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  • Deleted user 16 December 2013 15:55:52
    The LoTR trilogy were good, but they did have issues. Pacing, that awful drawn out cheesy smiling at the end, unexplained or unfulfilling moments etc...

    Edited by SG59 at 16:06:06 16-12-2013
  • FightingMongoose 16 Dec 2013 16:03:26 498 posts
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    Somebody just wrote on Tumblr that people are "uncultured illiterates" if they care about the third movie being spoiled and haven't read the book. A very sensitive debate.
  • Steve_Perry 16 Dec 2013 16:04:46 4,149 posts
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    The only bit I didn't like from the originals was when Frodo wakes up after the ring is destroyed and they have a ten minute love in. It would have been less camp if they had shot Gandalf chasing all the Hobbits around a shower block whipping them all with towels in their Hobbit bottoms, Benny Hill style.

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  • FightingMongoose 16 Dec 2013 16:06:37 498 posts
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    I think people can be considerate of people who haven't read the book for one reason or another. It doesn't take much. This guy titled his post with fate of one of the characters. Bit of a dick if you ask me.
  • Deleted user 16 December 2013 16:10:14
    I haven't read the books and I don't plan too. I tried reading them before, but didnt enjoy the writing style. Credit where its due, the world, characters etc are all well thought out and cleverly done. I just didn't enjoy reading them.
  • sega 16 Dec 2013 16:19:38 857 posts
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    cptjohnnycasino wrote:
    Firstly, I'm actually a little surprised at all of the love for the Hobbit films, over LOTR. I genuinely thought it was a universally accepted fact that the original trilogy was revered.
    It is. I'm just enjoying these ones more. See it more like saying I see Citizen Kane as a good film, but enjoy watching Die Hard more.
  • Steve_Perry 16 Dec 2013 16:37:38 4,149 posts
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    SG59 wrote:
    I haven't read the books and I don't plan too. I tried reading them before, but didnt enjoy the writing style. Credit where its due, the world, characters etc are all well thought out and cleverly done. I just didn't enjoy reading them.
    They are a bit of a slog to be honest. I have read LOTR and The Hobbit. Tried to read the Silmarillion but couldn't be bothered. Trying to keep up with all of the names, places, relationships and lore is nigh on impossible. Even reading it on wikipedia gives me a brain seizure.

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  • LeoliansBro 16 Dec 2013 16:40:46 44,168 posts
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    I honestly don't know how you can describe the Hobbit as 'a bit of a slog'.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Steve_Perry 16 Dec 2013 16:41:51 4,149 posts
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    Was referring more to LOTR. I can barely remember the Hobbit it's been that long.

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  • LeoliansBro 16 Dec 2013 16:48:09 44,168 posts
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    Fair enough, the LOTR does creak a little under its length. But they aren't that far off Narnia or even Harry Potter.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • SolidSCB 16 Dec 2013 17:01:09 6,702 posts
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    Loved this for the most part. The barrel scene went a bit OTT and the 3D was utterly pointless, but otherwise it was good stuff.

    They definitely took liberties splitting the thing into 3 films though. I was a bit angry about where they ended this one at the time. I've simmered since, but still, fleecing bastards they are.
  • rockavitch 16 Dec 2013 17:03:19 321 posts
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    Saw the second one the other night as I reallyyyyy enjoyed the first one. Other than the Gandalf scenes I actually spent most of it bored, only so many times you can watch an action scene where people throw weapons like a perfectly coreographed dance before it loses all impact.

    Was actually surprised that the manliest thing about a film based on a group of rugged dwarves trying to get under a mountain to slay a dragon was Orlando Bloom... dressed as an elf.

    And that ending... can split the book easily into 3 acts and that's the best they could do.

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  • Steve_Perry 16 Dec 2013 17:08:32 4,149 posts
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    I think I prefer the first one slightly. This one suffers a bit of a lack of humour. It's all a bit grim really. Lack of Gollum perhaps. Hopefully he will pop up in the third somehow.

