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  • Bremenacht 21 Oct 2013 00:21:25 18,286 posts
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    Razz wrote:
    I really wish I watched that before I posted anything in this thread. I don't want to be associated with cunt, I'm sorry for what I said.
    Oh man! No worries at all.
  • DrStrangelove 21 Oct 2013 00:26:13 4,005 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
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    Razz wrote:
    Don't you ever find it a little strange that whole world went from hating Japan to almost worshipping them in the space of 30/40 years? It's like if Saudi Arabia stopping killing rape victims and starting making weird cartoons, video games and porn.
    Look at how the British/English are admired for their good humour, fair play etc, yet their history isn't much cleaner than that of the Japanese. Are there any advanced civilisations without blood on their hands? Probably the Americans, given how new they are.
    Erm, after WW2, and except for Mao's China, I struggle to think of anyone who has as much blood on their hands as the USA. The Soviet Union wasn't too restrained either, but the USA have been fucking cunts since 1945.

    edit: and before, as pointed out, in regard to natives and Mexicans.
    Fucking cunts, sure. How many people have they intentionally killed though? Anything on the scale of the English, the Japanese or the Germans? Or the French. Or the Belgiums. Or the Spanish. Or any colonising civilisation you care to mention.
    That's why I said after WW2. But their history of replacing democratically elected governments with brutal dictatorships is bad enough, and then there's their direct "engagement" in conflicts. In terms of kilotons of TNT, they dropped more bombs on Cambodia alone than what was dropped on Germany and Japan together in WW2. Mind you, Cambodia, a tiny uninvolved country where some Vietkong hid in the jungles. A then devastated country that soon after fell victim to the rise of ultra-Maoists who slaughtered some 1-2 million of their own people.

    And that's only one of the places of US-American devastation. There was Korea, Vietnam, and others.
  • Bremenacht 21 Oct 2013 00:46:14 18,286 posts
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    I'm not pretending the US were the good guys, but you're rather underplaying the involvement of the Soviets and the Chinese in those conflicts. And you're rather ignoring Soviet behaviour when it comes to replacing elected governments. What other nation could have taken the role that the Americans took, in opposing Soviet ambition?
  • DrStrangelove 21 Oct 2013 00:57:21 4,005 posts
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    Again, I don't want to downplay Soviet and especially Chinese atrocities. But what I reproach the USA for is that they claimed to be better, to defend freedom and democracy, but in fact were no better. In direct conflict, they almost annihilated third-world countries, in indirect conflict, they overturned countless democratically elected governments and replaced them with brutal dictatorships.

    They claimed to fight against the old nazis, but they soon found them useful in West Germany and beyond. No matter if someone's a nazi or a military dictator, as long as he's anti-communist, he's one of our guys. And at least from how I understood it, the USA militarily provoked the Soviet Union more often than vice versa.

    The Soviet Union was bad enough, but imo the USA were at least the same, if not worse.

    Edit: yes, the Soviets were bad with their involvement in overturning/conquering smaller countries, as was China. But the USA always claimed they were better, but they weren't. And that casts a different light on "opposing soviet ambitions", if you ask me. What is that worth if "the good guys" aren't any better than the bad guys?

    Edit 2: A nice example is Iran. USA and UK helped overthrow Moussadeq and installed a repressive Shah regime. After that was overthrown by Islamists, they supported Saddam Hussein in a war of aggression against Iran that left between 500,000 and one million dead. So in what way, at least in foreign "policy", are we better than the Soviets?

    Edited by DrStrangelove at 01:16:43 21-10-2013
  • DrStrangelove 21 Oct 2013 01:23:37 4,005 posts
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    arials101 wrote:

    I would have thought somewhere like New Zealand would be relatively guilt free. The Maori have fared better than Native Americans except for a bit of war, post contact illnesses and land grabbing a few hundred years ago.
    I have no idea about the Maori, but it can't get much worse than what happened to the North American natives. That's including what happened to Meso- and South-Americans. At least it seems like there were more natives left in South and Meso-America than in North America, where they're almost extinct.

    Edited by DrStrangelove at 01:26:56 21-10-2013
  • Mola_Ram 21 Oct 2013 01:29:20 7,404 posts
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    So, how about that tram lady. Pretty racist huh.
  • Bremenacht 21 Oct 2013 01:34:43 18,286 posts
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    How about we continue in The History Thread and return this thread to discussion of Racist Tube Cunt.
  • Bremenacht 21 Oct 2013 01:34:55 18,286 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    So, how about that tram lady. Pretty racist huh.
    \o/
  • twelveways 21 Oct 2013 05:54:00 4,023 posts
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    The Americans killed around a million Filippinos (mostly civilians) in the Philippine insurrection, waaaay before WW2.
  • Rodney 21 Oct 2013 06:13:49 1,900 posts
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    Goodfella wrote:
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    Do we even know she actually was Japanese? Its not like she was dressed as a school girl or wearing a komodo.
    I don't think they ever wore large lizards as clothing. I think you mean Kimono. :p

    haha. I had a feeling it wasn't right when it popped up on autocorrect
  • RedSparrows 21 Oct 2013 08:48:59 22,749 posts
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    I overheard a guy having a 'minor' go at a Chinese lady in the National Picture Gallery. It was weird. I entered a corridor and heard something down the end, and went towards it, and then I saw a guy walking off in the opposite direction, and the Chinese lady, who was a gallery attendant of some kind, was sitting down, and then ambled off.

    He was saying something about debts and how visas were being scrapped and things. It wasn't racist from what I heard, but certainly felt like it had that tinge of 'oh, you're from ****. Therefore I'm going to rant about **** to you with my vague and angry understanding of things I read about 3 weeks ago somewhere or something.'
  • jimbogreen 21 Oct 2013 21:32:59 88 posts
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    DrStrangelove wrote:
    arials101 wrote:

    I would have thought somewhere like New Zealand would be relatively guilt free. The Maori have fared better than Native Americans except for a bit of war, post contact illnesses and land grabbing a few hundred years ago.
    I have no idea about the Maori, but it can't get much worse than what happened to the North American natives. That's including what happened to Meso- and South-Americans. At least it seems like there were more natives left in South and Meso-America than in North America, where they're almost extinct.
    I think a lot of red indians in north america were mostly hunter-gatherer tribal groups like the commanche and sioux spread over the land whereas in south/central america there were actual civilizations like the incas, mayans, aztecs etc so the populations were probably bigger to start off with.

    Edited by jimbogreen at 21:49:24 21-10-2013
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