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  • kalel 19 Nov 2012 10:30:17 83,875 posts
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    I never really liked Smallville, but I sort of get why people did. It had a bit of soul at least.

    This is pure "by numbers" stuff. It's the kind of thing where you wonder if it's actually a parody.
  • nickthegun 19 Nov 2012 10:33:38 55,849 posts
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    Tonally, its just all over the place. It flits wildly between heartbreak and idiocy because it wants to be a teen show but its also desperate to be a bit dark because it wants to be batman with arrows.

    The funny thing is that the new hawkeye comic is really good and very TV like. It would make a far better show than this shite.

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  • Mola_Ram 19 Nov 2012 10:36:15 6,229 posts
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    I liked Smallville in a "I know this is really fucking stupid, but I kind of like it anyway" sort of way. It was fun.

    This was equally stupid, but had a sort of seriousness that really jarred with the stupidity.
  • kalel 19 Nov 2012 10:48:20 83,875 posts
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    Also at the core of Smallville is a powerful dramatic irony - we know he becomes Superman - and Superman is a character with all kinds of positive associations and nostalgia and warmth and all that. It goes a long way. And even at its worst, Smallville knew how to toy with that, and used it quite well.

    Whereas even the biggest Green Arrow fan (of which I don't think many exist) isn't going to get much of a kick from this.
  • nickthegun 19 Nov 2012 10:53:15 55,849 posts
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    I hope that, like at the end of smallville clark finally shows the costume, at the end of arrow he grows the gay beard and dons the robin hood hat.

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  • El_MUERkO 19 Nov 2012 10:59:58 16,833 posts
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    I like it, though the last episode seemed incredibly rushed, plowing through a tonne of story all at once. It definitely wants to be Arrowman.
  • Deleted user 19 November 2012 20:59:03
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    So this is total wank. Scenes are wholesale ripped off the Nolan Batman films which is a) embarrassing a b) forcing you to compare the two, which is not a comparison it comes out of favourably.

    Bad acting, bad writing, bad action. Wank wank wank. It's fucking awful and guaranteed to get cancelled.
    Just seen it, completely agree. I can see what they might have been trying to do but it's just not done well enough to pull it off. There's enough of a glimmer to see that it could have been decent but it's so far off executing it well.
  • Zomoniac 11 Dec 2012 10:52:33 7,402 posts
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    It really isn't very good. Which leads me to question why I'm still continuing to watch it without fail.
  • sport 11 Dec 2012 11:03:44 12,045 posts
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    Zomoniac wrote:
    It really isn't very good. Which leads me to question why I'm still continuing to watch it without fail.
    You just want to see naked pull-ups again, don't you?
  • glo 11 Dec 2012 11:36:26 3,415 posts
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    It is definitely a guilty pleasure only to be watched with your brain firmly in the OFF position.

    Still watching it every week though. Don't really know why.
  • El_MUERkO 11 Dec 2012 12:09:27 16,833 posts
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    It's awesomebad
  • crashVoodoo 12 Dec 2012 00:06:17 3,821 posts
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    El_MUERkO wrote:
    It's awesomebad
    Emphasis on bad. Workmate wouldn't shut up about how excited he was this was coming out.

    I watched the first ep and couldnt believe how shit it was.  its just bland and full of pretty people trying to look pretty or moody.

    Havent been back and the comments in here confirm my choice was the right one.

    a Nexus a day keeps the apple away

  • President_Weasel 12 Dec 2012 12:41:43 8,604 posts
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    Zomoniac wrote:
    It really isn't very good. Which leads me to question why I'm still continuing to watch it without fail.
    Yeah, it's terrible but very watchable. It's regular viewing for me now, for no apparent reason: the acting isn't very good, the plots don't hang together, the tone veers wildly, John Barrowman (John Barrowman, for crying out loud) is one of the baddies and is supposed to be sinister.
    It shouldn't work, yet I'm finding it all rather enjoyable.

    It does have that one guy from other stuff as Diggle, he's pretty decent and deserved a supporting role, and it's got the guy who played Harry Dresden in the Dresden Files show that got quickly cancelled (he was decent, the show was a bit pants) so it's nice to see him getting work.
  • PatrickEwing 12 Jun 2013 22:21:55 2,088 posts
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    I just finished the first series and all things considered I enjoyed it! Sure it's got it's pitfalls with some loose ties holding some parts of the story together and some rather questionable acting but essentially I found it entertaining. I'm glad I stuck with it and look forward to the next series.
    /is aware of my low standards

    Edited by PatrickEwing at 22:22:08 12-06-2013
  • Megapocalypse 12 Jun 2013 22:32:21 5,228 posts
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    Fully agree with that. Despite its flaws, it was fun.
  • KingOfSpain 12 Jun 2013 22:42:01 5,182 posts
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    Just watched the final episode tonight and I agree. It's properly shit. Bad acting, bad scripts, bad almost everything. HOWEVER, me and the wife kind of enjoyed it. It was silly fun.

    Barrowman started off really hamming it up, but I thought he almost grew into the role towards the end. I'm not saying he was good, he wasn't, but at least I wasn't expecting him to jump into every scene with JAZZ HANDS!

    The very worst part of the show was the apearence of River Song (or whatever her name is). She really was shocking. Kind of acting I'd expect on a bad 80s daytime drama. Pissed myself every time she appeared.

    Like I said though, I mostly enjoyed it. Was nice to have something comic booky that me and the misses could both get into.
  • El_MUERkO 12 Jun 2013 22:42:03 16,833 posts
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    I really liked it in the end and I'm looking forward to next season :)
  • President_Weasel 12 Jun 2013 23:19:16 8,604 posts
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    I agree with the last four posts, and disagree with that "President Weasel" guy. Barrowman did indeed grow into the role, and it was usually a decent hour of pleasantly stupid telly.

    Also Crixus was in it, what's not to like?
  • Dougs 9 Jan 2014 09:07:36 64,902 posts
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    Just started this, huge amount of fun. It's pap, and may as well be The OC with superheroes, but it's better than Agents of SHIELD. How's S2 shaping up?
  • CosmicFuzz 9 Jan 2014 09:12:12 21,240 posts
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    Yeah I blitzed the first season a while back on Netflix. Have to say I wound up really enjoying it! Season 2 is meant to be really good from what I've read, although not seen it yet.

    What's your thoughts on Heroes Reborn? Read my TV musings here.

  • magicpanda 9 Jan 2014 09:23:03 13,007 posts
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    Season 2 is just as good so far. Barry Allen has made an appearance and Manu Bennet aks Crixus is still around so it's all good.

    Felicity Smoaking Hot amirite.
  • Fab4 9 Jan 2014 10:14:10 5,691 posts
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    Started watching this on Dutch Netflix. Thoroughly enjoying it too.
  • glaeken 9 Jan 2014 10:15:19 10,976 posts
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    I liked S2 so far though I don't like the fact he has decided to stop killing people. I kind of liked that about the first series. It's always seemed like a silly limitation that some super heros go to such lengths not to kill anyone.

    Apart from that though it's been enjoyable fluff just like S1
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