EA: Wii U can do "anything" PS3, 360 can

More powerful is "our hope".

Newly received dev kits have increased EA Sports' belief that Wii U can do "anything" that PS3 and Xbox 360 can do, vice president Andrew Wilson informed Eurogamer.

"The short answer is yes [we have a better idea of Wii U's power]; the longer answer is not quite," said Wilson.

"As every new piece of hardware and every new development library comes through we get a greater understanding of the power. With our early research we had been very happy with the output of the box and we expect that that will only go up moving forward.

"There are added challenges for us as developers when you think about rendering on two screens and what that might mean, but we're looking forward to that challenge.

"It's still moving," he added, "but I think we'll be able to do anything that we can do on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on the Wii U."

The Wii U will be released, officially, after April 2012. Unofficially, Eurogamer can narrow that date to after August, as Darksiders II is a confirmed Wii U launch title, and still over a year away.

"It's still moving, but I think we'll be able to do anything that we can do on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on the Wii U."

Andrew Wilson, vice president, EA Sports

Xbox 360 launched in late 2005, and PS3 launched in late 2006 (March 2007 in Europe). More than five years on, can Wii U not go beyond what PS3 and 360 are capable of?

"I think that's our hope," answered Wilson, "but again we're still in the early stages."

A large question lingers around what the online capabilities of Wii U will be. Wilson wouldn't say whether new dev kits reveal more online Wii U functionality, but did highlight an "openness and willingness" by Nintendo to listen to their developer and publisher partners.

There are people at EA "under very strict NDAs" that are working those online Wii U systems out with Nintendo.

"[Online is] something that we're working very closely with Nintendo on," said Wilson. "We are highlighting to them what we believe are the most important elements to that infrastructure to deliver a connected experience that we think is the future of gaming.

"We have a series of people who are under very strict NDAs as you can imagine, operating with [Nintendo], building that [online] system out."

Andrew Wilson

"They have demonstrated an openness and willingness to work with us and work with developers that I think will only land us in a positive place.

"We're working through the development with them now," he added. "We have a series of people who are under very strict NDAs as you can imagine, operating with them, building that system out."

FIFA 13 will likely be a Wii U launch title, but could be separated, in terms of release date, from the other FIFA 13 SKUs. "The timing of that VIP party [Wii U launch] is largely dependent on Nintendo," said Wilson, "which we're waiting to hear like everyone.

"We're preparing development and we will make a judgement-call on the timing of that and how it relates to the other platforms once they have a better idea of when they're launching."

Wilson said development of FIFA 13 on Wii U has not begun.

"Not yet," Wilson remarked. "We are in pre-production for everything on FIFA, so we have our long-lead team thinking about Kinect ... Wii U ... What FIFA looks like on PS3, PC, Xbox 360 in general. But the core team is still finaling FIFA 12. So it's very much an early pre-production ideation phase right now."

The Wii U.

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  • HL706 #1 10 months ago

    Awesome, but I've already got a PS3, Xbox 360 and an Etch-A-Sketch - why do I need this again?
  • Thunderbolt #2 10 months ago

    Nice but not good enough for me sadly
  • anss123 #3 10 months ago

    Anything? Can it sound like a vacuum cleaner on steroids? My Xbox is very good at this.
  • wizlon #4 10 months ago

    New feature for Fifa 13 on WiiU, lift the controller up to the screen to see through the eyes of a superstar footballer... everything has a price tag attached to it, other players WAGs will be highlighted Predator style* and anyone of any importance, including most of the crowd, will be invisible.

    *Player dependant feature.
    Edited by wizlon at 27/07/11 @ 15:17
  • MiniAmin #5 10 months ago

    Well done Nintendo, that's absolutely incredible!

