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  • Mugwum Operations Director, Gamer Network 18 Jan 2012 15:06:13 588 posts
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    I think piracy of any kind is a wretched blight on creative people, but I don't believe SOPA/PIPA are good ways of dealing with it for all the reasons everyone's listing and as detailed in the story Bertie wrote the other day.

    We support anyone protesting against SOPA and PIPA although we decided not to black out the site.
  • Dirtbox 18 Jan 2012 15:07:46 73,664 posts
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    zm26 wrote:
    Wouldn't the enforcement of such legislation and it's effects on business end up far exceeding any losses from piracy?
    Hence the blackout.

    Also it wouldn't stop piracy, it would just hold anyone responsible for using material copyrighted by one of the supporting corporations. Don't forget that those same corporations are the ones responsible for the proliferation of the software use for piracy.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 15:08:25 18-01-2012

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  • Lexx87 18 Jan 2012 15:08:26 20,833 posts
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    Mugwum wrote:
    We support anyone protesting against SOPA and PIPA so we at Eurogamer have decided to 'black up' for the day.
    o_0

    Speak the truth hussy!

  • Dirtbox 18 Jan 2012 15:10:11 73,664 posts
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    Mugwum wrote:
    I think piracy of any kind is a wretched blight on creative people, but I don't believe SOPA/PIPA are good ways of dealing with it for all the reasons everyone's listing and as detailed in the story Bertie wrote the other day.

    We support anyone protesting against SOPA and PIPA although we decided not to black out the site.
    I strongly believe that in this case you should advertise Eurogamer's beliefs publicly rather than allowing them to be shuttered away.

    I'm not suggesting a blackout, but the fact the story is nowhere to be seen is pretty bad.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 15:11:22 18-01-2012

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  • nickthegun 18 Jan 2012 15:11:49 44,409 posts
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    Lexx87 wrote:
    Mugwum wrote:
    We support anyone protesting against SOPA and PIPA so we at Eurogamer have decided to 'black up' for the day.
    o_0
    Not as bad as it sounds. They did it for national chimney sweep day.

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  • Popzeus 18 Jan 2012 15:12:43 7,888 posts
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    I'd agree (EDIT: with DB that you should have something pinned to the front page explaining your stance), it's something a big section of your community here feels very strongly about.

    Kudos for coming into the thread to respond, though.

    Edited by Popzeus at 15:13:20 18-01-2012

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  • Dirtbox 18 Jan 2012 15:13:38 73,664 posts
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    Stop peasenting my srs thread up.

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  • disusedgenius 18 Jan 2012 15:14:26 4,819 posts
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    I guess that's the problem with this democratic filtering type thing they have going out there on the front page.
  • ecureuil 18 Jan 2012 15:16:31 74,136 posts
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    I want to know what the fuck google is playing at. They'll change their logo for the birthday of some random cunt nobody has heard of, yet something that threatens the Internet as we know it only gets a small link that most people probably won't notice. Poor showing from the web's most powerful player.
  • Deleted user 18 January 2012 15:16:42
    disusedgenius wrote:
    I guess that's the problem with this democratic filtering type thing they have going out there on the front page.
    Says more about the readers than Eurogamer.
  • Dirtbox 18 Jan 2012 15:17:43 73,664 posts
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    Shouldn't stop them from being able to force an important story to the top. Although that's probably not a feature that craigy has gotten around to sorting yet.

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  • nickthegun 18 Jan 2012 15:18:01 44,409 posts
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    They have blacked out (redacted, whatever) the google logo for all American visitors.

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  • Syrette 18 Jan 2012 15:19:33 38,340 posts
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    MetalDog wrote:
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    Protests are still going ahead even though the bill is practically dead? Must have really hit a nerve.
    They hit the 'get the fuck off our internets' nerve.
    Give these cunts an inch and they'll take a mile - the only way to deal with them is to kick them repeatedly in the testes until they learn.
    Remind me never to get on Metaldog's bad side.

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  • Popzeus 18 Jan 2012 15:19:44 7,888 posts
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    Sort of misses the point that it's not just Americans going to be screwed over by it, though.

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  • Whizzo 18 Jan 2012 15:19:59 41,127 posts
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    What users in the US see on google.com

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  • Mugwum Operations Director, Gamer Network 18 Jan 2012 15:27:01 588 posts
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    @Dirtbox Our coverage of SOPA hasn't been that great, to be honest. There are a few reasons for that (staff absences at the start of the year in several cases) but I feel like we did a poor job initially. We'll try to catch ourselves up and make more noise about it from now on.
  • nickthegun 18 Jan 2012 15:29:51 44,409 posts
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    Cant get better than that.

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  • Dirtbox 18 Jan 2012 15:29:56 73,664 posts
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    Thanks.

    So when you say now, do you mean right now? Because the clocks ticking on this one and if there's a day to start being more forthright about your stance, today is it.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 15:30:14 18-01-2012

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  • nickthegun 18 Jan 2012 15:31:22 44,409 posts
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    Theres no pleasing some people

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  • Dirtbox 18 Jan 2012 15:32:04 73,664 posts
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    Hey, it's a pretty big deal and EG has a huge readership and wide reaching influence.

    Edited by Dirtbox at 15:32:36 18-01-2012

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  • nickthegun 18 Jan 2012 15:34:57 44,409 posts
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    I know, im only joking.

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  • Deleted user 18 January 2012 15:36:02
    nickthegun wrote:
    Theres no pleasing some people
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXit0FTxa1U&feature=player_detailpage#t=97s
  • Popzeus 18 Jan 2012 15:36:22 7,888 posts
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    I'm

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  • Lexx87 18 Jan 2012 15:36:57 20,833 posts
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    black?

    Speak the truth hussy!

  • Razz 18 Jan 2012 15:39:37 57,905 posts
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    \o/

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  • Flightrisker 18 Jan 2012 15:40:20 18,073 posts
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    One of the things all this debate as shown me is that I genuinely have no idea anymore what constitutes copyright infringement. If I post a photo now that is owned by someone else, which kinda means any I didn't take or get from a free stock photo site, is that infringing copyright?

    I get that something needs to be done. I get that sites blatantly housing terrabytes of illegally sources films is not good. But this act is so open to interpretation that in this example EG would have to manually ok every post (or just block us posting images like the good ol days ;) ) just to be sure that they are not, via their users, breaking copyright. It's ludicrous.
  • Dirtbox 18 Jan 2012 15:42:13 73,664 posts
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    They won't do anything unless they've got lawyers on tap to throw at you, which the people supporting these bills do. In abundance. So in effect it's not protecting anyone but them and this whole thing is a massive abuse of power from the off.

    It's literally what happens when you let lawyers rule the world.

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  • nickthegun 18 Jan 2012 15:42:37 44,409 posts
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    Popzeus wrote:
    I'm
    Its now well established that apostrophes are for fags

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  • nickthegun 18 Jan 2012 15:44:06 44,409 posts
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    Personally, I love the idea of venatio having to vet every image and video posted to the site. That'll learn im for allowing sigs.

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  • localnotail 18 Jan 2012 15:44:45 21,443 posts
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    Wrong thread, sorry

    Edited by localnotail at 15:45:38 18-01-2012

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