Doom 3 BFG Edition

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  • ubergine 5 Aug 2012 16:49:53 1,216 posts
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    Did a search and couldn't find a thread for this. I have a feeling Idthesda may be holding off on Doom 4 news because they want to gauge contemporary levels of interest in the IP after the lackluster Rage.

    Which probably means, the more people buy Doom 3.5, the better Id's budget for Doom 4 will be.

    I was so anxious during Doom 3 on Xbox I could only play a short section at a time. Ironically, when the game moved to the Hell levels it ceased to be scary. I'll definitely play it again in high def though!

    It will be as if I had a PC!

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  • spamdangled 5 Aug 2012 16:51:45 27,197 posts
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    Wouldn't it be a bit daft to have greenlit development on Doom 4 if they weren't sure whether or not they were going to release it?

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  • ubergine 5 Aug 2012 18:37:54 1,216 posts
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    Games get cancelled all the time, but that's not what I meant. The development of Rage and now Doom 4 seems a bit troubled, and Rage didn't perform at the cah register. Given the reviews described Rage as a throwback to Id shooters of yesteryear (which the world has moved on from) Id's new overlords might be looking at ways to shape Doom 4 differently because they are scared to invest more money in another flop. I think there were rumours reported of Doom 4 being cancelled a while back after Rage flopped, but I think what more likely happened is Zenimax or Bethesda (whatever) halted production to take a good hard look at it from a modern marketability point of view.

    So maybe we can look forward to Call Of Doom. But they'd surely take further thoughts on Doom 4's direction from sales and reaction to Doom 3 HD.

    Edited by ubergine at 18:55:47 05-08-2012

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  • spamdangled 5 Aug 2012 19:20:50 27,197 posts
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    Where's the evidence of a troubled development?

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  • lavalant 5 Aug 2012 19:31:56 1,249 posts
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    The original Doom 3 on the Xbox had online co-op for the full campaign, this version has been reported to have a co-op mode but not confirmed it's for the full campaign. My advice is to just buy 2 copies of Doom 3 for the Xbox at a cost of under 5 for both and play system link on the xbox 360.

    As for enhanced graphics, they maybe enhanced compared to the original Xbox version but not compared to the PC version.
  • graysonavich 5 Aug 2012 19:36:53 6,802 posts
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    darkmorgado wrote:
    Where's the evidence of a troubled development?
    The last decade of id software.
  • nickthegun 5 Aug 2012 19:38:41 55,848 posts
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    I doubt they are waiting to see how a re-release of a mediocre, luke-warmly received game does before committing to doom 4.

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  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 5 Aug 2012 19:42:34 6,654 posts
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    I hope the PC version supports pads
  • silentbob 5 Aug 2012 19:56:35 28,917 posts
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    I get it for free with my Oculus Rift. Without the addition of VR though, why would I revisit this somewhat less than stellar game?

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  • Deleted user 5 August 2012 20:24:28
    what's the deal with Doom 3 on steam being cheap? Free upgrade for the DLC?
  • ubergine 6 Aug 2012 03:42:05 1,216 posts
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    @darkmorgado Try google? Here's a recent one from earlier this year:

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-21-bethesda-suspends-doom-4-rumour

    And doom 3 didn't do as well as half life 2, but was it "lukewarmky recieved" or did some people just not like it's changes? I thought it was unreal at the time but lacked reason for multiple playthroughs.

    On the other hand, I lukewarmly reciece the entire Call Of Duty series... and by that I mean I bluntly refuse it.

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  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 15 Oct 2012 14:56:49 6,654 posts
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    Has this been put back does anybody know?

    Metacritic has it being released in 9 hours
  • monty2k 15 Oct 2012 15:24:36 240 posts
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    @bitch_tits_zero_nine

    That counter refers to the US release doesn't it? I think we're still due to get Doom 3 on Friday.
  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 15 Oct 2012 15:25:43 6,654 posts
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    Hope so, I quite like it tbh.
  • monty2k 15 Oct 2012 15:42:56 240 posts
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    If anyone is interested there are some videos of the 360 version on youtube here and it looks exactly like the PC version. The only difference seems to be that they've added an autosave system and a shoulder lamp that annoyingly causes no shadows to be cast by enemies... Ugh.

    I still really want to buy this though but as I already own the PC and Xbox 1 versions it'll be hard to justify the cost. I'll just have to try and stay strong and either rent it or pick it up in the inevitable Christmas/New Year sales.

    Edited by monty2k at 15:46:38 15-10-2012
  • GeezaTap 15 Oct 2012 16:04:20 289 posts
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    Well you get the first two Doom games as well if that twists your arm.

    If it gets a PSN release I'll probably pick it up.