    Oh wait, no it isn't! It isn't 2006 anymore; this isn't a feature you'd want to champion given that it's 2011 and those consoles are 5/6 years old.
  • captain_Carl #6 10 months ago

    Basically what HL706 said. I already have a console that can do the same as a PS3 and 360. It's called a PS3.
  • StuDevo #7 10 months ago

    So 6 yr old tech is good?
    When the new Playstation and Xbox get released, Nintendo will have a console which gets crappy 3rd party support again.
  • Sid-Nice #8 10 months ago

    Awesome, but I've already got a PS3, Xbox 360 and an Etch-A-Sketch - why do I need this again?

    For the same reason you need a PS3 and Xbox 360; first party exclusives.
  • CaptainQuint #9 10 months ago

    I reckon Nintendo have a console flop on their hands this time around.

    Just sayin'.
  • Bertie Verified Senior Staff Writer, Eurogamer.net #10 10 months ago

    I get that the next-generation will be less about powerful new hardware to last years and more about online and possibilities for incremental updates, but I can't help feeling a little let down by Wii U.

    I would have expected developers to be banging their drums about how it's more powerful than 360 and PS3 right about now. But err, they're not.
  • HyperTails #11 10 months ago

    The problem with the Wii U is that its not clear who its aimed at. The Wii is casual, and its aimed at them. The Wii U looks casual but Nintendo seem to be making a lot of noise about getting the hardcore on board, with games that we'll be buying on our current systems. So why would I want to buy a Wii, to play games I can buy on my PS3 (or to play Nintendo's games that don't appeal to me), when I can wait for the PS4?
  • Pwnsweet #12 10 months ago

    This is excellent news. The sooner Nintendo die and stop making hardware the better. This news, coupled with the fact that the 3DS is a failure means that day is closer than ever to coming to fruition.
  • gandhimaster #13 10 months ago

    excellent.

    a next gen console thats hopefully as powerful as current gen consoles.

    which is 6 years old ninty, remember....
  • anthonypappa #14 10 months ago

    nintendo consoles are for 1st party games, and those games favour cartoony graphics... so lots of power isn't so important.

    still don't like that controller. it's over the top and will push the cost right up. remember the six axis... i'm sure if sony seen into the future, and even though it wasn't as costly as the wii-u controller, they wouldn't have included that gimmicky feature... almost no-one 'embraced' it. the dreamcasts VMU was another wasteful gimmick.

    i just want to finally play nintendo games in HD, so i won't be looking at a crappy small screen. i think it will be a big mistake, but nintendo needs a gimmick... this shows they are running out of ideas.

    an expensive console that does nothing new - or does what everyones iphone/mobile device can already do, equals a fail.
    Edited by anthonypappa at 27/07/11 @ 15:53
  • flaming.carrot #15 10 months ago

    Nintendo have a hell of a lot of catching up to do in the online services area. Sony have been working for years on theirs and they still haven't nailed it (and MS had a huge advantage for the Xbox in coming from a PC and solid online services background in the first place).

    I'd say that is going to be more of a task than simply releasing more powerful hardware.
  • anthonypappa #16 10 months ago

    the news that they are not selling the controller seperate sounded a bit retarded... but actually i think they are hiding how much money goes towards just the controller when you buy a console.

    i feel it will push the price up too high for me, and all in the name of have some 'unique' selling point like the wii had... it will probably do well to begin with, but i feel a crash and burn coming on.
    Edited by anthonypappa at 27/07/11 @ 16:04
  • riseer #17 10 months ago

    Thanks but no thanks Nintendo my Ps3 is great and i am sure most of the 360 peeps think theirs is great as well.I just never liked how some devs called WiiU a stop gap.Getting a Vita for my gaming on the go and i will be happy with it.
  • Dannyboy1100 #18 10 months ago

    I wouldn't be suprised if the vita was more powerful than the WiiU
  • gandhimaster #19 10 months ago

    i should add that i'm not sure horsepower is that important to nintendo, BUT the moment its mentioned as a selling point it fails for reasons we all stated here.
    Edited by gandhimaster at 27/07/11 @ 16:17
  • Arwin #20 10 months ago

    Would be sad if it wasn't, but I'm still a bit worried that this only means that EA internal studios can get similar or better performance out of the Wii as they can get out of the PS3 and 360, which to me doesn't mean very much. :p
  • joelstinton #21 10 months ago

    make it ps3.5 in terms of graphics/power and it be good for the consumer, and the developers.
  • Sharzam #22 10 months ago

    Every platform has its own USP. It is basically down to the consumer which of these USP appeals to them as an indivual.

