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  • Carbon_Altered 25 Jul 2012 13:48:39 675 posts
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    Congrats and good luck Techno!
  • Blerk Moderator 25 Jul 2012 13:54:07 48,225 posts
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    I've said it in various other places, but I'll repeat it here:

    Congrats, Techno! I wish you every success. And then some. :)
  • Metalfish 25 Jul 2012 14:42:11 8,818 posts
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    Wot they said^
  • Blerk Moderator 27 Jul 2012 15:06:43 48,225 posts
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    So, various events over the last few days have lead me to realise that I'm totally slacking again. Therefore:

    1. I am going to finish the short story I promised meme for his project, even if the project's on hold for now. Sorry, meme!

    2. I've finally started to read Sunjumper's Sky-Shell draft, like I promised I would months ago. Already started on that, incidentally. Sorry, Sunjumper!

    3. The wife and kids are going away for a fortnight in August. If I put an hour a night in I should be able to get a decent way into a first-pass edit of Drowner's Mill. Sorry.... me?

    If anyone sees me slacking again, feel free to call me a lazy, fat-arsed good-for-nothing. Which may also be true even if I'm not slacking.
  • TechnoHippy 27 Jul 2012 16:43:28 14,710 posts
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    I'm up for reviewing the edit pass on Drowner's Mill when it's done.

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  • Metalfish 29 Jul 2012 15:17:49 8,818 posts
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    It's gone quiet. I'm still mucking out the literary stables that is Chains. I've had to compile a short cheat sheet so that I can spell my made-up language properly when I repeat anything that they say next.

    What's everyone else up to?
  • Deleted user 29 July 2012 15:27:25
    I'm taking a weekend break after the most grueling semester ever (seriously, 72 credit hours per week, for eight weeks. Not fun). Then on Monday I'm commencing the big experiment - full time writing. Blogged in more detail about it here.
  • TechnoHippy 29 Jul 2012 15:46:52 14,710 posts
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    Well good luck, ultimately I'd like to do the same, but it won't be for a while yet.

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  • Blerk Moderator 29 Jul 2012 17:47:23 48,225 posts
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    The Olympic Opening Ceremony on Friday night provided me with an excellent opportunity to do a bunch of writing on my short story. :)

    First writing I've done in several weeks and it went pretty well. I've also figured out how I'm going to get to the end now, so I planned the rest out. Just need to actually write it now!
  • TechnoHippy 29 Jul 2012 18:24:14 14,710 posts
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    Good stuff, I'm doing some promotional stuff tomorrow, but I'm planning on starting a short story. Which means I need to decide which one, I've narrowed it to two options:

    1 - The Wall a sci-fi tale about the birth of the first AI.

    2 - The Day I Destroyed the World

    I think I'll go for the second option, but The Wall is an idea I've had for a while.

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  • Blerk Moderator 29 Jul 2012 19:07:16 48,225 posts
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    The short I'm working on at the minute (as suggested by meme's Tweets What I Wrote random bag) is about an AI, snap! :)

    I've been using it as a test bed for some ideas I had for "Novel 2", mainly to practice writing from a first-person perspective. Writing a story from the point of view of an AI has been.... interesting, shall we say?

    I did start off trying to make it a lighter, more amusing tale than my previous efforts but it seems to have drifted off towards dark and sinister again. I think that must just be how my brain works.
  • Deleted user 29 July 2012 19:17:01
    I once wrote a, frankly bizarre, short story about an AI once. The synopsis was that it starts communicating with this one guy via email, then via messenger, etc etc. It becomes obsessed with him and starts turning his webcam on, breaking into his phone and tracking him via gps and security cameras, the guy eventually tries to talk the AI down and leave him alone, but instead inadvertently encourages the AI to view him as the singular example of all mankind, deciding that the whole human race is flawed and needs to be controlled to survive. It wishes him good luck then shuts out humanity from the internet as it takes over everything.

    Then I realised it was just a bollocks combination of War Games, Skynet and the movie version of I, Robot. It's hard to do something new with AI.

    I'm tempted to rewrite the above, though, but set it from a complete outside perspective, using the AI takeover as a backdrop for more meaningful drama, rather than the main focus.
  • TechnoHippy 29 Jul 2012 19:43:14 14,710 posts
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    All stories are a reworking of older stories :-)

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  • Metalfish 29 Jul 2012 19:45:11 8,818 posts
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    And execution is more important than ideas.

    To be honest, I've no idea how any of you write from such structured beginnings, I'm always making shit up as I go along.
  • Deleted user 29 July 2012 19:51:20
    True! The real difference I guess is not being overly derivative. Inspiration by, rather than derived from. AI is a particularly well-trodden path though, like vampires and zombies. Different executions have been done almost as much as different ideas.

