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  • Deleted user 4 April 2015 09:56:34
    @pogomeister

    The thing about Kill La Kill is that its equally pervy towards men (at least a bit later on when Nudist Beach come into it)
    I enjoyed it, but it definitely isn't something I'd put on while the missus is in the room, regardless of the above...
  • Razz 14 Nov 2015 16:11:43 63,149 posts
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    Just started watching One Punch Man. Very funny stuff.
  • Ror 20 Dec 2015 22:45:02 15,626 posts
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    Having only recently gotten around to it, I'd like to add Madoka Magica to my earlier list. It's not the kind of show you'd expect it to be, given the visual style.

    Really enjoyed it, and now I need to get the film.

    EDIT Also, EIGHT THOUSAND POOOOOOOOSTS.

    Edited by Ror at 22:45:40 20-12-2015
  • mAc6 21 Dec 2015 00:57:46 3,159 posts
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    I watched an episode of Queens Blade II with French subtitles, JPN voice, it was beautiful as ever, although I prefer bigger areola's in general
  • Rivuzu 21 Dec 2015 08:53:22 15,975 posts
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    Shame One Punch Man was only 12 episodes. It was bloody great.
  • Ror 21 Dec 2015 19:25:45 15,626 posts
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    To be honest, I'm quite glad for 12/13 episode shows at the moment. I seem to be struggling to get through 24/25/26 episode series' these days. I started Kill La Kill about a year ago and still haven't made it halfway.

    /no attention span
  • The-Bodybuilder 24 Dec 2015 14:04:28 16,690 posts
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    Just finished One Punch Man.

    As others said, absolute shame it's only 12 episodes. I'm actually suffering from withdrawals now. Absolutely amazing stuff, had me in stitches in some places, unlike the comedy I find in most manga, which I always find too childish and too specific to manga and Japanese culture.

    I'm intrigued to see just how they can keep it up having a protoganist so powerful, he finishes everyone with a single punch, even galactic beings, but so far, they've done a tremendous job in that it's not the anticipation of his battles that are interesting, but what the fall out will be from them (will he get recognition? What happens to the other heroes in the battles, etc.).

    Quite clever.
  • azurelas_2 10 Feb 2016 21:40:22 1,746 posts
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    I've been looking for this thread...

    Anyway, I've recently (just yesterday actually) started watching Berserk. I still can't quite believe how far ahead of it's time it was, and how dark is can be. It's amazing.
  • senso-ji 10 Feb 2016 21:44:08 7,908 posts
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    @azurelas_2

    The original anime series or the three films that were released a few years ago? The latter are some of the best animated features ever, really great mixture of 2d and 3d animation techniques.

    The manga is even better, and will blow your mind in some areas. The anime is based off the first 13 volumes (out of 37 and counting).

    Edited by senso-ji at 21:44:20 10-02-2016
  • Deleted user 10 February 2016 22:25:58
    Gaaaaaaaatsssss!!!!

    Despite enjoying the original series, for some reason I never got past the first feature film (think I was watching them as they released at the time)... I'll have to give them another shot too.
  • senso-ji 10 Feb 2016 22:45:04 7,908 posts
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    The first one does move at a slow pace but the second and particularly third films are very good. The eclipse section is done very well, especially that part.

    Edited by senso-ji at 22:45:24 10-02-2016
  • Ror 10 Feb 2016 23:38:44 15,626 posts
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    Funnily enough, I was thinking about Berserk the other day. I was sorting out some old games and realised that I'm missing a few from every bloody console. One of the DC games I'm missing is the Berserk game.
  • drhickman1983 10 Feb 2016 23:43:31 4,733 posts
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    I've only watched them once but I didn't like the newer Berserk films. They worked as fan service but as standalone films they just didn't work for me; things were glossed over to the point where if I hadn't read the manga and seen the older series (which I think was pretty cool if basic) I wouldn't really know what was happening.

