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  • superdelphinus 20 Nov 2012 00:35:28 8,127 posts
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    Bios for me to. I wouldn't know what the fuck uefi means. Interesting that iOS autocorrects uefi to Jedi
  • superdelphinus 20 Nov 2012 00:36:00 8,127 posts
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    Ps, boots in 3 seconds?!
  • Sharzam 20 Nov 2012 19:34:07 3,365 posts
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    UEFI is the replacment for BIOS. It is still the layer between hardware and the OS but is a newer standard i believe IBM came up with it in the early noughties but is only making its way into mainstream motherboards now.

    Edited by Sharzam at 19:35:58 20-11-2012

    Known as 'Sharzam' in 98.5% of games

  • RobTheBuilder 13 Jan 2013 14:36:51 6,521 posts
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    @Graveland If the core 2 quad is still capable (not sure on that) and the PSU has enough capacity then just spending 120 on a good graphics card should make upgrading a viable short term option.

    You could then use that graphics card in a new system later on.

    Alternatively you could create a medium spec system that should run those games pretty well.
  • Bremenacht 13 Jan 2013 16:38:53 19,665 posts
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    @Graveland You probably could build that into something reasonable by selecting matching parts. You have to ask yourself whether you want to invest your cash in something that's fairly old now. You could maybe compromise by getting the right stuff off eBay, but getting the right stuff and having it work without problem will require care and attention. Whether it'd run those games decently enough, I just don't know.

    Have a read of this thread first, from about page 70 onwards. It's the budget PC thread. You'll see a lot of decent sub-500 builds on there, along with suggestions on places to buy from. Sport's account of how he went about building his budget PC is just great.

    See what you think after you've had a read.
  • WoodenSpoon 13 Jan 2013 17:48:42 12,306 posts
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    Arma 2 is pretty CPU intensive as well afaik - something to bare in mind if you're upgrading for it.
  • RobTheBuilder 13 Jan 2013 18:55:02 6,521 posts
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    @Graveland do you have the exact model of core 2 quad?
    (e.g.: Q9550)
  • Clive_Dunn 13 Jan 2013 19:37:42 4,790 posts
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    If you decide to upgrade try this -

    CPU/Mobo/Ram

    GPU

    I got a similar CPU/mobo a few weeks ago, to join up with a 6950 graphics card, and the difference for Planetside 2 was immense.
  • FutileResistor 13 Jan 2013 19:53:27 1,239 posts
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    Graveland wrote:
    Hello folks. I'm considering upgrading my PC. It's been around 8 years since I last did it, so as you can imagine I'm virtually a noob in knowing what I should buy in terms of increasing the performance for gaming. Ideally, I'm looking to build a rig that could run Arma II and more specifically DayZ at a decent standard.

    My budget is around 450, and in my current rig I have no graphics card because my last one died.

    My current specs are:
    Processor - Intel Core2 Quad Cpu @2.40GHz
    RAM - 3.00GB
    System - 32-Bit Vista.

    Would I be able to boost this easily by replacing some of the parts, or would I be better off simply starting from scratch?

    Any advice is greatly appreciated.
    Overclock the C2Q to 3GHz.

    Get this Radeon 7870 for 145 delivered.

    Or a 1GB 7850 for about 125.
  • RobTheBuilder 13 Jan 2013 20:22:14 6,521 posts
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    Suggestion above is good, just check your psu capabilities first.
  • heyyo 14 Jan 2013 16:25:17 14,369 posts
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    To overclock the CPU you'd just go into BIOS and up the voltage a bit in there.

    Edited by heyyo at 16:25:32 14-01-2013
  • Buztafen 14 Jan 2013 16:30:08 16,532 posts
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    Graveland wrote:
    FutileResistor wrote:
    Graveland wrote:
    Hello folks. I'm considering upgrading my PC. It's been around 8 years since I last did it, so as you can imagine I'm virtually a noob in knowing what I should buy in terms of increasing the performance for gaming. Ideally, I'm looking to build a rig that could run Arma II and more specifically DayZ at a decent standard.

    My budget is around 450, and in my current rig I have no graphics card because my last one died.

    My current specs are:
    Processor - Intel Core2 Quad Cpu @2.40GHz
    RAM - 3.00GB
    System - 32-Bit Vista.

    Would I be able to boost this easily by replacing some of the parts, or would I be better off simply starting from scratch?

    Any advice is greatly appreciated.
    Overclock the C2Q to 3GHz.

    Get this Radeon 7870 for 145 delivered.

    Or a 1GB 7850 for about 125.
    Is it relatively easy to overclock the CPU? If so, getting an installing the graphics card shouldn't be a problem as I've done it before.
    For what it's worth i have a Q6600 overclocked at 3.4ghz using a Corsair A50 Cooler, 4gb of DDR2 and a recently purchased GTX560Ti 448. Other than the GPU ive been using that setup for around 5 years.

    Recently started playing DayZ and it plays perfectly well. 60fps in most places.

    What motherboard do you have Gravelord? If its a Gigabyte you might be able to use similar setting to me to get an overclock depending on BIOS type.

    Edited by Buztafen at 16:33:48 14-01-2013
  • FutileResistor 14 Jan 2013 19:02:01 1,239 posts
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    Graveland wrote:
    Is it relatively easy to overclock the CPU? If so, getting an installing the graphics card shouldn't be a problem as I've done it before.
    There are loads of guides.

    For example.
  • GreasyWeasel 29 Jan 2013 13:55:35 463 posts
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    Hi Guys,

    I am looking to build myself a good gaming pc after being out of the pc building scene for many years. I have done my research, saved my money and come up with the below list of parts. I would very much appreciate it if you could take a quick look over it and make sure I haven't missed anything silly.