    For example, if you want online gaming on the sofa you might consider a Xbox 360. If you would like to see some of the games from the PS2 era countined you might consider a PS3. Or perhaps you just want games to look at good as possible and want raw power in which case look at the PC.

    The Wii U, USP is basically a gimmick second screen at this point i do not think it will be the power that will make it flop but rather not find a niche crowd for the gimmick or levearging it correctly. As stated in the other comments if they just posistion it as 'another console, just like the ps3/360' then it will fail.

    On a semi related note I noticed the other day that Nintendo have changed tactic with the 3DS marketting. They started with trying to go after the casual crowd and was simlier to the wii adverts. However i saw a advert stating 'more powerful' 'true next generation' 'its not a DS'.
  • JahB #23 10 months ago

    The more news they release, the more the Wii u looks like another game cube.
  • smelly #24 10 months ago

    Im just posting this to troll that the wii u is underpowered - despite the article actually saying that the guy doesnt know how powerful it will be... But hey - at least it'll get me some thumbs up!
  • kingnothing12 #25 10 months ago

    But the gamecube was great, it just didn't ignite sales wise.
  • mrboshingles #26 10 months ago

    Anything you can do,I can do better. I can do anything Better than you. No, you can't. Yes, I can. No, you can't. Yes, I can. No, you can't. Yes, I can, Yes, I can! Anything you can be I can be greater. Sooner or later, I'm greater than you. No, you're not. Yes, I am. No, you're not. Yes, I am. No, you're NOT.
  • slippysloppy #27 10 months ago

    EA: Wii U can do "anything" PS3, 360 can

    Shouldn't that be "Wii U can do things the PS3, 360 can't"? Otherwise, what's the point?
  • chris_ace #28 10 months ago

    Post deleted at 11:55:13 13-12-2011
  • kar #29 10 months ago

    Wow it can do the same thing as 5 and 6 year old consoles.

    And about 1/10th what a modern PC can do.
  • Sid-Nice #30 10 months ago

    It’s beginning to get rather tedious all the negative comments in reference to every Wii U article. First of all Nintendo are not in direct competition with Microsoft and Sony; the Wii U is a high definition Wii console with an innovating controller, those who can’t see the potential of the new controller are stuck in a “Time warp of hypocrisy” wanting state of the art graphics with an antiquated control system.
  • uzivatel #31 10 months ago

    EA being happy about WiiU online capabilities is bad sign.
  • bdaggers #32 10 months ago

    'ideation'

    Argh ! Bloody work catch phrases on EG.
  • Subdominator #33 10 months ago

    Of course they are competing with Microsoft and Sony. You think they are happy about Kinect/Move? Their sales began to rapidly go down when that tech was announced. With Wii U they basically make a multiplatform console in a market where the HD sector is pretty much divided. I don't see people abandoning their gamertags for Wii U just to be able to do exactly the same thing with it. Cause the screen controller will be as useless in games as Move/Kinect and any other gadget. Multiplatform games are built with what every platform has in common in mind. The tablet will be used to display maps or inventories but it won't change the way we play games.

    Nintendo just announced that controller because they knew if they come out at E3, announce new hardware to be out seven years after Xbox 360 and then admit that it's only as powerful as an Xbox they could go bury themself. It's like Wii Vitality sensor all over again, they announce a product because they have no games to show and have no idea how that product can be turned into something useful.
  • Nikanoru #34 10 months ago

    @Sid Nice: it's very brave of you to try and stand up to this enormous stream of incessant whining and childish trolling by all these incredible mouthbreathers, but there's no point.

