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  • aros 5 Nov 2013 10:12:26 3,062 posts
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    But we know for a fact the Wii U works well and it's exactly the same technology - I don't understand why people are skeptical?
  • nickthegun 5 Nov 2013 10:21:11 60,436 posts
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    Because until we see it working, its just PR guff.

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  • aros 5 Nov 2013 10:52:01 3,062 posts
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    I guess. It's more faith in Nintendo's tech than Sony's that makes me so confident it will work fine. If there was no Wii U I don't know if I would have pre-ordered given the scant lineup of launch day. At the moment I'm leaning toward AC4 after Watch Dogs was pushed back.
  • Flying_Pig 17 Jan 2014 21:16:43 11,157 posts
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    Kotaku <3 Vita TV
  • INSOMANiAC 21 Jan 2014 22:20:43 3,833 posts
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    Vita TV in action, Ninja Gaiden looked great and not at all up ressed as far as you can tell from this kind of thing

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  • uiruki 21 Jan 2014 23:12:16 3,708 posts
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    Huh, I didn't write anything about this.

    If you run it in 1080i it looks pretty close to a 2:1 integer scale and gets on pretty well in native res games. It isn't too bad to control with a pad, but you have to work out what it wants as it doesn't explain it too well. It works well with Plus as I can play while out, sync saves and carry on with my Vita TV. Some games even give you full PS3 pad button prompts too, so it can clearly detect which model it is working on. PSP games are ridiculously pixelated but sharp in 1080.

    My main complaints are that it's not 100% compatible due to the nature of the thing, I ran into the odd game which just plays badly without a touchscreen (targeting is even worse than it was in Senran Kagura), and PS1 games force the system to switch to 720 which doesn't scale brilliantly.

    Actually my biggest complaint is that because it's not designed to work in countries without Vita TV sections in the store, I might have to swap memory cards on my Vita to play TxK and OlliOlli anyway.

    edit: oh, and it doesn't fix the awful network speeds when you run through Ethernet like it does on PS3.

    Edited by uiruki at 00:33:17 22-01-2014
  • INSOMANiAC 10 Jun 2014 03:38:46 3,833 posts
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    Rebranded 'Playstation TV' and the fact it plays Vita games barely mentioned.

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  • Flying_Pig 10 Jun 2014 09:36:05 11,157 posts
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    But at least it's definitely getting a European release!

    If it comes in at under 100 - a piece of kit which plays PSV, PSP and PSOne games, plus streams PS4 games and the usual TV services, with the added future promise of playing PS3 games via 'teh cloud' is a pretty compelling prospect!

    Dripping the Vita name is a touch odd, but I guess Sony want its audience to be as wide as possible.

    Edit: A bit more info

    Edited by Flying_Pig at 09:54:43 10-06-2014
  • CharlieStCloud 10 Jun 2014 10:20:01 5,280 posts
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    $99 is 99 is 99

    ... come on Sony, stop treating us like this.

    I am surprised the bundle pack includes the PlayStation TV, a DualShock (3) pad, an 8GB memory card along with a digital version of The LEGO Movie when packing in Minecraft (the PS Vita version) instead of the LEGO game is surely a much better move.

    I think this could go either way to be honest; a surprise hit or a bit of a flop.
  • Flying_Pig 10 Jun 2014 10:22:32 11,157 posts
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    @CharlieStCloud - I'm more hopeful of a 99/79 price tag...

    Totally agree with you on the Minecraft point!
  • muttler 10 Jun 2014 10:28:32 4,132 posts
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    Any word on the Netflix app coming to Vita in the UK?
  • ZuluHero 10 Jun 2014 10:32:26 4,200 posts
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    So how does all the touch screen stuff translate - something like tearaway that has a lot of it?
  • aros 10 Jun 2014 10:33:03 3,062 posts
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    I would guess Minecraft is going to be this holiday season's main Vita bundle? Could make it a big hit - kids love Minecraft and parents would rather they were on a handheld than the main TV or the PC, where Gary Glitter can get them by building an in game box, stick and rope.

    If Sony are smart they will create a limited edition Vita with a Minecraft design - you have to say, Nintendo never miss an opportunity to sell limited edition consoles and Sony should take up this particular strategy.

    Was there a COD Vita a couple of years ago? There should have been a LBP one, a Killzone one, a Tearaway one and a BL2 one. Perhaps a Football Manager Vita with the rear touch designed like an old-style tactics board? The circles around the Dpad and face-buttons could have been footballs, the analogue sticks too, with a Football Manager Classic 14 logo along the top of the screen.

    Edited by aros at 10:34:23 10-06-2014
  • Deleted user 10 June 2014 10:33:30
    I'm interest to see what this does. If done right, it could easily become a great little gaming console on the cheap.
  • Flying_Pig 10 Jun 2014 10:56:09 11,157 posts
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    ZuluHero wrote:
    So how does all the touch screen stuff translate - something like tearaway that has a lot of it?
    It doesn't - anything which requires use of the Vita's touch screen, camera or rear touch pad won't work on the PS TV (unless the developer patches it).