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  • Deleted user 16 December 2013 17:11:18
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Fair enough, the LOTR does creak a little under its length. But they aren't that far off Narnia or even Harry Potter.
    True, but like I said. It's the writing style I didn't like. I've read the Harry Potter books and never had an issue with them.
  • LeoliansBro 16 Dec 2013 17:18:31 44,168 posts
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    Yes well Harry Potter's obviously a lot simpler and easier. I was referring to 'trying to keep up with all the names, places, relationships'.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • JiveHound 16 Dec 2013 17:26:27 2,434 posts
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    Lord of The Rings suffered for being overtly descriptive for anyone that grew up knowing all about orcs and elves etc. However at the time the books were released it was all new.

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  • Dirtbox 16 Dec 2013 17:45:08 78,145 posts
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    We were thinking about seeing this today, anyone know if it's any good or it's the same load of shite the first one was?

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  • Deleted user 16 December 2013 17:51:05
    it's good. like doubleplusgood you know.

    Edited by statssonic at 17:52:03 16-12-2013
  • Dirtbox 16 Dec 2013 17:54:51 78,145 posts
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    I'll hunt you down if you're lying.

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  • Deleted user 16 December 2013 18:02:10
    if you're expecting something deep then you might disappointed. it's essentially tolkien repackaged for the masses as you're probably already aware.

    Edited by statssonic at 18:02:27 16-12-2013
  • Dirtbox 16 Dec 2013 18:21:30 78,145 posts
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    I suppose my question should really be - how true to the book is it? The first part was so crammed with filler and unnecessary back story that I barely recognised the few parts that remained of the book.

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  • Bremenacht 16 Dec 2013 18:24:25 18,220 posts
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    /Jackson sits down and writes some filler
    /Time passes...
    /Fran says "Hurry up"
  • captainrentboy 16 Dec 2013 18:32:12 991 posts
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    Yep, this one's crammed with scenes, events and characters that are nowhere to be found within the book. So I'd say if you found the first one awful due to its lack of faithfulness to the source, then this one will annoy you in much the same way.

    Personally I thoroughly enjoyed the second film. Although I've read the book just once, for the first time this year and found it merely 'good'.
    So the alterations made don't really bother me in the slightest. :/
  • Deleted user 16 December 2013 18:32:50
    Dirtbox wrote:
    I suppose my question should really be - how true to the book is it? The first part was so crammed with filler and unnecessary back story that I barely recognised the few parts that remained of the book.
    i've only read the hobbit once years ago so i can't remember that much tbh, but i've read that jackson used some of the short stories and backnotes written by tolkien himself so even if it's not in the book then it's not necessarily made up.

    Edited by statssonic at 18:36:04 16-12-2013
  • BritishBlue1 16 Dec 2013 18:35:46 132 posts
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    I can understand some peoples' issue with the books, I couldn't read the LoTR trilogy the whole way through either. Tolkien just seemed to go on and on about inconsequential shite. It was tedious.
    I seem to have the same problem with Game of Thrones. I find the TV series absolutely enthralling but I tried reading the first book and could barely finish the first few chapters. It was like reading a newspaper article. Found out later Mr. Martin used to be a journalist, I wasn't surprised. And besides, reading about the Khaleesi getting her baps out isn't the same as watched her getting her baps out.
  • Dirtbox 16 Dec 2013 18:37:06 78,145 posts
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    Righto, cheers.

    Really annoying that they could have easily got the whole book into a single, well paced 90 minute movie.

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  • Maturin 16 Dec 2013 18:40:52 2,992 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Righto, cheers.

    Really annoying that they could have easily got the whole book into a single, well paced 90 minute movie.
    Don't be rude, it was very nice of the Daily Star's culture critic to pop in.
  • JiveHound 16 Dec 2013 18:46:45 2,434 posts
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    The problem they had was after a three part epic a single Hobbit film would feel like a non event.

    Three films is certainly pushing it and they still don't feel as epic despite the length but I'm actually enjoying it more than I thought I would.

    Really don't think I'll bother with the cinema next time though. Anything longer than 90 minutes in those seats is torturous.

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  • Moot_Point 16 Dec 2013 18:48:38 4,062 posts
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    3D or 2D Dirtbox?

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  • beastmaster 16 Dec 2013 18:52:33 11,411 posts
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    3D IMAX HFR is certainly an experience. As to if it's to ones taste or not is a different matter.

    I wasn't to keen on HFR first time around but it's much improved in this film. It's a lot less boring too.

    Edited by beastmaster at 18:53:12 16-12-2013

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