    They need to feel better about themselves, and like any other village mob in human history, they need something to bully. And there is nothing that's going to stop them.

    I usually just sit back and watch the spectacle unfold. ;)
  • FenderMaster #35 10 months ago

    Aside from asymetric local multiplayer, i don't really see what the Wii U brings to the table. We've already seen the demo of the golf game where you put your pad on the floor so it looks like a Tee, but was that just a visual or can the Wii U remote tell whether the Wii remote is aligned with the ball? I'm guessing the latter, in which case it adds nothing at all to gaming, nor does sliding a ninja star off the screen. The use of the remote as a scope for a gun (a la Silent Scope looks a little interesting, but hardly a game changer. Aside from that all we've heard is devs taking the HUD or mini map off the main screen DS style, which imo is worse, since it gives you two screens to watch.

    I'm not saying it brings nothing new to the table, there are obviously things you can do with it, just so far nothing worthwhile. They're going to be in a very awkward situation in 2-3 years when the new Sony and MS consoles come out too... They'll have been on the market for one, maybe two years, then they get left behind again, and all the new games on the next PS3/360 won't be portable to the Wii U, and third party dries up...

    I really don't see a way out of this cycle unless they kill off the Wii U early and join the next, next gen race, or if they sit out a few years then rejoin the race at the same time as their competitors. This tech catchup game they're playing is a dangerous one that might always result in a dearth of third party support as games developed on newer consoles can'tbe ported.
  • Nikanoru #36 10 months ago

    Cause the screen controller will be as useless in games as Move/Kinect and any other gadget.

    Hmm nope, developers themselves have stated that the screen is something that has obvious useful applications in almost any game, ones that can easily be added without much effort, unlike motion controls which require changes to the game on a much deeper level.

    So yeah. No.
  • Folant #37 10 months ago

    But, it is laughable, Nintendo fan or otherwise.
  • peterfll #38 10 months ago

    Estimates of what the PS3 (and to lesser degree the 360) could do prior to release turned out not to be hugely reflective of their potential. Just sayin'.
  • Softie2k #39 10 months ago

    Vice President and the rest of EA happy with Wii U's power. Eurogamer virgin's not happy with Wii U's power.

    (Even though Eurogamer virgin's know jack)

    Jus sayin'...
  • uknortherner2000 #40 10 months ago

    Can it make EA's multiplayer games playable a year after release? Nah, don't be fucking stupid. It can't do the impossible!
  • Sid-Nice #41 10 months ago

    @Subdominator

    That’s why I think the Wii U is a good thing; the backward compatibility with Wii peripherals and software will make the console an instant hit with the casual gamer and the ability to use the second screen for inventories and HUD will be a bonus for the core gamer.

    My comment “Nintendo are not in direct competition with Microsoft and Sony” was in reference to the next generation. Nintendo don’t need to follow suite in “Graphic wars” the 5 year Wii U cycle will enable Nintendo fans to enjoy the best of both worlds for a while. When the Next Box and PS4 are in a similar position as they are in todays’ market; Nintendo can launch another cost effective console as the price of similar components will be low.
  • alimokrane #42 10 months ago

    Oh wow, Nintendo must be pretty pleased with these comments then, given that a yet-to-be released console is able to do the same quality of graphics as 5 year old consoles … what an unrivalled achievement for Nintendo, indeed.
  • NHDavid #43 10 months ago

    Will Wi U have cross game chat??????
  • drumbaby #44 10 months ago

    "Wii U can do "anything" PS3, 360 can"

    Cold comfort when all the PS3 and Xbox 360 are doing is being succeeded by the latest iteration of Sony/ Msoft hardware.
  • Softie2k #45 10 months ago

    Hasn't anyone taken into account the Zelda tech demo?
  • Ryze #46 10 months ago

  • HyperTails #47 10 months ago

    @Sid Nice

    "It’s beginning to get rather tedious all the negative comments in reference to every Wii U article. First of all Nintendo are not in direct competition with Microsoft and Sony; the Wii U is a high definition Wii console with an innovating controller, those who can’t see the potential of the new controller are stuck in a “Time warp of hypocrisy” wanting state of the art graphics with an antiquated control system."