    I'll probs pick it up anyways as

    DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOM, I WANNA GO DOOM DOOM, LET'S SPENT THE NIGHT TOGETHER, TOGETHER IN MY DOOM

    Edited by GeezaTap at 16:05:25 15-10-2012
  • Flying_Pig 15 Oct 2012 16:12:53 10,275 posts
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    Never got into D3, but would love to play Doom 1 and D2 on my PS3. Anyone know if they're exactly as released on PC in the '90's, or have they received the HD treatment?

    Edit: Looked at the Trophy list for this. Unless they allow the cheats, there's no way I'll be getting the Platinum Trophy :)

    Edited by Flying_Pig at 16:14:13 15-10-2012
  • monty2k 15 Oct 2012 16:21:05 240 posts
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    @GeezaTap:

    That would twist my arm if I didn't already have the originals on the PC (floppy disk and win95), the GBA versions, the Xbox 1 version and the 360 arcade versions :p

    On the other hand, it would be awesome to have all those games in just one place.... Dammit I am such a whore for Doom! Oh crap, I think I'm just going to have to buy it on Friday.



    @Flying_Pig:

    I imagine they'll be like the 360 arcade versions with full HD, 5.1 surround sound, online multiplayer and trophy/achievement support.

    Edited by monty2k at 16:22:31 15-10-2012
  • nickthegun 15 Oct 2012 16:45:24 55,848 posts
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    I played this at the expo and it was terrible. With 3D on the low res textures looked appalling and it made me feel sick. I cant imagine how vomit inducing it will be when played with the Jesus goggles.

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  • Trafford 15 Oct 2012 16:49:40 5,269 posts
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    New chapter added also, but co-op removed iirc.
    I'll probably pick this up for a blast, enjoyed it on pc, will be nice to chip away at it on a big screen.
    I don't really go for fps nowadays, but I like Doom.
  • jabberwoky 15 Oct 2012 18:47:05 441 posts
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    Never got D3 because of all the whining about the flashlight, but I think its time to give it a go, its been fixed apparently.
  • Rodney 15 Oct 2012 20:16:09 1,681 posts
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    The flashlight added tension but it's a good idea that it is optional now for those who didn't like it
  • superdelphinus 15 Oct 2012 20:21:15 7,265 posts
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    the bit where doom 3 went mental scared the shit out of me the first time around
  • Jabjabs 16 Oct 2012 09:01:17 14 posts
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    D3 was awesome for the first 3 days it was out, I blazed through it surprisingly quickly and while it had some great atmosphere it really was lacking in gameplay design. It basically ended up as just things jumping out from random places every 5 seconds rather than having any real suspense.

    I fear it will not have aged well.
  • -cerberus- 16 Oct 2012 21:29:14 2,081 posts
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    Anybody got their BFG Edition already? Would like to hear any first impressions, please?

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  • spamdangled 16 Oct 2012 21:31:33 27,197 posts
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    Damn, I thought I had taken this off my preorder list after the disaster I played at the expo.

    Just been charged by Shopto :-(

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  • -cerberus- 16 Oct 2012 22:12:59 2,081 posts
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    @darkmorgado Disaster? Please elaborate?

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  • spamdangled 16 Oct 2012 22:18:23 27,197 posts
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    -cerberus- wrote:
    @darkmorgado Disaster? Please elaborate?
    The textures haven't been updated at all. This is exactly the same game you played all those years ago, and time really hasn't been kind to idTech4.

    The guns lack any sense of weight and the audio feels weak. When I fire a shotgun, I want a deep, loud boom and a good feeling of recoil. Feels like you're shooting popguns in this, little feedback to firing supposedly heavy weaponry.

    The level design is as bad now as it was back then - corridor-dark-JUMP MOMENT-corridor-dark-JUMP MOMENT.

    The 3D effect is horrible. The blurred textures, and the fact that the game was never designed for 3D, mean that it just doesn't convince. There's a sense of depth, but it doesn't feel right. You don't feel drawn into it. It ends up being more jarring than immersive, the complete opposite of what you surely hope to achieve.

    Long story short - Doom 3 felt very old-fashioned and out of date when it was released. These days, it feels positively archaic and the weak attempts to bring it up to date to justify this re-release simply don't convince in the slightest.

    Edited by darkmorgado at 22:40:54 16-10-2012

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  • richardiox 16 Oct 2012 22:31:42 5,417 posts
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    This was always going to be an HD version of Doom3 for consoles though, right? I wasn't expecting a remake.

    The real shame its a 25 retail release, think they should have put it up as a downloadable game for a tenner.

    That said, it will be a tenner online within a couple of months and there are people who like that genre of FPS's.
  • -cerberus- 16 Oct 2012 22:34:25 2,081 posts
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    @darkmorgado Oh ok, I understand your frustration. Have they updated the controls to make them feel more "modern"? How is the checkpoint system: cheap, unfair or just right? The game does run at 60fps, right?
    EDIT: Which version did you play; PC, 360 or ps3?

    Edited by -cerberus- at 22:36:24 16-10-2012

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