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  • ssuellid 11 Oct 2005 17:30:22 19,141 posts
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    A lot of computer oriented TFTs look shit with TV - especially non HDTV. Try before you buy.
  • Fatfish 11 Oct 2005 18:16:36 3,377 posts
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    Yes Bob, you're right - The Spongebob comment was a poor attempt at humour. I apologise. Can I come back in now? Please? 0:)
  • mcmonkeyplc 11 Oct 2005 21:27:33 39,387 posts
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    rhythm wrote:
    deem wrote:
    Whats the smallest you can get? I'd quite like an HDTV in my office - do they come in 17" sizes? I can't find anything other than 32"...

    I spotted a 17" widescreen in Argos that had a res of over 1280x720 but it wasn't "HD-Ready".

    Edit: just looked and most of the 17" widescreens seem to be over 1280x720. this one has some kind of PC input on it too, meaning it wouldn't be a stretch to get decent quality footage on it.

    Edited by rhythm at 08:27:30 11-10-2005

    Wow! Thats impressive for the price! Why it dogs name is the 20 inch screen 100 more for 3 inchs and no freeview oh and it has a lower resolution! 0_o

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • Max_Powers 12 Oct 2005 09:18:56 1,089 posts
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    Focus people, focus! The only HD-question that we need to solve is;
    which 32" (minimum) HD-ready tv will be best for Xbox 360 gaming? For a reasonable price off course.

    Will the LCD tv's give a smear with gaming (as the refresh rate is not as fast with Plasma)?

    Also, there seems to be a huge price difference after you go from 32" to bigger models with LCD. For 32" and over you are almost forced to go with Plasma. What is a good plasma tv?

    /is obsessed with everything 32" :)
  • Deleted user 12 October 2005 11:37:09
    How's this for a possible?

    Clicky
  • [maven] 12 Oct 2005 12:03:52 5,152 posts
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    FluffyTucker wrote:
    Yeah what do you reckon the next gen consoles will spew out? Surely they will output 60hz so all territories output the same? If they use 50hz then it will be a real step backwards for games that normally will run at 30fps as we will get 25fps which really starts to look sluggish :-(
    When you use the VGA cable on the 360, you will get 60Hz (and AFAIK 60Hz *only*). Will be different for component, though.
  • ralphwolfenstein 12 Oct 2005 12:06:40 1,038 posts
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    Max_Powers wrote:
    Focus people, focus! The only HD-question that we need to solve is;
    which 32" (minimum) HD-ready tv will be best for Xbox 360 gaming? For a reasonable price off course.

    Will the LCD tv's give a smear with gaming (as the refresh rate is not as fast with Plasma)?

    Also, there seems to be a huge price difference after you go from 32" to bigger models with LCD. For 32" and over you are almost forced to go with Plasma. What is a good plasma tv?

    /is obsessed with everything 32" :)

    well I am going to take my chances with the samsung 32" LE32R41B

    It's the LCD screen MS are using in all their pods, and the reviews I've seen suggest a good trade-off between performance and price (think it's around 800 atm, but you can get the 28" model for 650)
  • Deleted user 12 October 2005 12:20:07
    Just found the same TV with an integrated digital tuner for only 50 more at Play.com. 900 all in.

    I'm going to buy it now. :D

    Clicky
  • Deleted user 12 October 2005 12:21:38
    Clicky for the full spec direct from samsung.

    /adds to basket.
  • ssuellid 12 Oct 2005 12:41:47 19,141 posts
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    ralphwolfenstein wrote:
    well I am going to take my chances with the samsung 32" LE32R41B

    Have you seen this?

    Tearing problems at 60hz 720p. The thread starts good with Samsung admitting there is a problem and that they have a fix but by page 36 its seems a bit iffy still.
  • James-Caldari 12 Oct 2005 13:28:46 2,103 posts
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    What about hooking up a 32" 'TV LCD' to a PC? I've seen 23" 'PC LCD's' going for around 800, which is comparible with 'TV LCD's'.

  • ralphwolfenstein 12 Oct 2005 14:06:14 1,038 posts
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    Probably a dumb question, but if you're not that bothered by the TV capabilities, can you hook up your 360 to a decent PC monitor and get the same visual performance?
  • ssuellid 12 Oct 2005 14:16:50 19,141 posts
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    James Caldari wrote:
    What about hooking up a 32" 'TV LCD' to a PC?

    A lot are picky about what res and hz you use so you will have to check the capabilities of your graphics card. Also some only seem support PC connection better through VGA than DVI.

    Worth checking AVforums when you have a few models in mind.
  • Max_Powers 12 Oct 2005 16:24:15 1,089 posts
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    HairyArse wrote:
    Just found the same TV with an integrated digital tuner for only 50 more at Play.com. 900 all in.

