shared.

"It was never one of the things listed in the official benefits chart; it was never promised by any representative of Activision, Call of Duty, Elite, or its developers."

He pressed on: "Honestly? I think gamers just convinced themselves that it would happen because they wanted it to happen. That makes sense, but it doesn't make it true."

Even the Call of Duty Elite FAQ and Amrich's own previous blog post about Call of Duty Elite specified this not to be the case.

"So that's where we are," Amrich concluded. "The deal from 2010 is why DLC comes out on Xbox 360 first.

"I'm seeing people scream 'rip-off' and stuff like that, but nobody's going to get ripped off; every gamer will get everything they were promised and everything they paid for.

"It's unfortunate that people assumed things about Elite that turned out to not be based in fact, but I hope the truth is clear now.

"Unpopular, I'm guessing, but clear."

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Comments (72) Latest comment 3 weeks ago

  • bad09 #1 4 weeks ago

    To be honest you are charging people for a service while still earning off MS to withhold content from subscribers of this new service.

    You are ripping people off but it's not like you haven't been ripping people of for years anyway ;)
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/12 @ 10:43

  • LazyDan #2 4 weeks ago

    People are being ripped off alright, but in this case I think it goes further than being over the timed exclusives...

  • darkmorgado #3 4 weeks ago

    "I'm seeing people scream 'rip-off' and stuff like that, but nobody's going to get ripped off"...

    ...says representative of company as they gear up to sell yet another copy-paste annual installment in a franchise at above the average RRP.

  • Desheep #4 4 weeks ago

    Fuck you, Bobby Kotick!

  • PcPlasticfuzz #5 4 weeks ago

    I enjoy Modern Warfare 3 but this is ripping people off as much as they would never admit it. If I was stupid enough to pay £34.99 on top of my Xbox Live subscription (Although I play Modern warfare on PS3) id expect to be getting DLC at the same time as everyone else. It's a ridiculous service.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/12 @ 10:46

  • MattEdWithCheese #6 4 weeks ago

    Article+1 for Del Boy XD

  • joelstinton #7 4 weeks ago

    People will convince themselves of anything if it helps stick the knife in. Look at the comments in the mix of COD and Nintendo articles today.

  • LazyDan #8 4 weeks ago

    Actually, re-reading this there's something I can't quite believe:

    This guy is Activision's 'blogger', so essentially a man who should be painting a good picture of Activision as a PR face. The tone of his message however seems to be implying that gamers have been silly or stupid for assuming that *paying* for Elite would mean an equal service across platforms, and for not knowing about some non-gamer friendly business agreement between two companies.

    That's not very good PR.

  • kirankara #9 4 weeks ago

    Their phrasing of "getting dlc before everybody else" in relation to elite, won't have helped with this misunderstanding, and because something want mentioned in benefits, doesn't contradict the phrase "before everybody else" & make it clear.360 users still get it first.
    Elite sales pitch should have been "get dlc before everybody else, except for the millions of 360 users, if you're a ps3 owner" maybe?? Or would that not have sold as well to ps3 consumers, i'm guessing????
    Don't care as don't own shit game anymore, but still think they are wrong in their attempted defense here

  • Toothball #10 4 weeks ago

    This sounds like a very reasonable explanation if you're a lawyer. I doubt it's going to provide much comfort for PC and PS3 gamers though, whether their expectations were unrealistic or not.

  • GamesProgrammer Verified Games Team Programmer, Eutechnyx Ltd. #11 4 weeks ago

    So does this mean none Elite 360 gamers get it before elite PC and PS3 gamers?, cos that certainly would sound like there breaking there contract with elite getting you the content first, although i suspect the fine print says first on your respective console of choice.

  • aphex187 #12 4 weeks ago

    Maybe next time those $ signs pop when MS want in on these pointless exclusive DLC packs, maybe think about your customers first, because it is them who you are hurting the most!

  • darkmorgado #13 4 weeks ago

    Come off it, giving customers value for money has never exactly been Activision's strong suit.

  • Widge #14 4 weeks ago

    @Toothball this. People may huff and puff but he is stating that there is a contractual obligation. Transparency.

