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  • Steve_Perry 1 May 2013 14:41:15 4,935 posts
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    THIS AINT YO PAPPY'S STAR TREK.

    The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

    VIVA STEFANSEN

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 14:46:18 60,974 posts
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    GiarcYekrub wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    DFawkes wrote:
    You could still do a Prime Universe TV show
    You could but no one would watch it.
    I would, alot of people would, just because alot of people watch something doesn't mean its good, look at the endless stream of reality shows that get stupid ratings. A good solid Star Trek show would I think work well on a service like Netflix. TV gives Star Trek the space to explore issues in more depth than a 2 hour film can.
    None of that means anything. Science fiction is expensive to produce and ratings showed that the audience at large had little to no appetite for star trek anymore, certainly not enough to finance a 20+ episode season.

    Now, in fairness, the audiences receded for the TV show and the movies in conjunction with the franchise being at its lowest ebb in terms of quality, so you can never say for certain that a high quality, prime universe series wouldnt fly but there just isnt the appetite for it at the moment.

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  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 14:46:46 39,508 posts
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    Yes but it wouldn't be your Star Trek.

    As Dfawkes has said as well, that universe was drastically altered by the events of the last film as well.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 14:48:36 60,974 posts
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    No it wasnt. Spock vanished and Romulus blew up, so an old guy went missing and a marginal, B grade villain species are near extinct. Who gives a fuck about that?

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  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 14:52:53 39,508 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    No it wasnt. Spock vanished and Romulus blew up, so an old guy went missing and a marginal, B grade villain species are near extinct. Who gives a fuck about that?
    B grade Villain species?! Did you ever watch star trek?

    A major power in the Alpha quadrant is bought to it's knee's. The Cardies are already on their knees. The Klingons are stronger than ever and the Federatation is left trying to fix the power vacuums.

    Does that sound like business as usual to you?

    BUMDER!

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 14:53:43 60,974 posts
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    Where exactly did all of that happen in the last movie?

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  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 14:55:35 44,722 posts
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    Don't forget Vulcan is gone and the Vulcans as a species number only 10k odd.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 14:56:01 39,508 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Where exactly did all of that happen in the last movie?
    What, the part where Romulus was fucked over? That was explained when old spock meets new kirk.

    The rest is from the end of DS9, the countdown comic book leading to the new film...and erm Star Trek online.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 14:56:33 39,508 posts
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    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Don't forget Vulcan is gone and the Vulcans as a species number only 10k odd.
    That's only in the universe Gayrub hasn't seen.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 14:59:24 60,974 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    Where exactly did all of that happen in the last movie?
    What, the part where Romulus was fucked over? That was explained when old spock meets new kirk.

    The rest is from the end of DS9, the countdown comic book leading to the new film...and erm Star Trek online.
    So, the only thing that happened in the film from your post was the only thing I mentioned that happened in the film? OK then.

    All it means is that there will be no more tedious fucking episodes of ships flying a few lightyears into the neutral zone and back out again like a giant, gay intergalactic game of kabaddi.

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  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 15:00:37 44,722 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Don't forget Vulcan is gone and the Vulcans as a species number only 10k odd.
    That's only in the universe Gayrub hasn't seen.
    That universe doesn't exist anymore, it was overwritten.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 15:01:56 60,974 posts
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    They were *very* explicit that wasnt the case to avoid people like burkey firebombing paramount.

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  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 15:04:11 44,722 posts
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    Yes that's very placatory but patently untrue. Whether you look at things from an in-universe logic (if travelling to the past doesn't change the future why is either Spock bothered Vulcan was destroyed) or from a franchise logic (the original universe will never be used again, just like Sean Connery will never play James Bond again).

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 15:04:28 39,508 posts
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    In the prime universe Vulcan is fine.

    The new universe it doesn't exist.

    The Romulus thing happened in the prime universe.

    In both universe's a species of "Vulcan origin" is fucked over.

    They said the words Parallel universe so people like Gayrub wouldn't melt.

    Edited by mcmonkeyplc at 15:05:48 01-05-2013

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 15:08:07 60,974 posts
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    Theres still universe A merchandise still being produced and its still very much a 'thing' but, yeah, I doubt we will ever see it on film again.

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  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 15:09:28 39,508 posts
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    Thinking about it, I wonder if they fucked over a species of vulcan origin in both universes for a reason?

    Nah

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 16:14:54 44,722 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Theres still universe A merchandise still being produced and its still very much a 'thing' but, yeah, I doubt we will ever see it on film again.
    Yeah, there are still Sean Connery James Bond action figures being produced as well. But as far as making something new (as opposed to memorabilia) that ship has sailed, and they'll never go back to old Star Trek.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 16:18:27 60,974 posts
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    Merch including books, audio CDs and all that caper. There are still stories being told about the original universe.

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  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 16:21:01 44,722 posts
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    Fair enough.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 16:24:24 60,974 posts
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    They even do enterprise books. Fuck knows who buys them though..

    IT WAS A TIME OF TEMPORAL COLD WAR *shuts book*

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  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 16:35:51 39,508 posts
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    Star Trek online is set in the prime universe and that is official canon apparently.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 16:38:06 44,722 posts
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    You really want all that to be canon?

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 16:43:35 39,508 posts
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    Well the main shit that happened during the film and shortly after yeah.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 16:48:18 44,722 posts
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    Number of Borg HyperMegaFanwankCubes destroyed by the Federation: 250,000...

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 16:48:53 39,508 posts
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    Not that bollocks. The main story part.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 16:50:26 44,722 posts
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    Number of Reman Warbirds built during Shinzon's 6 month Praetorship: 100,000. All destroyed by the Federation.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • nickthegun 1 May 2013 16:58:55 60,974 posts
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    Number of personal forcefields deployed on a ships corridor: 10 billion.

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  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 16:59:00 44,722 posts
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    The best Federation ships incorporate Borg technology. Not in a sensible way, but in a Ripped-Off-Borg-Ships-And-Stuck-On-The-Outside-Of-Federation-Ships-As-If-They're-Made-Of-Lego way.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • LeoliansBro 1 May 2013 16:59:32 44,722 posts
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    Number of phaser blasts an unarmoured crewman can take to the chest in a mission: 20-25.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • mcmonkeyplc 1 May 2013 17:22:07 39,508 posts
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    :champ:

    Come and get it cumslingers!

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