nickthegun wrote:I think you missed the face. The argument is over ipso fatso the face wins all
I dont think that strictly counts
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Deckard1 17,939 posts
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meme 15,332 posts
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Registered 5 years agoThe Hobbit was written first, but then after LotR he went back and rewrote bits of it so it fit better with the LotR storyline.
Just thought I'd throw that out there for shits and giggles.
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Deckard1 17,939 posts
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Registered 4 years agoThe argument is over. Don't make me post the face again. -
LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoSo Star Wars, the Dicked-About-With Edition is a prequel to The Empire Strikes Back, original edition?LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Gambit1977 7,839 posts
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Registered 5 years agoLeoliansBro wrote:
No!
So Star Wars, the Dicked-About-With Edition is a prequel to The Empire Strikes Back, original edition?
It's an adaptation
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meme 15,332 posts
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Registered 5 years agoI don't think the book Hobbit is a prequel myself, just saying that there's no real convenient pigeonhole for it.GHOSTBUSTERS
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kalel 76,447 posts
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Registered 10 years agoLucas claims the whole 12 episodes of Star Wars were written before the original trilogy came out, so is the "prequel" trilogy not actually prequels? -
Deckard1 17,939 posts
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agomeme wrote:
It kinda is a prequel IMO. Prequels don't have to be written after the books they foreshadow.
I don't think the book Hobbit is a prequel myself, just saying that there's no real convenient pigeonhole for it.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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Registered 7 years agoTDKR: 4/10
It was quite shit. And I liked the last one quite a bit. -
meme 15,332 posts
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Registered 5 years agoWell, that's sort of what I meant. I don't think it's a prequel, but people who think it is aren't really wrong.GHOSTBUSTERS
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kalel 76,447 posts
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Registered 10 years agoWas the Red Dragon film a prequel?
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Registered 7 years agoI'm pretty sure Red Dragon's a prequel, but I can't remember what makes me believe that. -
LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoBecause it is set earlier than Silence of the Lambs.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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ronuds 20,494 posts
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Registered 7 years agoSomething in the movie must happen to give that away?
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nickthegun 44,324 posts
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Registered 7 years agoBut the book was written before the silence of the lambs, so its not a prequel.---------------------------------------------------------
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nickthegun 44,324 posts
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The fact that it quite explicitly is set before silence of the lambs.
Something in the movie must happen to give that away?
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agonickthegun wrote:
Yes it is.
But the book was written before the silence of the lambs, so its not a prequel.
Star Wars is a prequel to Empire Strikes Back.
Even if we accept that what we are talking abut here when we say 'prequel' (something which is done later but set earlier), the film is a prequel although the book is not.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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nickthegun 44,324 posts
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Registered 7 years agoStar wars was written before TESB, so its not.---------------------------------------------------------
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nickthegun 44,324 posts
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agonickthegun wrote:
Yes, but a prequel doesn't have to be written later. It is simply 'something that occurs before'.
Star wars was written before TESB, so its not.
To mirror the point, a 'sequel' doesn't have to be written earlier.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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LeoliansBro 35,019 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThe word prequel has stopped having any meaning in my head.LB, you really are a massive geek.
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meme 15,332 posts
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Registered 5 years agoA prequel is very specifically something that was written later. The -quel suffix is specifically about the release chronology.GHOSTBUSTERS
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kalel 76,447 posts
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Registered 10 years agoA prequel is essentially a sequel (comes after), that is set before (pre). It's an amalgam word.
So Star Wars is not a prequel to Empire. It's just the preceding film. Episode 1 is a prequel as it is a sequel that is set before.
I was being intentionally annoying about Red Dragon. The film was basically positioned as a prequel, although the book was set before so it isn't one. The Hobbit film is kinda the same thing.
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kalel 76,447 posts
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Registered 10 years agoTo be really clear, a prequel is actually a type of sequel. It's a sequel that it set before. But in a narrative sense it presumes knowledge of what comes later.
So for Episode 1 to work, you actually have to seen Episodes IV, V and VI. You need to know that Anakin becomes Vader and that Senator Palpatine is the Emperor etc etc. If you watch Episode I, II and III before you watch IV, V and VI then the story won't really make sense, and things like you finding out that Vader is Luke's father will have no impact. -
Red Dragon is an adaptation, a prequel and a remake. It's an adapremake.
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