    Better that than some crazy pseudo-positive spout that PC/PS3 gamers prefer it later as 360 owners can work out the glitches or something.

  • Dizzy #15 4 weeks ago

    Wow.... a brand new day and somebody on the Internet feels ripped off?

  • Ace-Reject #16 4 weeks ago

    but nobody's going to get ripped off

    people bought the game didn't they :lol:

    i'm joking haven't played it so i can't comment, but most activision games i have played recently have been poor and have been a rip off, i remeber when there games were decent.

  • stuarty_2003 #17 4 weeks ago

    So...

    - Above average RRP
    - £££ from Microsoft for exclusivity
    - £££ from Elite subscriptions
    - £££ from DLC

    It's definitely a lesson in how to monetise something to the hilt. Where's the online pass? That'll be next.

  • 00.00.01 #18 4 weeks ago

    @GamesProgrammer
    Seems like it, on a PS3 you get it one month later, and on PC even two months! later... If I was to play this game on PC/PS3 and had subscribed to the Elite service, i would feel royally fu&%ed.
    And splitting 'Elite' content/DLC over platforms undermines the meaning of Elite.

  • weedar #19 4 weeks ago

    I despise this kind of competition. In stead of using money and resources on making one's own platform better, money is spent on making the gaming experience on the competitor's platform worse,and the loser is the customer.

    MS must get the money they wasted on this back from their customers, and the customers get NOTHING from this, other than the knowledge that people on other platforms cannot play it at the same time. And of course, the other gamers have to wait for content they could have played a month earlier...

    That is destructive competition as opposed to constructive competition where the competitors all keep improving their platform and the winner is the customer.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/12 @ 11:27

  • mastablasta #20 4 weeks ago

    Why buy multiplatform on a ps3? It always make sense to get the Xbox version.

  • EvilAspirin #21 4 weeks ago

    Just decided to read the T&C's for Elite and actually nowhere does it mention exclusivity between consoles, but one thing that does come up is the following:

    AVAILABILITY AND EXCLUSIVITY OF REMEDY
    Except as otherwise set forth herein, Activision does not guarantee that any particular content or features of the Service or any Service Provided Content will be available at all times or at any given time or that Activision will continue to offer the Service or any particular Service Provided Content) for any particular length of time. Activision may change and update the Service content without notice to you.

    and the following:

    Paid Membership Content. Certain Membership Plans may entitle you to download or otherwise access content such as map packs, avatar items, game modes, etc. (collectively, “Premium Membership Content”). The specific Premium Membership Content associated with your Membership Plan may vary, and will be set forth in the purchase materials when you purchase your Membership Plan (e.g., digital storefront information). Premium Membership Content is part of the Service Provided Content, and except as otherwise set forth in this Premium Membership Service Agreement section, shall be subject to the terms and conditions applicable to Service Provided Content as set forth in this Service Agreement.

    So reading between the lines Activision doesn't guarantee you anything, at any time, or for any length of time to download it. Your Membership Plan can also be different to someone else on Elite (I assume that's how they get around the exclusivity thing). While they'll tell you what you can expect to receive for your membership when you purchase it, they also reserve the right to change it without giving any notice to you.

    So, sounding like a good deal then?
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/12 @ 11:36

  • geeza2020 #22 4 weeks ago

    Anybody still buying these shitty, pus-filled, scabby excuses for games deserve everything they get. You knew you were getting into bed with those dead-inside corporate dicks at Activision, and guess what, they want a piece of your ass.

  • jrb #23 4 weeks ago

    I'm not sure how you can be ripped off if you're given everything you were promised when you signed up, for a price you agreed to. Purchase is not mandatory, but it seems whining about it is?

  • Triggerhappytel #24 4 weeks ago

    So what does Elite actually give consumers, aside from early access to DLC and the kind of stat-tracking Halo has been doing for free for about six years now?!