    Edited by Flying_Pig at 10:56:20 10-06-2014
  • uiruki 10 Jun 2014 11:03:37 3,708 posts
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    @ZuluHero a lot of games are just incompatible. If there's been no reprogramming then even games which "should" work don't - Tales of Hearts R, for example.

    Depends on the game though - Gundam Musou actually shows up proper controller prompts and even works with R3 as lockon.

    Edited by uiruki at 11:04:43 10-06-2014
  • ZuluHero 10 Jun 2014 11:11:41 4,200 posts
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    Seems a bit like they've shot themselves in the foot a little - in the push to create new game play experiences, they've eliminated a lot of what will make this a system seller.

    Looks like i will just keep my vita :)
  • Razz 11 Jun 2014 12:34:33 61,391 posts
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    84.99 and no DS3 or HDMI cable? Nope. No thank you.

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  • monkman76 11 Jun 2014 12:53:33 4,721 posts
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    NO HDMI CABLE?!
  • aros 11 Jun 2014 13:06:37 3,062 posts
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    I am DISGUSTED they expect me to buy a 1 HDMI cable - or use one of the multiple cables that are in every household lying around! SHOCKING.
  • SomaticSense 11 Jun 2014 13:06:53 8,691 posts
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    Wow. Sony have fumbled regarding the price announcement.

    60 was 'Hmm, interesting' territory, but 85 firmly enters the 'this is a pisstake, right?' realm.

    85 for the base unit. 40 for a DS3. 80+ for a 64gb memory card. A few quid for an HDMI cable. Over 205, with no games. Quite expensive, no?
  • aros 11 Jun 2014 13:09:17 3,062 posts
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    I would say it's likely most buyers will already have a DS3 from their PS3. The bundle with a controller will surely be 99 or 109 though and it comes with a 8gb card. If you have a Vita already, I think you are meant to swap the memory between devices?

    So it's more like 111 when you factor in an HDMI cable if you own a Vita and no PS3, 86 if you own a PS3 and no Vita - I don't think I am interested in the device as I already have a Vita and a Smart TV but there's no way you are looking at 205 to get started.

    Edited by aros at 13:10:56 11-06-2014
  • uiruki 11 Jun 2014 13:13:02 3,708 posts
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    Swapping memory cards is a pain in the arse as you have to fully power down etc. I recall it losing bubble position when I first did it, but that may have changed now. I keep a 64 in my vita and a 32 in my TV. The pad/memory card pack will end up being decent value if they don't mess up the pricing.

    Edit: it does come with an HDMI cable too (at least my Japanese one did), they're not totally hopeless!

    Edited by uiruki at 13:15:50 11-06-2014
  • SomaticSense 11 Jun 2014 13:19:36 8,691 posts
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    aros wrote:
    I would say it's likely most buyers will already have a DS3 from their PS3. The bundle with a controller will surely be 99 or 109 though and it comes with a 8gb card. If you have a Vita already, I think you are meant to swap the memory between devices?
    As a PS4/Vita owner, that's why I feel the difference between the initial 'almost the price of a game '60 suggestion from the media and the 85 reality is significant enough to make me go from "may buy", to "no way".

    85 is too much, imo, to pay for what would amount to an accessory for PS4/Vita/PS3 owners, and the cost of all the needed extea gumpf (and the 8gb card will not nearly be enough for a household gaming device) is way too expensive an amount to pay for what would, to those people, essentially be a sub-PS3 powered 'console' costing nearly as much as a Wii U.
  • uiruki 11 Jun 2014 13:29:45 3,708 posts
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    It works with a DS4 as well so all you'd need is a spare memory card. It comes with the same 1gb internal as the Vita 2000 as well, so you're fine if you want to play stuff on game card. As I said, they might have improved handling of bubbles when going across as they've upgraded the firmware a fair few times since I last tried it.
  • Flying_Pig 11 Jun 2014 13:37:38 11,157 posts
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    I would have been OK with paying 85 if it had come with a DS3 and/or decent memory card, but 85 for the standalone unit is pretty toppish. Hopefully Amazon will come in slightly cheaper...?
  • Razz 11 Jun 2014 14:32:31 61,391 posts
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    The no hdmi outrage was a guess as Sony mentioned the US game and controller bundle to have a hdmi cable but mentioned nothing about the vanilla pack having one. Still its just a little too expensive imo, 70-75 is a sweet spot for me, 85 and I want some extras.

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  • monkman76 11 Jun 2014 14:59:05 4,721 posts
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    I'm tempted, just to stream PS4 games to a different telly - in which case I wouldn't need more than the 1GB internal storage would I? Plus I already have a spare DS4.
  • SomaticSense 11 Jun 2014 15:14:13 8,691 posts
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    monkman76 wrote:
    I'm tempted, just to stream PS4 games to a different telly - in which case I wouldn't need more than the 1GB internal storage would I? Plus I already have a spare DS4.
    How would the image look on another HDTV if it's being streamed via a Vita though?

    The image looks heavily compressed already when using remote play on the Vita's small screen, but it still looks great due to the small image size. Surely it'll look extremely noticeable if that image is then stretched to fit a 40 inch TV.
  • Psiloc 11 Jun 2014 15:20:31 1,477 posts
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    Part of me wishes I had a use for one of these.
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