    I'm going to buy it now. :D

    Thanks, I had my eye on that model myself. Tomorrow I'll be able to see one in action on an Xbox360 with PDZ so, finally analysis then.




  • Hicksy 13 Oct 2005 13:14:01 2,592 posts
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    I am very tempted by the 26" version of the Samsung tv with digi tuner = about 630 best price find.

    26" is apparantly the "optimal" size for picture sharpness? I know little about this buts that what an article suggested..

    Anyhow tempting! o_O
  • Max_Powers 14 Oct 2005 13:26:03 1,089 posts
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    The Samsung one, LE32M51B or LE32R51B is the one to go for if you have a reasonably sized living room. Any bigger and it's pretty in you face (some people like that though)

    After seeing it in action I can see why Samsung is the official partner brand for Xbox 360. Nice, and reasonably priced

  • HarryB 15 Oct 2005 17:48:50 6,111 posts
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    I'm now going to buy a 26" instead of 32" LCD as I've seen some 32" running normal sources like freeview or an xbox through rgb and it gets too blurry with bigger screens

    I'll have a 26" LCD to replace my cheapo 250 28" JVC Widescreen by Christmas, I just hope these things are as good as people say.
  • ProfessorLesser 16 Oct 2005 11:45:58 19,352 posts
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    Furbs wrote:
    Maybe the HDTV is happening a bit quicker than I expected...
    Bet it wouldn't've done if it weren't for the 360.

    Bloody forced gen.
  • terminalterror 16 Oct 2005 12:07:06 18,937 posts
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    ProfessorLesser wrote:
    Furbs wrote:
    Maybe the HDTV is happening a bit quicker than I expected...
    Bet it wouldn't've done if it weren't for the 360.

    Bloody forced gen.

    Errrr, its just us and our backwards continent. The US, Japan and even Australia have had HDTV for ages, whereas here, even come 2006 it'll only be on Sky at exhorbitant cost.
  • HarryB 16 Oct 2005 20:59:12 6,111 posts
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    fuck sky, hello newsgroups
  • Max_Powers 17 Oct 2005 12:30:34 1,089 posts
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    Yeah at that's the only reason to buy HDtv anyway- gaming and movies.

    I don't care how regular television broadcast looks on the (HD) telly, the signal is shit either way.

    Size matters.
  • Max_Powers 17 Oct 2005 12:32:28 1,089 posts
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    Quick question though - which is better for image quality HDMI, DVI or component? Because Xbox 360 only comes with the latter.

    Cheers
  • HarryB 17 Oct 2005 13:48:47 6,111 posts
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    so what you're forcing me to do is buy a bigger LCD
    FUCK!
    Mum !! :(
    /cries
  • TwistidChimp 17 Oct 2005 14:14:07 8,825 posts
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    Quick question, T3 magazine, has reviewed a plasma and given it 5 out of 5, its 42" and only 1800 online. They say its hd ready, and it has hdmi etc. However the resolution is 1024 x 1024. This isn't a hidef resolution that i recognise, and its a wide screen ? can anyone tell me whats going on in regards to the resolution. is this really HD ready ?

    link
  • ssuellid 17 Oct 2005 15:46:15 19,141 posts
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    The signal sent over HDMI and DVI is the same so identical picture quality*.

    Component and VGA are a little worse as the image has been converted from its native digital format to analogue and then an LCD/Plasma/DLP would convert it back to digital again.


    *depending on cables etc.
  • HarryB 17 Oct 2005 19:10:23 6,111 posts
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    rhythm wrote:
    HarryB wrote:
    so what you're forcing me to do is buy a bigger LCD
    FUCK!
    Mum !! :(
    /cries

    :-)

    If you're buying a 26" you're only £100 or so from the next size up. Think how pissed off you'll be if you get the 26" and realise you really wanted the 28"

    what magazine has good reviews on stuff like this
    I dont see a 28" lcd anywhere to be honest... help me :)

    I want good reviews for those samsungs microsoft use and a few alternatives you guys might think are better

    thank you
  • ccfb 23 Oct 2005 11:14:05 337 posts
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    I am confused. What connectors will the HD output from the xb360 use? I presume for those without HD equipment you'll still have the usual Scart option, but what cabling etc will enable HD?

    still tempted by rhythm's misco link a while back...

    Edited by ccfb at 11:18:50 23-10-2005
  • deem 24 Oct 2005 20:00:19 31,641 posts
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  • HarryB 25 Oct 2005 11:42:20 6,111 posts
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    I'm buying a Sharp 32GA6E 32" LCD
    do you buffs know anything that would stop me buying this?

    I don't want a samsung, they are too common... the sharp has 2 rgb, hdmi, vga, and it looks way better
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