    TBH its hilarious how the Nintendo fanboys crawl out of the woodwork and neg or flame anyone who dares to question their ultimate authority. Nintendo jumped into the casual crowd, and gave the finger to the hardcore. Nintendo's quickly losing the hardcore to Apple and smartphones, while the core are happy with Sony and Microsoft, and now they desperately want us back. Well, they can stick their 'innovating controller', that 3rd parties are sure to not use the 'potential' of, and keep churning out fitness and party games. They'll be having cleaning games next, with the Nintendo fanboys championing it as 'innovation', saying how it shows that cleaning can be fun.

    And the Ninty fans around the web bragging this things more powerful than a PS3/360. Ninty fans bragging about power... yeah...
  • alcides #48 10 months ago

    achievements?
    online ID's?
    6 years old back catalogue of boxed and dowloadable games?
    Actual stream of game releases?
    New exciting franchises?
    HD collections?

    yeah *sneers*
  • Dasorcerer #49 10 months ago

    lol at the knee jerk comments around here, yeah it can do anything ps3 and xbox360 can, you know what else can do that PCs. this in no way describes how powerful the system is, we don't know how beyond that it goes yet.
  • CamberGreber #50 10 months ago

    Nintendo Fanboys Playing Zelda and Mario games and spinoffs are not worth shelling out $250+ too play.

    And as far as Core games go if you dont already own a 360/Ps3/PC over the last 6 years I feel bad for you.
  • DrStrangelove #51 10 months ago

    Oh, it can play blu-ray? That's cool.
  • DoucheVader #52 10 months ago

    Well I would hope so, I mean the PS3 and Xbox 360 only came out about 5-6 years ago. I would hope that Wii U could do anything that current gen games could.

    The more I hear about Wii U the less excited I am about it.
  • Sid-Nice #53 10 months ago

    @Hypertails,

    Am I actually flaming anyone? It’s pathetic when so called adults are making playground comments on a toy and let’s face it, all consoles are toys. Juveniles who are masquerading as men trying to justify their allegiance to a company or product; as they believe their purchase has more adult and core games. If gamers believe that Microsoft and Sony will deliver next generation; they need to ask themselves “What the f*ck went wrong this generation?”
  • DAN.E.B #54 10 months ago

    The word "hope" seems to be used alot when they disscuss the power of this machine
    Doesnt give us much confidence really.
  • Sevens #55 10 months ago

    anss123: "Anything? Can it sound like a vacuum cleaner on steroids? My Xbox is very good at this."

    Hehe.
  • Nikanoru #56 10 months ago

    Wait, I got a whole bunch of downvotes (expected), but a comment post that only contains the words "Wii puu" gets an upvote?

    Hahahahahahaha!

    As if you ever needed more proof that the trolls who flock to every nintendo article are a bunch of drooling retards...
  • madeinbeats #57 10 months ago

    Soooo, people, 'WiiU can at lest do anything the PS360 can do' has been twisted into: 'the Wii U is only as powerful as the PS360'

    Please, if I have to point out this base level error, then I'm off back to IGN for an intelligent conversation; at least most of the posters there have the excuse of begin young and stupid, once you a bit older though, you are just stupid... not good... (HAHAHA, OMFG!!!!)
    Edited by madeinbeats at 27/07/11 @ 23:08
  • HyperTails #58 10 months ago

    @sid nice

    I never said that you specifically were flaming anyone, more than Nintendo fans in general do it (and i've been flamed on this site myself for criticising Nintendo, constructively I might add), and they do. Yes, I do agree that 'playground comments' are pathetic... saying thinks like 'Wii puu' and getting the thumbs up says it all.