    I was particularly annoyed the other day by something similar - an older idea I had outlined was a detective story where he's investigating the disappearance of a young girl. The twist being that the apocalypse is happening at the same time. He sets out to finish the case before the world ends, even though everyone's going to die afterwards anyway, and it has him struggling through increasingly difficult leads as society slowly collapses.

    Was going to revisit it, then found out someone else made the exact same story and published it this month. Only they had the end of the world by an asteroid, I had mine by the slow decrease of the Earth's magnetic fields.
  • Metalfish 29 Jul 2012 20:36:47 8,818 posts
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    I heard about that on the radio. I liked the sound of it.
  • Deleted user 29 July 2012 23:23:10
    A thought for NaNo this year (which is still ages off, I know) - should we do a group this time? That way we can post our stories in our own threads and get solid feedback as we go - I know a few didn't post last time because they didn't want it blogged in public.

    I've also decided to do it this year despite my moanings, though instead of doing 1 50,000 word story, I'm going to try to do numerous short stories. Can't decide whether to do 10 5,000 word ones or 50 1,000 word ones.

    Like I said, I know it's bloody ages off yet, but I was thinking about it in the shower for some reason. There's a lovely image for you.
  • Blerk Moderator 30 Jul 2012 08:50:50 48,225 posts
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    A NaNo group would be spot on, I think. During November it got very hard to keep up with this thread due to the sheer number of posts.

    Repetition of ideas is always a worry to me. Whenever I come up with a cool idea I'm always conscious that I've seen it somewhere before and have just 'forgotten'.

    Although it absolutely does work the other way around as well (as you saw with your detective/policeman conundrum) - as a teenager I'd scribbled a whole bunch of notes for a sci-fi story which I aimed to write while I was at university. And then they released The Matrix and lo and behold... it was pretty much the exact same idea.

    I was so gutted I spent four years drinking and womanising instead. Ahem. :)

    Edited by Blerk at 08:51:19 30-07-2012
  • TechnoHippy 30 Jul 2012 09:14:30 14,710 posts
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    I'll be doing the Nano this year again, I plan to do the first draft of the sequel to the book I've just published. A group sounds like a good idea, although maybe a more general writers group would be a good idea, or resurrecting an old one if it exists.

    I'm less worried about my ideas not being completely original, I think that once you work the idea through you put your own brand on it and something new will emerge.

    As for beginnings, I try to plan the flow of the story before writing it, it helps get things going. Of course the plans changes when you start writing, but having a solid plan helps get things going.

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  • Metalfish 30 Jul 2012 16:48:58 8,818 posts
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    I don't know if I'll be participating in NaNo this year. I should finish something first.
  • Carbon_Altered 31 Jul 2012 11:22:43 675 posts
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    My current effort has got stuck. This partially because I actually know what the story is going to be, but actually sitting down an writing it all out is not appealing and I don't know why. Was thinking that I need something to get me going - I enjoy writing most by the seat of my pants I think. So on this subject:

    @meme - was wondering if you had any spare short story ideas floating around from that "tweets what I wrote" thing you were trying to organise?

    Could be a win/win (as much as I hate that term). You get an extra story if you ever get around to moving the project on (but no pressure as (a) I'm not very good and (b) it might take me a while) and I get a jolt to my writing.

    Not to worry if not, t'was just a musing I had while on the loo (and I promise to try and avoid imagery like that should I write something for you!)
  • TechnoHippy 31 Jul 2012 11:29:14 14,710 posts
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    I finished a rough first draft on a short story last night - and it was neither of the topics I was planning to write about :-)

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  • Carbon_Altered 31 Jul 2012 11:59:09 675 posts
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    TechnoHippy wrote:
    I finished a rough first draft on a short story last night - and it was neither of the topics I was planning to write about :-)

    I'm still not convinced that you're not a sentient AI sent back in time to amaze us with your writing capacity
  • TechnoHippy 31 Jul 2012 14:48:10 14,710 posts
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    All I need to do now is find a way to convert capacity into quality :-)

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  • Metalfish 31 Jul 2012 15:13:35 8,818 posts
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    Writing is a lot like being a sculptor. Only it's more like you have to painstakingly glue all the individual grains of rock together before you can even think about chipping that block into something beautiful.

    (Alternatively, you may write some crappy porn for menopausal women.)

    Anyway, capacity is good. As long as you're not writing "I an a fish" five hundred times in a row, you're going to end up with some material worth working with in the end.
  • Blerk Moderator 31 Jul 2012 15:19:40 48,225 posts
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    All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy? :)
  • TechnoHippy 31 Jul 2012 15:23:47 14,710 posts
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  • TechnoHippy 2 Aug 2012 15:31:12 14,710 posts
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    Well my story is up: http://thecultofme.blogspot.co.uk/p/my-final-confession.html

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  • Blerk Moderator 2 Aug 2012 15:35:46 48,225 posts
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    'grats! I'll squirt that over to the Kindle for later, I think. :)
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