The vast majority of the so called 'hardcore' (a term I despise) clearly hate Nintendo.
Why do you think the 'Nintendo is doomed meme' exists in the first?
It was the same story with the DS, the Wii and the 3DS. Eventually the doomsayers will be right of course, nobody can stay on top all the time. But do you really see the same negativity being applied to Sony and MS? Two companies that have in recent years basically had no financial success in the games industry?
And you're free to voice your opinion about all the other flaws with the WiiU. But is this thread really the one to do it in? Don't you find it tiresome to find the same old stuff repeated in every single Nintendo thread? Reply+2
You and I are both aware that the vast majority of people who come onto this website to rag on the WiiU do not own or have any intention of owning a WiiU.
Besides, the idea of someone buying a console when they think he controller is flawed is absurd. If someone doesn't like the controller, why did they buy the console in the first place? Reply0
'give ur dad the WIiU pad and a game and see how confortable he is moving a character on a game.'
He's going to be as comfortable using a WiiU pad as he going to be using DS controls: The DS sold 150m+ units, much more than the Wii. No one complains about the controls of the DS. Reply0
The reason Nathan Drake kills so many enemies is because it would be a boring GAME otherwise.
You can't directly compare a game narrative with a film narrative. A Indiana Jones film is about 2 hours long. It has maybe 30 mins of action and 90 mins of drama?
Now you could make a Uncharted game with 30 mins of gameplay and 90 mins of cutscene, but who would be prepared to pay money for it?
So Nathan is no more a mass murderer than Indy is. It's just that Uncharted takes certain elements of Indiana Jones and exaggerates them in order to provide its entertainment value because it's a GAME not a film. Reply+1
Although I think one thing that could have been talked abut is how insular and inward looking the games industry is (and wants to be).
The Wii created a massive influx of new customers. What does the games industry do? It mocks them. shuns them and tried to fob them off with shovelware. Now much of the industry wonders why it's making no money. It should have been working hard to retain potential customers instead of ignoring them. Reply+23
The obvious answer is that Nintendo entered into negotiation with the German authorities to ensure that the scope of German law would not be applied to the e-shop, allowing them to lift the restriction.
Anyone who thinks that DD will lead to cheaper console games for consumers doesn't understand either the economics of the games industry or the motivations of the publishers/platform holders. Reply+3
We all know those games are on the way to the WiiU.
Additionally Nintendo in one their direct announcements said that they will have versions of Mario 3D and Smash Brothers playable at E3 IIRC.
Thirdly; I seem to remember playing GTA on my PS2 about 10 years ago too. Who woulda thought it?
I could of played Bioshock years ago except too, it's not my cup of tea. Reply+1
Ahh poor 'widdle' Barry, WiiU owners will just have to comfort themselves with games like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Brothers, Mario Kart etc. :( Reply+1
Nintendo made it clear many months ago that if you want to have digital copies of your games, you'll need a external hard drive - that's why the WiiU supports external hard drives. Reply+7
@Mr-Writer
'No they don't I never argued that they did. What I am saying, is that the market you claim would want this already have one.'
Let me say this; The Wii Mini has been released as a cheaper proposition to potentially attract new customers. How is this different from the PS2 slim or the 12gb PS3.
You believe that the cheaper Wii Mini can't attract any more customers than the original Wii? I'm going to disagree. I think making anything cheaper will give it a boost in sales. Reply0
Are you saying that 'casuals' (a term I hate) had a high level of interest in old GC games, internet connectivity, Wiiware and Virtual Console games? Surely they have minimal interest in those? Making the Wii Mini a cheaper more appealing proposition?
The PS3 has lost Sony billions of dollars. Reportedly it lost more money for Sony than the profits of the PS1 & PS2 combined. Reply0
Your avoiding the subject. It's still removed functionality, and it's not erroneous functionality either, it's functionality related to the device's main purpose. It might be minor, but it's still valid. Reply0
Yes but if you wanted to play FFXI on your PS2 Slim you were shit out of luck, it only being a PS2 game....