    They did look pretty cool and the fights were really well done, but they did a bad job at actually conveying the story. I also missed Susumu Hirasawa's score from the old series.
  • azurelas_2 11 Feb 2016 14:14:13 1,746 posts
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    I thought Game of Thrones was dark and unnecessarily cruel, then I watched *that* ending (it's somehow even more offensive in the manga).


    Is it me or did Casca seem to be enjoying herself at the end of the last movie? I've never been squeemish about anything, but I almost threw up.
  • senso-ji 11 Feb 2016 14:18:14 7,908 posts
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    It's deliberately ambiguous, I think. Throughout the story, her emotions are torn between the two men, so that scene represents her confusion as to what's happening rather than horror.
  • MaxiPlay 11 Feb 2016 14:29:56 37 posts
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    Can anybody explain why do you like the anime so much?? It thought a lot about it, but couldn't understand the difference between anime and other interesting cartoons. I understand the Naruto or the series where there are super heroes, but I don't understand philosophical anime(
  • azurelas_2 11 Feb 2016 14:35:00 1,746 posts
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    @senso-ji You make an interesting point.

    Anyway, does anyone have any decent recommendations? I've watched all the obvious ones (DBZ/GT, DB Super/Kai, Naruto and Shippuden*, One Piece, Death Note**, Berserk, Samurai Jack***, Afro Samurai, Gundam Wing, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack On Titan and Pokemon/Digimon****). I've heard some good things about One Punch Man, Hunter X Hunter and Fullmetal Alchemist.

    *I'll make a slightly controversial statement here; Naruto is better than any Dragon Ball saga ever was. At least story-wise. BUT, and this is a major But, it's so full of padding that it could put people off. One season they're in a massive battle, the very next season they'll spend 40+ episodes of flashbacks on every major AND minor character that people just gave up. Thankfully most of it is out on the usual websites, so you can skip the fluff, but imagine having to wait every week for a new episode where nothing happened. That's how annoying it can be.

    **Death Note is vastly overrated. I found it beyond boring, but I might give it another go since I'm older and ever so slightly wiser now.

    *** Does Samurai Jack even qualify as anime? Anyway, it's brilliant fun (even if it's essentially a kid's cartoon).

    I still find myself watching them on Netflix, even though I'm fully aware that they're both really shit. It's more for nostalgic purposes than anything, really.

    Edited by azurelas_2 at 14:54:22 11-02-2016
  • Godofporn 11 Feb 2016 14:38:10 6,378 posts
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    azurelas_2 wrote:
    @senso-ji You make an interesting point.

    Anyway, does anyone have any decent recommendations? I've watched all the obvious ones (DBZ/GT, DB Super/Kai, Naruto and Shippuden*, One Piece, Death Note**, Berserk, Samurai Jack***, Afro Samurai, Gundam Wing, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack On Titan and Pokemon/Digimon****). I've heard some good things about One Punch Man, Hunter X Hunter and Fullmetal Alchemist.
    Death note and the guyver
  • Ror 11 Feb 2016 14:45:06 15,626 posts
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    Gurren Lagann
    Madoka Magica (no, really)
    Claymore
    Elfen Lied
    Hellsing
    RahXephon
    Evangelion
    Highschool of the Dead
    Steins;Gate (though you should really play the game instead)
    Noein
    BLEACH - first three seasons are good at least, I stopped there.

    Whatever you do, don't watch She, the Ultimate Weapon.

    This thread always reminds me that I have so much unwatched anime :( I should try to remedy that.
  • azurelas_2 11 Feb 2016 14:46:18 1,746 posts
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    @MaxiPlay I think it's because most decent anime deals with mature subjects (war, politics, meaning of life, cruelty of man, sexuality*) that you'd never encounter in mainstream *Western" animation.