  • Ceatlan #25 4 weeks ago

    I don't see any ambiguity, the statement 'Subscribe to Elite and get the DLC before anybody else' obviously means 'non Elite subscribers' when it refers to 'anybody elses', and you still will be getting the DLC content before any non Elite subscribers. So you are getting exactly what it says on the tin.

    It may be bad PR, it may be using careful wording to get people to believe something they want to believe, rather than what is actually written, but it certainly isn't breaking any laws or contractual obligations.

    It is no different to any other form of advertising and promotion of products used all around the world in all different fields.

    Yes it sucks, but that is why you have to read everything carefully, question everything and don't take anything at face value. Alternatively you have to learn to put up with it or decide not to take part in the rampant capatilist society.

  • Nephirion #26 4 weeks ago

    Simple, boycott any publisher that signs an exclusivity deal with Microsoft.

  • UnblestCarpet #27 4 weeks ago

    Yeah that's all fine and well but maybe some clarity would have helped earlier for people who wrongly thought this....

    Glad I got off the COD train before this.

  • kirankara #28 4 weeks ago

    @Ceatlan "before anybody else" is far from clear. There's no reference to platform in their wording, and the term anybody, seems to denote that its in fact not limited to platforms, and that you do in fact get it before anybody else, if you are signed up to elite. There's no reference to exclusivity related deals or any other form of sub clauses.
    I'm sure legally they are solid in their stance,as this was no doubt a calculated move on their behalf to encourage innocent and naive individuals into signing up.I do however think its morally.dubious at best

  • kirankara #29 4 weeks ago

    @mastablasta why make stupid troll comments, that are completely pointless?

  • v.profane #30 4 weeks ago

    @Ceatlan If not buying Activision shit means I'm not taking part in "in the rampant capatilist society" then that must make me an Anarcho-syndicalist.

  • sickpuppysoftware #31 4 weeks ago

    The thing that's really upsetting isn't the exclusivity it's the fact that the PS3 user who signs up for 12 months elite at the same time as an xbox users ends up with less maps, trinkets, baubles etc at the end of their subscription. A subscription that costs the same price.

  • Ceatlan #32 4 weeks ago

    @kirankara.

    'Subscribe to Elite and get stuff before anybody else.'

    Surely that cannot mean anything other that get it before anybody who hasn't subscribed to Elite ?

    How could it mean anything else ?

    They can't say you will get it before any other Elite subscriber. All they can do is make sure that it is made available to all Elite subscribers before 'any' non subscribers.

    Yes, there is no mention that there may be prioritisation amongst Elite subscribers, which is being typical of all marketing, advertising and promotional material, in that you only mention the good points, and say nothing where it might come across as undesirable.

    So yes I agree with you entirely that they are being morally dubious, but I don't think there is any ambiguity, and I don't think they have done anything different to the vast majority of marketers and advertisers.

    I mean how many cars are advertised with performance and economy figures that could only ever be achieved on the rolling road in a science lab, and are nothing like what you will ever see on the real road. They aren't lying, they just aren't telling the whole truth. That philosophy is really what almost all 'selling' is based on. Tell the purchaser what you want them to know in order that you can get the sale. Don't tell them what they probably should know before buying, rely on waiting for them to ask the right questions first.

  • seeafish #33 4 weeks ago

    @mastablasta "Why buy multiplatform on a ps3? It always make sense to get the Xbox version."
    Because I have a PS3... seriously, it's not that hard to figure out.

    Personally I am off the CoD bandwagon. Friend coerced me into buying MW3, but I'm listing that rubbish on eBay right now.
    360 gamers who are fans of the series get the biggest slap in the face though:
    £45 for the game
    £36 for XBL
    £36 for Elite.
    = £117 to play a game that is essentially a glorified DLC pack.
    Activision have been incredibly efficient at draining money from their customers in recent years. Partnering them with Microsoft just makes for a horrible cocktail of greed.

