EA: Wii U can do "anything" PS3, 360 can
More powerful is "our hope".
Newly received dev kits have increased EA Sports' belief that Wii U can do "anything" that PS3 and Xbox 360 can do, vice president Andrew Wilson informed Eurogamer.
"The short answer is yes [we have a better idea of Wii U's power]; the longer answer is not quite," said Wilson.
"As every new piece of hardware and every new development library comes through we get a greater understanding of the power. With our early research we had been very happy with the output of the box and we expect that that will only go up moving forward.
"There are added challenges for us as developers when you think about rendering on two screens and what that might mean, but we're looking forward to that challenge.
"It's still moving," he added, "but I think we'll be able to do anything that we can do on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on the Wii U."
The Wii U will be released, officially, after April 2012. Unofficially, Eurogamer can narrow that date to after August, as Darksiders II is a confirmed Wii U launch title, and still over a year away.
"It's still moving, but I think we'll be able to do anything that we can do on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on the Wii U."
Andrew Wilson, vice president, EA Sports
Xbox 360 launched in late 2005, and PS3 launched in late 2006 (March 2007 in Europe). More than five years on, can Wii U not go beyond what PS3 and 360 are capable of?
"I think that's our hope," answered Wilson, "but again we're still in the early stages."
A large question lingers around what the online capabilities of Wii U will be. Wilson wouldn't say whether new dev kits reveal more online Wii U functionality, but did highlight an "openness and willingness" by Nintendo to listen to their developer and publisher partners.
There are people at EA "under very strict NDAs" that are working those online Wii U systems out with Nintendo.
"[Online is] something that we're working very closely with Nintendo on," said Wilson. "We are highlighting to them what we believe are the most important elements to that infrastructure to deliver a connected experience that we think is the future of gaming.
"We have a series of people who are under very strict NDAs as you can imagine, operating with [Nintendo], building that [online] system out."
Andrew Wilson
"They have demonstrated an openness and willingness to work with us and work with developers that I think will only land us in a positive place.
"We're working through the development with them now," he added. "We have a series of people who are under very strict NDAs as you can imagine, operating with them, building that system out."
FIFA 13 will likely be a Wii U launch title, but could be separated, in terms of release date, from the other FIFA 13 SKUs. "The timing of that VIP party [Wii U launch] is largely dependent on Nintendo," said Wilson, "which we're waiting to hear like everyone.
"We're preparing development and we will make a judgement-call on the timing of that and how it relates to the other platforms once they have a better idea of when they're launching."
Wilson said development of FIFA 13 on Wii U has not begun.
"Not yet," Wilson remarked. "We are in pre-production for everything on FIFA, so we have our long-lead team thinking about Kinect ... Wii U ... What FIFA looks like on PS3, PC, Xbox 360 in general. But the core team is still finaling FIFA 12. So it's very much an early pre-production ideation phase right now."
The Wii U.
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*Player dependant feature.
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Oh wait, no it isn't! It isn't 2006 anymore; this isn't a feature you'd want to champion given that it's 2011 and those consoles are 5/6 years old.
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When the new Playstation and Xbox get released, Nintendo will have a console which gets crappy 3rd party support again.
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For the same reason you need a PS3 and Xbox 360; first party exclusives.
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Just sayin'.
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I would have expected developers to be banging their drums about how it's more powerful than 360 and PS3 right about now. But err, they're not.
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a next gen console thats hopefully as powerful as current gen consoles.
which is 6 years old ninty, remember....
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still don't like that controller. it's over the top and will push the cost right up. remember the six axis... i'm sure if sony seen into the future, and even though it wasn't as costly as the wii-u controller, they wouldn't have included that gimmicky feature... almost no-one 'embraced' it. the dreamcasts VMU was another wasteful gimmick.
i just want to finally play nintendo games in HD, so i won't be looking at a crappy small screen. i think it will be a big mistake, but nintendo needs a gimmick... this shows they are running out of ideas.
an expensive console that does nothing new - or does what everyones iphone/mobile device can already do, equals a fail.
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I'd say that is going to be more of a task than simply releasing more powerful hardware.
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i feel it will push the price up too high for me, and all in the name of have some 'unique' selling point like the wii had... it will probably do well to begin with, but i feel a crash and burn coming on.
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For example, if you want online gaming on the sofa you might consider a Xbox 360. If you would like to see some of the games from the PS2 era countined you might consider a PS3. Or perhaps you just want games to look at good as possible and want raw power in which case look at the PC.
The Wii U, USP is basically a gimmick second screen at this point i do not think it will be the power that will make it flop but rather not find a niche crowd for the gimmick or levearging it correctly. As stated in the other comments if they just posistion it as 'another console, just like the ps3/360' then it will fail.
