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meme 15,518 posts
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Ged42 7,408 posts
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Registered 5 years agoSome new stills
Looks like the elves are playing a bigger part, probably in the second movie. I'm not sure of the lore, but when Gandalf battles the Necromancer, is it just him or him and army of elves?
Maybe the three elven rings are going to be a key plot point.
Also i'm trying to figure, if the CGI work on Gollum's skin has just improved or if they've purposely made him look healthier. Due to either having the ring or a steady diet of raw and wriggling fishes. -
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Registered 6 years agoI think there was something about it in The Silmarillion. He went there himself first, but then returned with Agent Smith (aussie actor) and the elves from Rivendell?
I suppose Gollum would be younger and fresh with the ring's power, so could be deliberate.
I'd very much like to see stuff from the Silmarillion put on-screen. The Witch King stuff would be cool, wot wiv the Dragons etc. Fall of Gondolin.This post is unsuitable for those with a high rumour-sensitivity.
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Triggerhappytel 2,438 posts
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Registered 8 years agoI thought Gandalf went there with some other wizards to kick the necromancer's arse. May be mistaken though; haven't read the books since about 1998. -
Bremenacht 11,233 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI could be equally wrong - it's been a long while since I last read any of them.This post is unsuitable for those with a high rumour-sensitivity.
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Didn't get very far with Salmarillion, glad they're including more of the lore in this.
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RobAnybody 550 posts
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Registered 2 years agoTriggerhappytel wrote:
It's not very clear really - a bit more info here:
I thought Gandalf went there with some other wizards to kick the necromancer's arse. May be mistaken though; haven't read the books since about 1998.
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hiddenranbir 5,476 posts
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disusedgenius 4,848 posts
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Good to see Beorn in there as well, I was expecting them to cut him out of it. -
Feanor 13,606 posts
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Rhythm 2,046 posts
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Registered 2 years agohiddenranbir wrote:
Not sure about the IMAX thing. The higher framerate should make it more watchable (24fps on a screen that size is fucking painful to try and track) but ultimately it's not been filmed for the IMAX format. IMAX is a broken old format and until they start embracing the advantages of digital (specifically the much higher framerate they can utilise) then feature films are a no-go for it. I wish nobbers like Cameron and Nolan would stop pretending it's some kind of holy grail.
Deffo booking myself for IMAX 3D. Don't care if I end up alone, this is a must.
Deffo thinking about givng 3D a go though, if I can find a Dolby3D screen (RealD is utter shite, way too much brightness drop-off). Dolby Atmos would be nice too, but I don't know if any local screens will be set up in time for that -
hiddenranbir 5,476 posts
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Registered 7 years agoI don't know this techno mumbo jumbo. It'll be on the biggest screen in Britain and 3D. Was fine with Prometheus I can't see it not being awesome with Hobbit. -
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hiddenranbir 5,476 posts
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Fucking trilogies, do one.
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Registered 6 years agoCrispyXUK wrote:
Don't think I could sit for that long.
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kalel 76,472 posts
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Registered 10 years agoThe success of LotR as a trilogy is largely based on it being filmed all in one go.
This has ill-judged-money-spinning-fuck-up written all over it. -
Supposedly, it was Peter Jackson who wanted to stretch it out to a trilogy, as opposed to just Warner Bros/New Line... -
kalel 76,472 posts
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evild_edd 2,645 posts
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Thought you were talking about Ronnie Barker's son there for a minute....
He presumably has no interest in money and lives off the dreams of children.Why look, it's a blog:
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Pac-man-ate-my-wife 6,984 posts
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Registered 10 years ago...the plan isn't simply to spread the original text more thinly across the three films, but instead to explore the book's various appendices, which include a number of characters and stories not included in the primary story.
I don't have a massive problem with that. If he was trying to extend the already slight book across a third film then I'd be more concerned, but there's bags of stuff in Tolkein's world that could be made into interesting film. -
disusedgenius 4,848 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI'm still of the opinion that there's probably enough stuff in The Hobbit for more than 2 films, even without the extra fluff around it, so this doesn't surprise me. -
Well reading it it sounds like the current plan is still for two films for the books story so there'll be an additional film on the end, not sure how that's gonna work really.
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disusedgenius 4,848 posts
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Registered 6 years agoWell they've got something like 50 years of Middle Earth time to play with - all of Aragorn's dealings with Gandalf, Gollum etc. Would probably end up like a series of shorts though. Either that or they change the edit so they extend out what they've already shot, then fill the gaps over the next year/year and a half. -
Feanor 13,606 posts
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Registered 11 years agoSo long as the story of the Hobbit wraps up at the end of the second movie, and this third movie is all stuff that happens between that and FotR then I'm fine with it.
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The issue as I see it is this. One book, whether it's 100 pages or 1000 will have a narrative arc. If you break that arc into two or three parts, you're going to end up with weirdly paced sections that don't have a proper structure or narrative.
This was the exact problem with the last two Harry Potter films.
Given that each book of LotR is about twice the size of The Hobbit, it's really hard to justify turning this into three or even two films, from a story-telling point of view at least. -
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