  • kirankara #34 4 weeks ago

    @Ceatlan its that lack of clarity about elite heirarchy that I think isn't clear, and threats the vital point here. There's no qualification of this in their advertising of service,and its clearly deliberate. It should be explicit that this is in tandem with exclusivity deal in place giving one platform priority over rest. For me myself, makes no difference as I sold game , and had on 360, and would never subscribe to elite anyway. I also would have assumed this exclusivity deal was still in place, but there's probably many thousands out there who would not be aware of the exclusivity deal, who signed up to elite, especially new customers

  • youhavenomail #35 4 weeks ago

    Whether you're an Xbox, PS3 or PC gamer who paid for Elite, you should have cut your losses by now and accepted the game as the horrible, broken experience it is.

    It's time to bury COD and the greedy shits behind it. It was (incredible) fun while it lasted but it's no longer anywhere near good enough to continually put up with all this nonsense from Activision.

    Besides, everyone ends up skipping the DLC maps after two or three goes on them anyway.

  • huckan #36 4 weeks ago

    To be honest the delay in itself isn't the issue, it's more to do with that they'll have a new game out soon and this is cutting 1/8th of the time off of this DLC realistic usability time. Currents.

  • MrFunky #37 4 weeks ago

    Thank you for caring about pc owners, i'm so glad we never got the chance to get elite to get all the maps for a fair enough price.
    Luckily we get nothing but the possibilty of getting ripped off with a 3 maps for a 12 quid scheme probably incoming.
    Oh btw the pc version is shite.

  • peeps #38 4 weeks ago

    What i'm worried about now is does that mean ps3 elite wont get any content until after standard 360 owners can buy the first 'map pack' in march? If so that is bullshit lol

  • Bilstar #39 4 weeks ago

    @geeza2020 I agree. Acti were always gonna take the piss. After all, people have paid BEFORE theyve even seen what theyre buying. They must be mad.

  • Jay-ITFC #40 4 weeks ago

    Multiple paragraphs that could have been condensed to 1 sentence: "Because Microsoft gave us an enormous pile of cash!"

  • GamesConnoisseur #41 4 weeks ago

    Many reasons NOT to get X360 version of COD MW3

    - Don't have a X360
    - prefer friends list on PSN/PC
    - prefer control/TV set up of PS3

    Also of course vice versa can be true, X360 is the only console, or preferred friends list, control, or even the tired argument of a generally minor advantages of winning head to head comparison with PS3 and yet losing almost every time to PC version!

    Point is, out of all these reasons for picking X360/PS3/PC over other, how many actually bought game for the single purpose of the one month exclusivity? How many non X360 MW3 owners would buy the game again to run on X360 for that advantage?

    Pointless to spend money on timed exclusivity by any platform owners?! MS and Sony are two worse culprits this generation and how retailers getting in on the act for specific DLCs exclusivity?

    Hang them all, if in long run, they all see how very little actual difference to buying decision this make then we all be better off. DON'T let DLC exclusivity be a factor is the message.

  • phatpantz #42 4 weeks ago

    'We're not breaking any promises' is a typical legal response straight out of the common law books. This half-assed answer is a prime example of following the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law.

    Ultimately, one reason the law is in place to protect consumers from being ripped off by giant Corporations like Microsoft who want a monoppoly on a service. They tried to do this years ago with the Netscape/Explorer Browser wars and got fined millions of dollars for trying to crush the opposition by not allowing consumers to choose which browser the wanted on startup.

    It is true that the terms and conditions for the COD Elite service does not guarantee anything for any customer at anytime(no surpise there). But, the fact remains that if Xbox Live subscribers get access to exclusive content before anybody else (by at least a month) then it should state this in the terms and conditions so that PS3 and PC owners know what they are paying for.

    Clearly, Activision only allow this to happen because they must be getting an even bigger slice of the profits from Microsoft than they do from Sony. It is simply one reason for Microsoft to continue charging £35 a year for XBox Live which should be free in the first place. Activision also charge more to buy a COD game on release and for longer than most other games because they know they have a monopoly with this franchise.

    Activision may state that COD MW3 cost a lot more to make than Gears of War 3 therefore they can charge a higher price for this game. But, the movie Avatar cost a lot more to make than some low budget horror flick but they still charged customers the same at the box office. It was the sales that made Avatar a huge success and not by the greed of the publishers.