On a semi related note I noticed the other day that Nintendo have changed tactic with the 3DS marketting. They started with trying to go after the casual crowd and was simlier to the wii adverts. However i saw a advert stating 'more powerful' 'true next generation' 'its not a DS'.
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Shouldn't that be "Wii U can do things the PS3, 360 can't"? Otherwise, what's the point?
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And about 1/10th what a modern PC can do.
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Argh ! Bloody work catch phrases on EG.
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Nintendo just announced that controller because they knew if they come out at E3, announce new hardware to be out seven years after Xbox 360 and then admit that it's only as powerful as an Xbox they could go bury themself. It's like Wii Vitality sensor all over again, they announce a product because they have no games to show and have no idea how that product can be turned into something useful.
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They need to feel better about themselves, and like any other village mob in human history, they need something to bully. And there is nothing that's going to stop them.
I usually just sit back and watch the spectacle unfold.
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I'm not saying it brings nothing new to the table, there are obviously things you can do with it, just so far nothing worthwhile. They're going to be in a very awkward situation in 2-3 years when the new Sony and MS consoles come out too... They'll have been on the market for one, maybe two years, then they get left behind again, and all the new games on the next PS3/360 won't be portable to the Wii U, and third party dries up...
I really don't see a way out of this cycle unless they kill off the Wii U early and join the next, next gen race, or if they sit out a few years then rejoin the race at the same time as their competitors. This tech catchup game they're playing is a dangerous one that might always result in a dearth of third party support as games developed on newer consoles can'tbe ported.
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Hmm nope, developers themselves have stated that the screen is something that has obvious useful applications in almost any game, ones that can easily be added without much effort, unlike motion controls which require changes to the game on a much deeper level.
So yeah. No.
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(Even though Eurogamer virgin's know jack)
Jus sayin'...
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That’s why I think the Wii U is a good thing; the backward compatibility with Wii peripherals and software will make the console an instant hit with the casual gamer and the ability to use the second screen for inventories and HUD will be a bonus for the core gamer.
My comment “Nintendo are not in direct competition with Microsoft and Sony” was in reference to the next generation. Nintendo don’t need to follow suite in “Graphic wars” the 5 year Wii U cycle will enable Nintendo fans to enjoy the best of both worlds for a while. When the Next Box and PS4 are in a similar position as they are in todays’ market; Nintendo can launch another cost effective console as the price of similar components will be low.
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Cold comfort when all the PS3 and Xbox 360 are doing is being succeeded by the latest iteration of Sony/ Msoft hardware.
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"It’s beginning to get rather tedious all the negative comments in reference to every Wii U article. First of all Nintendo are not in direct competition with Microsoft and Sony; the Wii U is a high definition Wii console with an innovating controller, those who can’t see the potential of the new controller are stuck in a “Time warp of hypocrisy” wanting state of the art graphics with an antiquated control system."
TBH its hilarious how the Nintendo fanboys crawl out of the woodwork and neg or flame anyone who dares to question their ultimate authority. Nintendo jumped into the casual crowd, and gave the finger to the hardcore. Nintendo's quickly losing the hardcore to Apple and smartphones, while the core are happy with Sony and Microsoft, and now they desperately want us back. Well, they can stick their 'innovating controller', that 3rd parties are sure to not use the 'potential' of, and keep churning out fitness and party games. They'll be having cleaning games next, with the Nintendo fanboys championing it as 'innovation', saying how it shows that cleaning can be fun.
And the Ninty fans around the web bragging this things more powerful than a PS3/360. Ninty fans bragging about power... yeah...
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online ID's?
6 years old back catalogue of boxed and dowloadable games?
Actual stream of game releases?
New exciting franchises?
HD collections?
yeah *sneers*
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And as far as Core games go if you dont already own a 360/Ps3/PC over the last 6 years I feel bad for you.
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The more I hear about Wii U the less excited I am about it.
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Am I actually flaming anyone? It’s pathetic when so called adults are making playground comments on a toy and let’s face it, all consoles are toys. Juveniles who are masquerading as men trying to justify their allegiance to a company or product; as they believe their purchase has more adult and core games. If gamers believe that Microsoft and Sony will deliver next generation; they need to ask themselves “What the f*ck went wrong this generation?”
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Doesnt give us much confidence really.
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Hehe.
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Hahahahahahaha!
As if you ever needed more proof that the trolls who flock to every nintendo article are a bunch of drooling retards...
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Please, if I have to point out this base level error, then I'm off back to IGN for an intelligent conversation; at least most of the posters there have the excuse of begin young and stupid, once you a bit older though, you are just stupid... not good... (HAHAHA, OMFG!!!!)
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I never said that you specifically were flaming anyone, more than Nintendo fans in general do it (and i've been flamed on this site myself for criticising Nintendo, constructively I might add), and they do. Yes, I do agree that 'playground comments' are pathetic... saying thinks like 'Wii puu' and getting the thumbs up says it all.