    I'd also like to think that people enjoy anime because simply put it allows for more artistic freedom. I can't imagine Berserk** working in live action + CGI, especially since it was made in the late 90's and it'd look horribly outdated now. Also, the visual consistency allows for a more coherent world, and you're not as likely to be pulled out of the illusion.

    *Berserk does this exceptionally well, even to the point where one of the main protagonist's sexuality is so ambiguous that I was shocked that the series was even made, keeping in mind the anime came out (pun not intended) in the late 90's in Japan of all places.

    **Sorry to keep raving about Berserk, but it truly was far ahead of it's time.

    Edited by azurelas_2 at 14:55:23 11-02-2016
  • SpaceMonkey77 11 Feb 2016 14:50:00 695 posts
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    Oh no, you've entered the anime zone.

    For complete stories the following are good.

    Hellsing Ultimate. Great action and story madness for what could have been just another vamp tale. (10 volumes of manga of it, alternatively) High five.

    Full Metal Alchemist is an epic series, one of the best anime series in the last few years. 64 eps of fun await. Good story and action stuff. High five.

    Black Lagoon is also good fun with good action and story. High five.

    Jormundgand is similar to Black Lagoon, but still has its own feel and is cool. First series is cool, but the second You'll have to check reviews. Probably good too. High five.

    Death Note is cool, for its weird premise. High five. (also manga version)

    Darker Than Black is a good fun tale. Just avoid the second series as it isn't that good. Your call. High five.

    Cowboy Bebop is a classic. One for those who aren't sure about anime, and what it can be at its greatest. Out of Blu Ray too. Why can't all anime be this good? High five.

    Outlaw Star came out around the same time as Bebop, but still good in its own right. Can be bagged for like 10 for the full series. High Four.


    For incomplete but cool anime, Guyver (90's Manga Video version (rare), and recent 21st century series remake) is cool. Guyver manga is cool, but you'd have to import all 31 volumes from Singapore to get them in english. Pity its was never ongoing in english past 8 volumes in the U.S, but it didn't gain enough fans, boo! Guyver gets way cooler as the tale goes on. If you can, chase them in english.

    Berserk is way cool, but best to run with the recent movie versions (on dvd and blu ray), than the older tv series (dvd), which only tells the tale so far. The movie versions will hopefully tell the whole tale eventually. ((And if you can't wait for all the Berserk movies to come out, the Berserk graphic novel manga is available in english, all 35 volumes of it. Go mine, Amazon etc))

    Claymore is a similar situation. The dvd series is way cool, but only goes so far into the tale, before it ends. The Claymore graphic novels go much further and might still be going now. Again, Amazon is your friend, so check.


    Those are a few of my faves, that are enough not to bore or annoy, those who hate/dislike the animoos. Some might be of a mature nature, so you've been told.

    Peace.

    Edited by SpaceMonkey77 at 14:51:36 11-02-2016
  • MaxiPlay 11 Feb 2016 14:53:44 37 posts
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    @azurelas_2 Thank you for detailed explanation and I think that I'll see that series as anime has a lot of fans, so I think that they have mutual point of views in their lives))
    Also, I didn't see any anime that deals with war, politics and other problems of social matter.. What are they, for example?
  • SpaceMonkey77 11 Feb 2016 14:54:36 695 posts
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    @Ror

    Or should that be don't watch She, Elfen Lied, HotD or Queens Blade?

    HotD had such potential, but skeezed it up, unnecessarily. Pity.
  • Ror 11 Feb 2016 14:54:37 15,626 posts
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    In Claymore's case, the anime adapts 11 of the 27 volumes, but then caps the series off with an alternate ending. It's still very worth watching as its own thing, but it does leave you yearning for more. I so wish that show got a second season.

    I've been meaning to read the full manga run, but only managed the first few volumes.
  • Ror 11 Feb 2016 14:56:53 15,626 posts
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    SpaceMonkey77 wrote:
    @Ror

    Or should that be don't watch She, Elfen Lied, HotD or Queens Blade?