'Gathering dust...'
Ha ha, I see what you did there.
Except, of course the Wii had a oh-so-important attach rate that was almost identical to the PS3. So that means that for every Wii gathering dust - there must be a PS3 gathering dust too.
Well maybe not so many PS3s. It's never really sold well enough.
I don't know why I'm picking on Sony here, I've owned and enjoyed every Sony console. But sometimes you've got to make a point. Reply0
@Whizzo
Functionality that was barely used is still functionality that is used by someone - especially when you have a user base of the size of the PS2.
Besides anyone with half a brain knows why the Wii Mini has been released.
Furthermore if you want all the functionality of a Wii.... then buy a Wii. Has the Wii been been discontinued?
I saw the same whining when Sony launched the 12gb PS3, the haters were too busy hating to listen to the rationale that you could still buy a 250gb PS3 or whatever.
Oh and I just remembered, Sony released a lower spec PSP as well. Reply+1
Wii U Wii U Wii U: Is it time to call an ambulance for Nintendo's console?
Yes, but it's almost pointless having games tied to a account when they won't carry over from PS3 to PS4 or Xbox360 to Xbox One. Reply +2
Face-Off: Resident Evil: Revelations
Clearly biased.
DF didn't take into account how 'fluid' the gameplay is whilst sitting on the toilet.
An easy win for the 3DS!:-P Reply +2
Secrets of the Wii U GamePad
The vast majority of the so called 'hardcore' (a term I despise) clearly hate Nintendo.
Why do you think the 'Nintendo is doomed meme' exists in the first?
It was the same story with the DS, the Wii and the 3DS. Eventually the doomsayers will be right of course, nobody can stay on top all the time. But do you really see the same negativity being applied to Sony and MS? Two companies that have in recent years basically had no financial success in the games industry?
And you're free to voice your opinion about all the other flaws with the WiiU. But is this thread really the one to do it in? Don't you find it tiresome to find the same old stuff repeated in every single Nintendo thread? Reply +2
You and I are both aware that the vast majority of people who come onto this website to rag on the WiiU do not own or have any intention of owning a WiiU.
Besides, the idea of someone buying a console when they think he controller is flawed is absurd. If someone doesn't like the controller, why did they buy the console in the first place? Reply 0
'I see the NDF hit this thread early.'
This was a thread about some of the functionality of the gamepad.
It has been hijacked by a bunch of insecure whining haters looking for any excuse to slag off Nintendo. Reply 0
Did you actually read my post?
'give ur dad the WIiU pad and a game and see how confortable he is moving a character on a game.'
He's going to be as comfortable using a WiiU pad as he going to be using DS controls: The DS sold 150m+ units, much more than the Wii. No one complains about the controls of the DS. Reply 0
Gran didn't have a problem using a touchscreen when playing Brain Age on the DS did she.
The DS sold 150m+ with both traditional controls and a touchscreen. The WiiU's problems have little to do with the gamepad. Reply +9
"The next generation is going to be, possibly for the very first time, the next generation of game design"
You can't directly compare a game narrative with a film narrative. A Indiana Jones film is about 2 hours long. It has maybe 30 mins of action and 90 mins of drama?
Now you could make a Uncharted game with 30 mins of gameplay and 90 mins of cutscene, but who would be prepared to pay money for it?
So Nathan is no more a mass murderer than Indy is. It's just that Uncharted takes certain elements of Indiana Jones and exaggerates them in order to provide its entertainment value because it's a GAME not a film. Reply +1
Saturday Soapbox: Taking the Direct approach
'Nonsense iOS and Android dominates the handheld market.'
Yet Apple & Google never attend a E3 AFAIK. Reply +8
Saturday Soapbox: The high cost of high standards
Although I think one thing that could have been talked abut is how insular and inward looking the games industry is (and wants to be).