However, the PS3/360 DOES have more adult/core games than the Wii. And by adult, I don't mean 'super sweary military FPS, I mean games like Assassins Creed and Dead Space, which lets face it, are meant for adults, and not children. You cannot deny that the Wii has much, much, much less. Yeah, the Wii U is getting some, but ports of PS3/360 games that will be bought by the fans on the consoles they own now doesn't say much, really.
And 'what went wrong this generation'? Besides the influx of casual gamers courtesy of Nintendo and Apple, and devs realising with the internet they can 'ship now, (maybe) patch later', alongside the rise of FPS gaming, not much really.
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So I'm not going to listen to either sides until I see the system for myself.
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June 2011: "WiiU is at least as powerful as PS360."
July 2011: "We think WiiU can do anything PS360 can, but don't quote us on that."
January 2012: "Look! The power button is GREEN!"
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Try screen tearing, frame rate issues, online lag, these extras weren’t promised but were available in most games at no extra cost. I’m still waiting for the “Toy Story” like graphics.
The Wii U will be the worst console ever with only having Xbox 360 and PS3 like graphics; it will look hideous next to the Xbox Next and PS4 running games in 1080p at 60fps with Avatar like graphics. Who wants to play Mario, Metroid, Pikmin and any other kiddie Nintendo title in HD when all the best games will be on the next generation Microsoft and Sony machines? I won’t be spending £300 on a silly kid’s toy, when the real next generation is just around the corner.
You know people write shit like the above in Wii U related articles and receive +60 or whatever in the comments. If people aren’t interested in Nintendo products why even comment? You have some members on E/G claiming there’s no justification in purchasing a console that is only capable of this generation graphics; when in the next breath they are contemplating whether to buy the Gears or Star Wars special edition Xbox 360 or both?
The problem Nintendo have with the Wii U; is if it is indeed more powerful than the current generation and they are reluctant to release the specifications, 3rd party developers may use the “Wii U can do anything the PS3, 360 can” as an excuse to port games with little or no enhancements. Personally I have very little interest in ports; I normally choose my multiplatform purchases on review scores and on which version comes out on top. The Wii U port would have to be something special to warrant a second purchase; if I have already owned and completed the title on the PS3 or Xbox 360.
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They really are just too stupid in the head. Iwata, Reggie, all the high up people in Nintendo would need to leave for anything to change.
Although I shouldn't jump the gun since the Wii U isn't out yet, but the name Wii U already tells me they haven't learned much. And those goddamn circle pads on the Wii U controller.... and no evidence of a traditional controller being released (No I'm not going to use the Classic Controller because I shouldn't have to freakin plug it into a Wii remote!)
Nintendo are always behind in everything. With the Wii U now, they'll be 3 generations without a harddrive in their console... thats something the FIRST Xbox was able to achieve...... I guess all them Nintendo fans will have to wait 4 generations.....
The Wii U will be alright up until PS4 and next Xbox get released, then it'll lose 3rd party support and just end up like the Wii. Nintendo forced themselves into this position. The Wii was incredibly weak, which has now forced them to release a new console too early and because of that they're 2 years behind in tech.
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And personally there is no doubt in my mind that the DS was a far better console than any home console this generation. Power is not everything.
Also graphics whores... the truth is that many developers do not even want to move on. They want to make the current gen last longer. So to everyone saying that Wii U will be ignored in favor of super powerful next gen consoles is a bit backwards compared to what I read from developers. It seems more likely to me that those consoles will be ignored in favour of Wii U, PS3 and 360.
Though that will also be down to how much people buy. Everyone seems to think Ninty abandoned the hardcore... but the truth is that a lot of the hardcore had already abandoned Nintendo 15 years ago when Playstation landed. You only have yourselves and fellow gamers to blame. Nintendo weren't getting the results they needed by staying true to the hardcore and so they went and changed it up to try for better results.
The trouble they have with their current model is their relationships with third parties. Wii U is them trying to fix that. They are really giving the devs what they want. If third parties don't perform well on Wii U then support will stop for it by everyone but Nintendo. Third parties make or break a console for a lot of core gamers these days.
I hope for one hope they succeed and am really appalled by how many people are so negative on them for trying their best to please everyone. Sure the fact is they might end up pleasing nobody by going for everybody... but at least wait until the thing is on the shelves before writing it off!
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Antiquated control system? The PS3/360 controllers give FAR better control than the Wii. As for the Wii U controller, no-one really knows what that's capable of yet.
You're like some kind of pre-emptive fanboy. You go on about how "people" don't buy the Wii because of this, that and the other - yet all you're doing is making assumptions. Ever though that a lot of people didn't buy the Wii because, shock, it didn't have that many games that appealed to them? Many think the Wii U could go the same way, hence many of the (perhaps premature) negativity.