    HotD had such potential, but skeezed it up, unnecessarily. Pity.
    HOTD has a bit too much unnecessary fanservice for sure, I definitely wouldn't argue that. And it does damage it a bit because it's damaging to the otherwise fantastic, thick atmosphere the show has. I still think it's well worth a watch, though. I enjoyed Elfen Lied though, I think it works better in that show.

    She just shouldn't be watched by anyone. Pointlessly bleak, IMO.
  • SpaceMonkey77 11 Feb 2016 15:18:32 695 posts
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    @Maxi

    I guess its down to what you want from animation. I can watch Samurai Jack, South Park, Family Guy and enjoy them for what they are, which for those latter two are half hour fun and comedy. Comedy has always been a good partner and use for animation, hence that's why that all we mostly digest it as, and mostly see on tv.

    Animation has always been capable of more than just that comedy genre, and anime, from japan (or not IMO) tries to deliver other tales, in a similar way that comics can also do, but have in some case been restricted from doing.

    Most fans of anime, just want a good story and character (myself), while others will look for its cliched character tropes to enjoy, which IMO, hold most j-anime back, from being more.

    One of the reason comics are so hot right now, is the growth of nerd culture and aging of its fans. The likes of Pacific Rim, show that Del Toro has taste for some old school mecha anime, and we might never have seen it otherwise. I long for Pacific Rim 2 and so should you.

    If you desire something a little deeper and thought provoking, try MS Gundam, Evangelion, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Armored Trooper Votoms, which might have more skull digs behind the action, from strings tight and loose.
  • drhickman1983 11 Feb 2016 15:19:04 4,733 posts
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    Whilst the old Berserk series just ends, I quite like the bleakness of it ending on that note.

    The manga is exceptional, the artwork is staggering. A stupid level of detail. I do think the best arc was the Golden Age covered in the both anime versions.

    I'm not a massive anime fan, I just like stuff here and there. Like most other mediums some of it is great and large swathes of it is awful.

    I really like Bakuman. It's based on a manga by the same duo who did Death Note, but it's much more grounded in reality, just telling the story about some high school students who try to pursue a career in writing manga. Quite optimistic and enjoyable.

    I rate Welcome to the NHK quite highly too, it's about a shut-in, a so called hikikomori, and about a girls attempts to rehabilitate him to a normal life. Quite funny and some nice surrealistic elements.

    Serial Experiments Lain is also good, but very weird and surreal. Quite David Lynch-esque, maybe. About a girl who starts to explore the Wired, that universes internet, after her friend commits suicide and starts to uncover a conspiracy. Very odd.
  • SpaceMonkey77 11 Feb 2016 15:23:09 695 posts
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    Just a thought, how good could a new Guyver movie/tv series be done today?

    CG and practical effects have got so good, that it could be much better. Where anime might not be able to complete a tale, others could try. Plus, I'm not seeing anything like it out there either.
  • Rivuzu 11 Feb 2016 15:24:29 15,975 posts
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    Note: If you're watching Full Metal Alchemist, make sure it's Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood. DO NOT WATCH THE ORIGINAL SERIES. It follows the manga half way, and then ends up aborting itself and drawing the rest of the scenes with what was left of the wire hanger.

    See also: Edwaaaaardo... T_T
  • drhickman1983 11 Feb 2016 15:30:27 4,733 posts
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    SpaceMonkey77 wrote:
    Just a thought, how good could a new Guyver movie/tv series be done today?

    CG and practical effects have got so good, that it could be much better. Where anime might not be able to complete a tale, others could try. Plus, I'm not seeing anything like it out there either.
    Well, it depends on the budget. Assuming the budget was big enough it could be realised pretty well. But good quality CGI and practical effects aren't cheap, to do a TV series with a weekly, good, Zoanoid fight would cost a small fortune. A film would stand a better chance of being financed.
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