    With the huge success of EA games Battlefield 3 this is a perfect chance for them and other publishers to make sure ALL customers are treated the same by offering content at the same time regardless of the console or PC.

  • IXSpAcEMoNkEyXI #43 4 weeks ago

    Sigh...Why do they bother with these exclusivity deals? I'm sure most of us would prefer Microsoft investing in new IPs instead. Getting paid for not selling anything to anyone else? Del Boy would be proud...

  • Subdominator #44 4 weeks ago

    @bad09 You can only rip off people who let themselfs be ripped off. I don't feel sorry for the CoD crowd, they get what they deserve.

  • seeafish #45 4 weeks ago

    As a previous commenter mentioned, does this mean that if you paid for Elite on PC or PS3, you will get the DLC at the same time as non Elite 360 subscribers? If that's the case, then FU Activision. You just try to sell me another game... dicks.

  • Cjail #46 4 weeks ago

    An to think that very often Bobby Kotic says that he doesn't understand why Activision have such a bad reputation when it comes to customer policy...pathetic man.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/12 @ 13:36

  • Subdominator #47 4 weeks ago

    @Nephirion I thought the internet believes Microsoft has no exclusive games except Kinect. :D And for DLC: Xbox Live is the market leader for digital content. Xbox Live makes twice the revenue of PSN, so publishers have no choice if they want to make money. They have to be on XBL and they have to agree to their terms. For CoD it is even worse, Activision stated some months ago that 70 % of all revenue with CoD was done on Xbox Live.

  • Cobalt_Jackal #48 4 weeks ago

    @darkmorgado "Come off it, giving customers value for money has never exactly been Activision's or for that matter Microsoft's strong suit".

    Fixed that for you :).

  • weebl #49 4 weeks ago

    @Ace-Reject "i'm joking haven't played it so i can't comment"

    Thoughts like yours are rife and have been long before the game was even released, let alone after it received great reviews by all professional game sites and magazines.

  • kirankara #50 4 weeks ago

    @peeps wouldn't surprise me if out worked out that way

  • TooOldToGame #51 4 weeks ago

    Post deleted at 10:45:50 22-02-2012

  • roughsleeper #52 4 weeks ago

    GAME Salesmen in store were touting it when I went to buy Skyrim. Never played COD, and never will buy it, but that salesman in front of me clearly stated that you get all map packs on day one release to a PS3 player.
    I remember it because the guy was gonna spend £85 quid on the game plus elite thing which was astonishing in my mind and I had a voucher for Game and got Skyrim and the Guide for £30.

    Thats where the info came from in Sheffield anyway.

  • Ace-Reject #53 4 weeks ago

    @weebl i was just having a joke, i used to like call of duty before the first modern warfare.

  • TheEarlOfZinger #54 4 weeks ago

    They're c**ts. And that's why I don't buy their games.

    Thank god doom 4 is published by Bethesda.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/12 @ 14:57

  • Subdominator #55 4 weeks ago

    @TheEarlOfZinger The same Bethesda that brings out all DLC exclusive to 360 for the first month or is there another one?

  • Swole_Robot #56 4 weeks ago

    Sure, they might not have said "PS3 Elite users will get maps same time as 360 users" but i would argue that Activision was morally obliged to make this fact explicitly clear, something they failed to do.When you also remember that MW3 is a game marketed towards people who dont particularly follow game news or even buy a lot of games the issue becomes even sketchier. It is a lie of omission and basically amounts to false advertising.

    Also what the fuck is up with the intro to this article? Like gasp! How about a little bit of maturity when reporting a massive companies immoral exploitation of consumers ffs?

  • alexbulluk #57 4 weeks ago

    So it goes
    > Xbox Elite
    > Xbox
    > PS3 Elite
    > PS3

    Wow, Activision - you know how to please your paying customers.
    I vow never to buy CoD DLC until all platforms get it at the same time - and that includes PC.