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but really how the fook hard would it be to create something better than a PS3 or and XBOX360 by a small margin of 1,5 or 2 times better, keep cost exceptionally low and draw hardcores back with a digestable image quality that we be the best around for the next year or two.
the fact that this issue is still debatable is ridicullous, ninty is shooting themselves in the foot for no apparent reason.
we can only hope they are going to pleasantly surprise us...even though that hasn't happened since the SNES days
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Still, raw power means nothing as this generation has already shown (hands up anyone who thinks either MS or Sony wouldn't swap places with Nintendo right now given the opportunity), so it all be about the software again.
If they can capture third parties, then they have a hit on their hands. One box that plays the best third party titles alongside the Nintendo first party stuff is clearly not a bad proposition.
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In this case I'm going to have to say that Nintendo's penny pinching hardware strategy is finally catching up with them. Nothing they bring out has the power to wow people beyond a few months. My Wii gathers dust and never get's used. My 3DS has zero games for it and I have no interest in buying a console that will only match my 360 and ps3. The irony is that Microsoft have already said that the 720 (or whatever it will be called once marketting get through with it) is coming soon!
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Also I don't see how its different from a PS3 running on remote control sending e.g Lair ( ps3 game ) to psp where ever you were through a decent connection and not in the same room.
of course it might be able to do it better than psp/ps3 connection ( i ll doubt a bit the PS3/vita connection) but its not a groundbreaking proof of power.
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I personally think that the Wii U is a fantastic concept. The gameplay options offered up by its tech look marvellous.
The only issue is that I'm unlikely to buy it until 2015 when it's dirt cheap, unless it really dazzles me with the tech. The REASON for this, is that I currently own a 360, PS3, Wii and a decent gaming PC.
The Wii U wont play Blu Rays, it probably wont support DLNA, it obviously wont support Xbox live, it's looking more and more like it wont have more than 1GB RAM, it has no hard drive, it'll have a broken Nintendo online system, etc...
The only one of my systems that it looks like it can replace, is the Wii, and I ONLY bought that because I got it dirt cheap (£60 with Mario Kart Wii, Monkey Ball and a wheel).
Now - I'd love for it to dazzle me with 2-6GB RAM, better or equal to 360/PS3 visuals at 1080p/60fps with optional 3D, and a FANTASTIC, unmissable new online system that lets Valve do what they did with Sony on Portal 2, etc...
Untill this stuff gets announced, and is set in stone, then they can't expect the hardcore to get behind them in any meaningful way.
This is the Internet, and we react to what we think, and what we read.
There are some fantastic potential gameplay concepts that the Wii U can bring, however. Can't wait until its actually been finished and there's a release date within a few weeks / months. Then I'll get excited.
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I'm a bit confused by what you've said there - it makes no sense. The 'bird garden' demo Nintendo had running on the show floor at E3 did *exactly* what I mentioned - it had one image on the TV screen, and a separate, independent image of the same scene (i.e from a different viewpoint which could be moved around) on the Wii U screen.
EDIT: The Ubisoft Ghost Recon game also showed the same thing at points: main game screen on the TV, and the camera feed from the drone being shown on the Wii U screen.
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When did I say "This?"
The Wii has been a great success for Nintendo and by the time the Wii U launches sales will probably surpass the PlayStation 1; making the Wii the second best selling home console behind the phenomenal sales of the PlayStation 2. If the Wii U achieves a similar success then Nintendo will be laughing all the way to the bank “Again.”
I’m not a fanboy of any particular brand I’m a fan of video games in general. I’m not blinkered “I say it how I see it.” Personally I thought that the Nintendo E3 Wii U Presentation was an “Absolute joke” also the 1st party support for the Wii has been almost non-existent; with Nintendo leaving it to 3rd party developers to keep interest in the Wii console alive, with casual titles like Just Dance and Zumba Fitness.
The only gripe I have is every time someone makes a statement concerning the Wii U the Anti-Nintendo Brigade are there like flies on hot shit; making their assumptions on the actual power or lack of power in the Wii U console. It would be in Nintendo’s best interest to release the machines specifications; all this speculation could be damaging if the console has less power than first anticipated.
Even though I like the idea of the Wii U I’m still a bit sceptical; is the controller a smoke screen to hype up the price of a console with old technology? Or will the controller be innovating and enhance the gaming experience? As things stand I’m open minded and I would love to play the likes of Mario Galaxy 3, Wave Race, Pikmin etc. in 1080p. I only hope that 3rd party support won’t be a multitude of mediocre PS360 ports in 720p with a £45 price tag; when the same game is available in the bargain bin for £15.