    However, the PS3/360 DOES have more adult/core games than the Wii. And by adult, I don't mean 'super sweary military FPS, I mean games like Assassins Creed and Dead Space, which lets face it, are meant for adults, and not children. You cannot deny that the Wii has much, much, much less. Yeah, the Wii U is getting some, but ports of PS3/360 games that will be bought by the fans on the consoles they own now doesn't say much, really.

    And 'what went wrong this generation'? Besides the influx of casual gamers courtesy of Nintendo and Apple, and devs realising with the internet they can 'ship now, (maybe) patch later', alongside the rise of FPS gaming, not much really.
  • Darkmessiah24 #59 10 months ago

    This is getting rather confusing, there are developers who say it's more powerful and others who say it's on par with the 360/PS3.

    So I'm not going to listen to either sides until I see the system for myself.
  • Kaminari #60 10 months ago

    May 2011: "WiiU is more powerful than PS360."

    June 2011: "WiiU is at least as powerful as PS360."

    July 2011: "We think WiiU can do anything PS360 can, but don't quote us on that."

    January 2012: "Look! The power button is GREEN!"
    Edited by Kaminari at 27/07/11 @ 23:28
  • Sid-Nice #61 10 months ago

    And 'what went wrong this generation'? Besides the influx of casual gamers courtesy of Nintendo and Apple, and devs realising with the internet they can 'ship now, (maybe) patch later', alongside the rise of FPS gaming, not much really.

    Try screen tearing, frame rate issues, online lag, these extras weren’t promised but were available in most games at no extra cost. I’m still waiting for the “Toy Story” like graphics.

    The Wii U will be the worst console ever with only having Xbox 360 and PS3 like graphics; it will look hideous next to the Xbox Next and PS4 running games in 1080p at 60fps with Avatar like graphics. Who wants to play Mario, Metroid, Pikmin and any other kiddie Nintendo title in HD when all the best games will be on the next generation Microsoft and Sony machines? I won’t be spending £300 on a silly kid’s toy, when the real next generation is just around the corner.

    You know people write shit like the above in Wii U related articles and receive +60 or whatever in the comments. If people aren’t interested in Nintendo products why even comment? You have some members on E/G claiming there’s no justification in purchasing a console that is only capable of this generation graphics; when in the next breath they are contemplating whether to buy the Gears or Star Wars special edition Xbox 360 or both?

    The problem Nintendo have with the Wii U; is if it is indeed more powerful than the current generation and they are reluctant to release the specifications, 3rd party developers may use the “Wii U can do anything the PS3, 360 can” as an excuse to port games with little or no enhancements. Personally I have very little interest in ports; I normally choose my multiplatform purchases on review scores and on which version comes out on top. The Wii U port would have to be something special to warrant a second purchase; if I have already owned and completed the title on the PS3 or Xbox 360.
  • WAusJackBauer #62 10 months ago

    Nintendo is crap and I hate them. They have betrayed the hardcore gamer and will most likely never get my respect back.

    They really are just too stupid in the head. Iwata, Reggie, all the high up people in Nintendo would need to leave for anything to change.

    Although I shouldn't jump the gun since the Wii U isn't out yet, but the name Wii U already tells me they haven't learned much. And those goddamn circle pads on the Wii U controller.... and no evidence of a traditional controller being released (No I'm not going to use the Classic Controller because I shouldn't have to freakin plug it into a Wii remote!)

    Nintendo are always behind in everything. With the Wii U now, they'll be 3 generations without a harddrive in their console... thats something the FIRST Xbox was able to achieve...... I guess all them Nintendo fans will have to wait 4 generations.....

    The Wii U will be alright up until PS4 and next Xbox get released, then it'll lose 3rd party support and just end up like the Wii. Nintendo forced themselves into this position. The Wii was incredibly weak, which has now forced them to release a new console too early and because of that they're 2 years behind in tech.
    Edited by WAusJackBauer at 28/07/11 @ 02:10
  • wez_316 #63 10 months ago

    Well you know what else Wii U has the potential to do? Everything DS can do and everything Wii can do. It can also do other things that no console can do at present.