The Wii created a massive influx of new customers. What does the games industry do? It mocks them. shuns them and tried to fob them off with shovelware. Now much of the industry wonders why it's making no money. It should have been working hard to retain potential customers instead of ignoring them. Reply +23
Nintendo removes European eShop restrictions on 18+ rated games
The obvious answer is that Nintendo entered into negotiation with the German authorities to ensure that the scope of German law would not be applied to the e-shop, allowing them to lift the restriction.
What other rational answer is there? Reply 0
But I understand, believing in the obvious is boring, much better to believe in a conspiracy theory. :rolleyes: Reply -4
Next Xbox games run from hard drive, discs not supported post-install - report
Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut for Wii U spotted
He's not a troll, he's just 'widdle'. ;) Reply +1
We all know those games are on the way to the WiiU.
Additionally Nintendo in one their direct announcements said that they will have versions of Mario 3D and Smash Brothers playable at E3 IIRC.
Thirdly; I seem to remember playing GTA on my PS2 about 10 years ago too. Who woulda thought it?
I could of played Bioshock years ago except too, it's not my cup of tea. Reply +1
Ahh poor 'widdle' Barry, WiiU owners will just have to comfort themselves with games like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Brothers, Mario Kart etc. :( Reply +1
Nintendo solidifies 60Hz support for Wii U Virtual Console with launch of Punch-Out!!
AFAIK, Nintendo have left it entirely up to publishers to set their prices or to choose to do a sale or not. Reply +4
Wii U external hard drive required to download Lego City Undercover, Nintendo says
Nintendo made it clear many months ago that if you want to have digital copies of your games, you'll need a external hard drive - that's why the WiiU supports external hard drives. Reply +7
US retail giant GameStop reminds Microsoft and Sony why it thinks always-online consoles are a bad idea
Also; good luck getting any retailers to sell consoles at no margin if there's no games for them to make a profit from. Reply 0
Wii Mini out in the UK on 22nd March
'No they don't I never argued that they did. What I am saying, is that the market you claim would want this already have one.'
Let me say this; The Wii Mini has been released as a cheaper proposition to potentially attract new customers. How is this different from the PS2 slim or the 12gb PS3.
You believe that the cheaper Wii Mini can't attract any more customers than the original Wii? I'm going to disagree. I think making anything cheaper will give it a boost in sales. Reply 0
Are you saying that 'casuals' (a term I hate) had a high level of interest in old GC games, internet connectivity, Wiiware and Virtual Console games? Surely they have minimal interest in those? Making the Wii Mini a cheaper more appealing proposition?
The PS3 has lost Sony billions of dollars. Reportedly it lost more money for Sony than the profits of the PS1 & PS2 combined. Reply 0
Your avoiding the subject. It's still removed functionality, and it's not erroneous functionality either, it's functionality related to the device's main purpose. It might be minor, but it's still valid. Reply 0
'It still supported DVD playback
And PS1 games.'
Yes but if you wanted to play FFXI on your PS2 Slim you were shit out of luck, it only being a PS2 game....
'Gathering dust...'
Ha ha, I see what you did there.
Except, of course the Wii had a oh-so-important attach rate that was almost identical to the PS3. So that means that for every Wii gathering dust - there must be a PS3 gathering dust too.
Well maybe not so many PS3s. It's never really sold well enough.
I don't know why I'm picking on Sony here, I've owned and enjoyed every Sony console. But sometimes you've got to make a point. Reply 0
Functionality that was barely used is still functionality that is used by someone - especially when you have a user base of the size of the PS2.
Besides anyone with half a brain knows why the Wii Mini has been released.
Furthermore if you want all the functionality of a Wii.... then buy a Wii. Has the Wii been been discontinued?
I saw the same whining when Sony launched the 12gb PS3, the haters were too busy hating to listen to the rationale that you could still buy a 250gb PS3 or whatever.
Oh and I just remembered, Sony released a lower spec PSP as well. Reply +1
I agree that the HDD bay didn't get much use at all. But it's still functionality that was removed to make it cheaper. Reply 0