  • sir_smooch #58 4 weeks ago

    well if these kind of comments doesn't show people what kind of exploitation of consumers by publishers then i dont know what will. i have both consoles (well ps3 just died...but still!) and i got elite for neither. First off i didn't like the idea of paying for something months in advance of actually recieving anything,even game pre orders only charge you for the game when it ships out! and secondly if the the exclusivity deal for cod was made before elite existed,then why is the sub constrained by it?? unless ms included all properties related to the franchise were tied to it. Either way how can you make two different people pay the same price but make one wait longer than the other to get and not see how that is unjust. Put it this way its like having 2 children of similar age...as they say "you can't give one without giving the other" and you wouldn't favour one of your children over the other would you? Mr Amrich......surely.
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/12 @ 17:35

  • wattsn26 #59 4 weeks ago

    Whoever this guy is he even types words like a complete tool, PS3 Elite owners are getting ripped off, they're paying $50 to get the DLC free and on time at the same time as 360 owners...

    And if he is tired of people asking then why not just put that front and center on the Elite website? And why didn't they say this before the app was released on PSN?
    Edited by 1 at 27/01/12 @ 16:25

  • DwarfyP #60 4 weeks ago

    Sheeesh, a lot of people on this site don't half bitch and moan.

    If you don't like CoD why keep posting on CoD related articles, f**k off and play a game you do like instead. No one gives a damn what you think.

    Those who think it is a rip off, grow up and LISTEN to what you are told. You KNEW Microsoft had a deal with content long before Elite happened. Just because Elite came along doesn't change that.

  • sir_smooch #61 4 weeks ago

    @DwarfyP dude. i don't think its that people don't like cod. they probably love cod and thats the problem. I think some peeps feel like they are getting a raw deal. Wether its right or wrong and even if its legal it doesn't mean its fair. And even though there was a deal they (activision) could have explained to the ps3 cod community exactly how their subs would work. lets face it its not like they have only just thought up elite is it thats why peeps are moaning because they have payed their money and are now only just findong out how they are gonna get their service!

  • 4cough #62 4 weeks ago

    If you really like Call of duty? Then you really are doing yourself an injustice playing it on anything other than 360.

  • jackdoe #63 4 weeks ago

    @spacedelete
    It sounds to be exactly the case. Which is hilarious.

  • Dave52 #64 4 weeks ago

    I would have possibly considered Elite. I really do love COD and MW3 is great fun to play. But, as a PS3 owner, it's shit like this that makes me think Fuck It. I will buy the DLC but in my own good time thanks very much.

  • Dave52 #65 4 weeks ago

    @Eurocensor "The game performs better on the 360"

    Does it...? It seems to perform excellently on the PS3, I can't believe that the XBox version is noticeably better. Don't quote me DF articles, I really can't be bothered...

  • Mentat_Idaho #66 4 weeks ago

    This whole 'subscribe to get maps first' thing seems less like getting something early, and more like everyone else getting something late. They are basically holding completed contect back. It makes no sense for the consumer in my opinion.

    And for those saying that if you don't like CoD, don't comment - I personally didn't get CoD this time, but what's to stop this kind of crap being pulled on other franchises I DO still buy? If this experiment succeeds expect to see many more games and publishers following suit.

  • Dave52 #67 4 weeks ago

    @Mentat_Idaho There aren't many franchises as popular as COD. Maybe FIFA...? COD can do this because of its popularity...

  • WadiumArcadium #68 4 weeks ago

    If you buy CoD you're being ripped off. 'Nuff said.

  • brider #69 4 weeks ago

    @spacedelete All COD boys do have a big sign on there back saying F***me.
    thats why activision keep on doing it and laughing in there faces and the cod boys roll over and take it
    All you people who keep buying these stupid cut and paste COD games even activision knows that your sheep and will basicly buy any steaming pile of turd they squat out as long as its got COD written on it

  • Stratix #70 4 weeks ago

    Have you seen the price of those map packs? It's all right, because everyone gets ripped off equally.

  • Lord_Gremlin #71 4 weeks ago

    There are enough idiots around. Even turd in a box will sell if branded properly. Depressing.
    Thankfully I've no interest in CoD.

  • geeza2020 #72 3 weeks ago

    Can someone ban this pathetic moron please?