http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/07/03/crikey-eu-rules-you-can-resell-downloaded-games/
Interesting news.
Interesting news.
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EU rules that downloadable games to be resellable
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Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Tonka 18,124 posts
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Registered 9 years agoGods. any bets that this is the end of DL games in the EU?If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.
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mrpon 23,980 posts
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OLD!!
Sill, much better title, this should keep the tight arses happy whilst putting up the price of new games if anything comes of this.
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Yeah, PC gamers will start buying games in draconian ways again 0_o
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Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoTonka wrote:
No. Don't be so fucking stu... Oh, it's Tonka.
Gods. any bets that this is the end of DL games in the EU?+1 / Like / Tweet this post
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Tonka 18,124 posts
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Registered 9 years ago@Dirtbox So you think they'll happily rebuild XBox LIVE, STEAM etc to enable a second hand market?If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.
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Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoNo, I don't think it'll have any impact whatsoever, it's a stupid piece of legislation that is likely to be overturned when someone points out how far reaching the implications are.
But also, do you really think Valve, the single most profitable software company on the planet is just going to go out of business because of this? Really?
Edited by Dirtbox at 10:18:34 04-07-2012+1 / Like / Tweet this post
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Tonka 18,124 posts
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Registered 9 years agoIf that was what I had thought I would have said so.If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.
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Tonka 18,124 posts
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Registered 9 years ago@Dirtbox Since you're such a smart ass, why don't you tell me what "far reaching implications" there might be?If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.
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Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoAll downloadable assets should be resellable? Well that's iTunes out of business then. The Google Web Store, MS Marketplace. All share and domain ware. Amazon ebooks, all online music stores, Etc.
Every single thing you can pay for and download.
You don't have to be a smartarse to realise this, you just need a speck of sense.
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Anyone wanna buy some Horse Armour for 50p?
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Tonka 18,124 posts
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Registered 9 years ago@Dirtbox Do you really think Apple, the single most profitable hardware/software company on the planet is just going to go out of business because of this? Really?If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.
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senso-ji 4,524 posts
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Registered 5 years agoI think the most interesting piece of information that came out of this ruling is that the EU has decreed EULA's don't mean shit. -
Sharzam 1,329 posts
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Registered 4 years agoAs with every eu thing, nothing will happen till someone challenges it and more importantly finds a way to make money.
In this case it would take someone like valve to bring in second hand sales then say ubisoft take valve to court for enabling second hand.As this is not in valves interest, bugger all will start in the first place.Known as 'Sharzam' in 98.5% of games
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senso-ji wrote:
We've known that for decades.
I think the most interesting piece of information that came out of this ruling is that the EU has decreed EULA's don't mean shit. -
Stickman 28,477 posts
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Tonka 18,124 posts
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Registered 9 years agoDo we have class action lawsuits in EU?
I'm starting a protest group demanding that every DL seller provide the infrastructure for me to resell their wares in any way I see fit. e-bay, the pub or a car booth sale.
How hard can it be? <-- IronyIf you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.
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Lexx87 20,826 posts
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Registered 7 years agoTonka wrote:
Note he said 'iTunes' not 'Apple'
@Dirtbox Do you really think Apple, the single most profitable hardware/software company on the planet is just going to go out of business because of this? Really?Speak the truth hussy!
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Aargh. 11,127 posts
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Registered 2 years agoThe specific rule seems to be that if a license is sold indefinitely – i.e. not a license for a year, or similar – that the rightholder “exhausts his exclusive distribution right”.
So if every game is sold with a timed license then the issue goes away?
“Such a transaction involves a transfer of the right of ownership of the copy.”After chasing sunsets one of life's simple joy is playing with the boys
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mcmonkeyplc 35,770 posts
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Registered 10 years agoMASSIVE SIMPLETON STATEMENT WARNING.
The issue is about ownership. If you buy something you own it and should be able to do what you want with it without harming the original creator (IP).
The problem is when the re-sale of the product effects the profitabilty of the original creator. However they can get round this with things like the online pass?
Told you it was a simpleton statement.Come and get it cumslingers!
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Certainly is.
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Aargh. 11,127 posts
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Registered 2 years agoMake all games require an online connection and then you're licensing access to that/charging for that service and not the game software.After chasing sunsets one of life's simple joy is playing with the boys
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mcmonkeyplc 35,770 posts
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Registered 10 years agoCrispyXUK wrote:
That is one tasty user picture you have there Crispy.
Certainly is.Come and get it cumslingers!
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Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoTonka wrote:
Apple? Read. You said:
@Dirtbox Do you really think Apple, the single most profitable hardware/software company on the planet is just going to go out of business because of this? Really?
Tonka wrote:
So you can answer your own question, can't you? Well, probably not but you can at least try.
@Dirtbox So you think they'll happily rebuild XBox LIVE, STEAM etc to enable a second hand market?
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Dirtbox 73,638 posts
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Registered 11 years agoAargh. wrote:
Turning games into an ongoing paid for service is akin to making everything an MMO. And that doesn't touch things like ebooks, movies, TV shows and music unless they're cloud served.
Make all games require an online connection and then you're licensing access to that/charging for that service and not the game software.+1 / Like / Tweet this post
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It's how I real 'em inCrispyXUK wrote:
That is one tasty user picture you have there Crispy.
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kosigan 392 posts
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Registered 4 years ago@mcmonkeyplc -If you buy something you own it
That's not true in the case of, for example, software, music and films. What you buy is a licence to access the content - you do not own the content. The disc that you receive when you pay for a physical copy is merely the delivery mechanism to enable to you access that content. This is why the publishers want a download-only future: it cuts out the cost of the manufacture and distribution of the physical media and, until this ruling, there was no resale value to a digital copy. We'll have to wait and see how it pans out in reality when it comes to someone trying to use this ruling to do so. -
It's that EULA that this legislation overrules in it's entirety.
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