    And personally there is no doubt in my mind that the DS was a far better console than any home console this generation. Power is not everything.

    Also graphics whores... the truth is that many developers do not even want to move on. They want to make the current gen last longer. So to everyone saying that Wii U will be ignored in favor of super powerful next gen consoles is a bit backwards compared to what I read from developers. It seems more likely to me that those consoles will be ignored in favour of Wii U, PS3 and 360.

    Though that will also be down to how much people buy. Everyone seems to think Ninty abandoned the hardcore... but the truth is that a lot of the hardcore had already abandoned Nintendo 15 years ago when Playstation landed. You only have yourselves and fellow gamers to blame. Nintendo weren't getting the results they needed by staying true to the hardcore and so they went and changed it up to try for better results.

    The trouble they have with their current model is their relationships with third parties. Wii U is them trying to fix that. They are really giving the devs what they want. If third parties don't perform well on Wii U then support will stop for it by everyone but Nintendo. Third parties make or break a console for a lot of core gamers these days.

    I hope for one hope they succeed and am really appalled by how many people are so negative on them for trying their best to please everyone. Sure the fact is they might end up pleasing nobody by going for everybody... but at least wait until the thing is on the shelves before writing it off!
  • Collymilad #64 10 months ago

    @Sid nice.

    Antiquated control system? The PS3/360 controllers give FAR better control than the Wii. As for the Wii U controller, no-one really knows what that's capable of yet.

    You're like some kind of pre-emptive fanboy. You go on about how "people" don't buy the Wii because of this, that and the other - yet all you're doing is making assumptions. Ever though that a lot of people didn't buy the Wii because, shock, it didn't have that many games that appealed to them? Many think the Wii U could go the same way, hence many of the (perhaps premature) negativity.
    Edited by Collymilad at 28/07/11 @ 08:14
  • Inmediasress #65 10 months ago

    I think nintendo will either win again or sink deep and quickly with this console and I'm for the later.
  • bluetoothion #66 10 months ago

    Come on Ninty we know you are more for game play and cost efficiency

    but really how the fook hard would it be to create something better than a PS3 or and XBOX360 by a small margin of 1,5 or 2 times better, keep cost exceptionally low and draw hardcores back with a digestable image quality that we be the best around for the next year or two.

    the fact that this issue is still debatable is ridicullous, ninty is shooting themselves in the foot for no apparent reason.
    we can only hope they are going to pleasantly surprise us...even though that hasn't happened since the SNES days
  • Rob #67 10 months ago

    One thing everyone seems to be overlooking - the Wii U can do 'everything' the PS3/360 can do *on two screens at once*. Regardless of anything else, that alone proves that in terms of raw power it's a pretty decent little box.

    Still, raw power means nothing as this generation has already shown (hands up anyone who thinks either MS or Sony wouldn't swap places with Nintendo right now given the opportunity), so it all be about the software again.

    If they can capture third parties, then they have a hit on their hands. One box that plays the best third party titles alongside the Nintendo first party stuff is clearly not a bad proposition.
  • penhalion #68 10 months ago

    I being as good as 5 year old systems is their selling point, then they may want to take another look at the sega story and realise that at this rate they will be joining them as a non-hardware company.

    In this case I'm going to have to say that Nintendo's penny pinching hardware strategy is finally catching up with them. Nothing they bring out has the power to wow people beyond a few months. My Wii gathers dust and never get's used. My 3DS has zero games for it and I have no interest in buying a console that will only match my 360 and ps3. The irony is that Microsoft have already said that the 720 (or whatever it will be called once marketting get through with it) is coming soon!
  • bluetoothion #69 10 months ago

    Actually Based on current info Wii U can't project at once the same image twice.... it can process 2 different outputs the will be used to show two different images related... when you switch to Wii U controller it will be in SD . Not to mention PS3 and 360 ability to actually render two images at once for 3D so it might not be all that different.