    My requirements are that this will be a gaming pc only (I have my iMac for everything else). I want it to be fast and play all current games at high resolutions (TV - 1920x1080, PC monitor - 1920x1200 and 27" iMac as monitor - 2560x1440) with all the bells and whistles. I would like it to be as quiet as possible to, hence the ridiculous heat sink and fan for the cpu.

    I will primarily be getting my games from Steam so have opted not to bother with an optical drive. I have also put 16GB RAM in it simply because I don't want to have to upgrade any time soon (and the price difference wasn't that great). I have picked the Deluxe motherboard because I want to have dual band wifi support.

    Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Case
    Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE Z77 Socket 1155 8 Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard
    Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache OEM Processor
    Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator and Fan Socket
    Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x 8GB) 1600MHz DDR3 Memory
    Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 DirectCU II Top Graphics Card
    Samsung 256GB 840 Pro SSD
    WD 1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6Gb/s Caviar Black Hard Drive
    Corsair Professional Series AX750 750W Modular PSU

    I have keyboard, mouse, xbox controller + wireless dongle, speakers etc. I also have an MSDN subscription so will probably go with Windows 8 Pro. I may be in the market for a new keyboard and mouse (that works on an icemat) at some point if someone can recommend any good ones.

    Thanks for taking the time to look and for any help you can offer.

    Cheers
  • GreasyWeasel 29 Jan 2013 14:07:25 463 posts
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    Yay! Cheers @Rodpad :)
  • FutileResistor 29 Jan 2013 16:00:48 1,239 posts
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    @GreasyWeasel

    You've obviously done your homework, great build. Only thing I'll add is that you always run out of storage space. It's well worth the extra 20 for a 2TB HDD.
  • nickthegun 29 Jan 2013 16:04:45 61,348 posts
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    Ive got a fairly strict budget of 500 sheets to put something together and after:

    Sapphire HD 7850 OC Edition 2GB
    Asus P8Z77-V LX
    Intel Core i5 3470 3.20GHz
    Seagate 1TB Barracuda 3.5"
    Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz Ballistix Tactical Memory Kit

    Ive got a grand total of 40 quid to spend on a case and PSU. Any recommendations other than 'spend more money'?

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  • FutileResistor 29 Jan 2013 16:16:37 1,239 posts
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    Spend more money.

    Also Dabs have the following discount codes for Jan.

    JAN10 - 10 off on orders over 199.
    JAN25 - 25 off on orders over 399.
    JAN40 - 40 off on orders over 599.

    You might be able to finesse something from that and get within budget.
  • nickthegun 29 Jan 2013 16:37:28 61,348 posts
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    Im looking at this

    http://www.ebuyer.com/220863-coolermaster-elite-330-case-with-coolermaster-extreme-power-500w-psu-rc-330-kkpl-gp

    Which wipes out my express delivery tenner! 5 working days like a peasant..

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    He's not a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am, he's a thriller

  • nickthegun 29 Jan 2013 16:37:38 61,348 posts
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    cheers for the codes, btw.

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  • FutileResistor 29 Jan 2013 18:43:26 1,239 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Im looking at this

    http://www.ebuyer.com/220863-coolermaster-elite-330-case-with-coolermaster-extreme-power-500w-psu-rc-330-kkpl-gp

    Which wipes out my express delivery tenner! 5 working days like a peasant..
    I'm a PSU snob and I question the provenance of the PSU in that case (I know nothing about that PSU but questioning its provenance is certainly something a PSU snob would do).

    I would get a Corsair CX430 33.55

    And a XIGMATEK Asgard Pro Chassis 29.72. All black interior and USB3 (only one :-(, but still one more than your Elite 330)on the front panel.

    Which makes 63.27, eight quid more but much better than the Cooler Master option.

    Edited by FutileResistor at 18:44:59 29-01-2013
  • nickthegun 29 Jan 2013 20:41:46 61,348 posts
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    VTX3D AMD Radeon 7850 HD 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI X-Edition
    1TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM Hard Drive
    8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP
    Asgard Pro Chassis
    430 Watt CX430 V2 Builder Series 80 Plus Power Supply
    P8Z77-V LX S1155 Intel Z77 DDR3 ATX
    Core i5-3470 S1155 3.2GHz 6MB

    Grand total: 502.38 (after the 25 voucher code)

    You cant fight that, nice one!

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  • Carlo 29 Jan 2013 20:56:07 18,227 posts
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    Anyone got any experience with getting the smallest form factor but have a GTX 680 gpu? I want to shrink it down as small as possible.

    I'll need to buy a new mobo obviously, and new case, psu & cpu heat sink because they're all atx sized. I have a 2500k cpu.

    Might try this

    Http://vivithemage.com/2012/10/silverstone-tek-sg05-evga-gtx-680-asus-p8z77-i-deluxe-noctua-nh-l12-the-itx-mini-beast/

    Edited by Carlo at 21:53:28 29-01-2013

    PSN ID: Djini

  • GreasyWeasel 30 Jan 2013 04:22:44 463 posts
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    Cheers @FutileResistor
    All parts bar the GPU have been ordered and should turn up later today. Damn I'm excited, it's been so long since I've PC gamed. My brief sessions of Civ V on my mac don't count. Roll on Sim City ;)
  • GreasyWeasel 30 Jan 2013 10:45:13 463 posts
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    Can anyone point me in the right direction for a good gaming keyboard and mouse? I've tried looking but there is a lot of conflicting reports. I basically want a good keyboard (I'm not bothered about flashing lights etc) and I would like a good (wireless if possible) mouse that will work on an Icemat.

    Anyone's experience or advice is welcome.

    Cheers
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