    Also I don't see how its different from a PS3 running on remote control sending e.g Lair ( ps3 game ) to psp where ever you were through a decent connection and not in the same room.
    of course it might be able to do it better than psp/ps3 connection ( i ll doubt a bit the PS3/vita connection) but its not a groundbreaking proof of power.
  • Ryze #70 10 months ago

    Ninty Fans:

    I personally think that the Wii U is a fantastic concept. The gameplay options offered up by its tech look marvellous.

    The only issue is that I'm unlikely to buy it until 2015 when it's dirt cheap, unless it really dazzles me with the tech. The REASON for this, is that I currently own a 360, PS3, Wii and a decent gaming PC.

    The Wii U wont play Blu Rays, it probably wont support DLNA, it obviously wont support Xbox live, it's looking more and more like it wont have more than 1GB RAM, it has no hard drive, it'll have a broken Nintendo online system, etc...

    The only one of my systems that it looks like it can replace, is the Wii, and I ONLY bought that because I got it dirt cheap (£60 with Mario Kart Wii, Monkey Ball and a wheel).

    Now - I'd love for it to dazzle me with 2-6GB RAM, better or equal to 360/PS3 visuals at 1080p/60fps with optional 3D, and a FANTASTIC, unmissable new online system that lets Valve do what they did with Sony on Portal 2, etc...

    Untill this stuff gets announced, and is set in stone, then they can't expect the hardcore to get behind them in any meaningful way.

    This is the Internet, and we react to what we think, and what we read.

    There are some fantastic potential gameplay concepts that the Wii U can bring, however. Can't wait until its actually been finished and there's a release date within a few weeks / months. Then I'll get excited.
  • Rob #71 10 months ago

    @bluetoothion

    I'm a bit confused by what you've said there - it makes no sense. The 'bird garden' demo Nintendo had running on the show floor at E3 did *exactly* what I mentioned - it had one image on the TV screen, and a separate, independent image of the same scene (i.e from a different viewpoint which could be moved around) on the Wii U screen.

    EDIT: The Ubisoft Ghost Recon game also showed the same thing at points: main game screen on the TV, and the camera feed from the drone being shown on the Wii U screen.
    Edited by Rob at 28/07/11 @ 13:00
  • Sid-Nice #72 10 months ago

    You're like some kind of pre-emptive fanboy. You go on about how "people" don't buy the Wii because of this, that and the other - yet all you're doing is making assumptions. Ever though that a lot of people didn't buy the Wii because, shock, it didn't have that many games that appealed to them? Many think the Wii U could go the same way, hence many of the (perhaps premature) negativity.

    When did I say "This?"

    The Wii has been a great success for Nintendo and by the time the Wii U launches sales will probably surpass the PlayStation 1; making the Wii the second best selling home console behind the phenomenal sales of the PlayStation 2. If the Wii U achieves a similar success then Nintendo will be laughing all the way to the bank “Again.”

    I’m not a fanboy of any particular brand I’m a fan of video games in general. I’m not blinkered “I say it how I see it.” Personally I thought that the Nintendo E3 Wii U Presentation was an “Absolute joke” also the 1st party support for the Wii has been almost non-existent; with Nintendo leaving it to 3rd party developers to keep interest in the Wii console alive, with casual titles like Just Dance and Zumba Fitness.

    The only gripe I have is every time someone makes a statement concerning the Wii U the Anti-Nintendo Brigade are there like flies on hot shit; making their assumptions on the actual power or lack of power in the Wii U console. It would be in Nintendo’s best interest to release the machines specifications; all this speculation could be damaging if the console has less power than first anticipated.

    Even though I like the idea of the Wii U I’m still a bit sceptical; is the controller a smoke screen to hype up the price of a console with old technology? Or will the controller be innovating and enhance the gaming experience? As things stand I’m open minded and I would love to play the likes of Mario Galaxy 3, Wave Race, Pikmin etc. in 1080p. I only hope that 3rd party support won’t be a multitude of mediocre PS360 ports in 720p with a £45 price tag; when the same game is available in the bargain bin for £15.