Nex-7 officially unveiled

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  • PrivateFloyd 24 Aug 2011 09:55:22 4,117 posts
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    Sony officially out the Nex-7

    Some interesting features in there, the dual control wheel looks nice, i was also unaware it was coming with a built in EVF.

    $1199 body only means i am out though. Combine that with the e-mount lenses. and your looking at a ridiculous amount of money.

    I predict 799 body only in the UK. 950 for kit lens options.

    Goat is hungry.....

  • AaronTurner 24 Aug 2011 10:03:01 7,684 posts
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    Looks really ugly.
  • monkman76 24 Aug 2011 10:08:49 4,176 posts
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    AaronTurner wrote:
    Looks really ugly.

    And this is why, in a nutshell, the NEX cameras are not at all popular on this forum of fancy dans :-)
  • monkman76 24 Aug 2011 10:11:40 4,176 posts
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    As for the NEX-7, yeah, too expensive for me too. But those are some tasty specs, this is a pro's mirrorless camera, hence the price. It should easily beat the even-more-expensive X100 on performance too.

    But the X100's so preeeetty :-P
  • Deleted user 24 August 2011 13:23:09
    Plus the X100 comes with a (fixed) lens. Sony clearly show their intetions with those specs and with the body only option. At that price, I'm out too and will get a 5N body instead. 1-2 years from now I'll prolly upgrade. By then, it should be cheaper and have grown up firmware.
  • crisotunity 24 Aug 2011 15:31:22 149 posts
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    It is a beast and I'm sure it will produce outstanding images.
    BUT I would like to see it in the flesh: how much smaller and lighter is this NEX7 than say a D7000 or a 7D? How does it feel with a heavy lens on it?

  • coda 24 Aug 2011 15:38:06 1,868 posts
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    AaronTurner wrote:
    Looks really ugly.

    I really like it's pragmatic styling. What don't you like about the way it looks?
  • mal 24 Aug 2011 15:51:49 22,462 posts
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    I think it looks better than the other NEX cameras with a chunky lens like the one shown there do.

    I'm a little suspicious about the controls. That right hand dial doesn't seem to be easy to reach to me. And the fact they haven't revealed how they will work in modes other than Manual yet.

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • monkman76 24 Aug 2011 15:57:49 4,176 posts
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    mal wrote:
    I'm a little suspicious about the controls. That right hand dial doesn't seem to be easy to reach to me. And the fact they haven't revealed how they will work in modes other than Manual yet.

    About halfway down this page: http://dpreview.com/news/1108/11082419sonynex7overview.asp

    Looks pretty sensible to me.
  • monkman76 24 Aug 2011 16:01:31 4,176 posts
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    I think the problem for Sony is that you'll need some serious lenses to get the full benefit of 24MP. Not sure any of the current NEX crop will do the sensor justice. Sony does have the high-end Zeiss 24/1.8 coming out but that's got a list price of $1000! Ouch.
  • mal 24 Aug 2011 17:42:10 22,462 posts
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    They've announced a new alpha-mount adaptor alongside this. Bit chunky, but it adds phase-detect AF as well as enabling access to all the Sony Alpha and Minolta AF lenses. Bit pricey though.

    monkman76 wrote:
    mal wrote:
    I'm a little suspicious about the controls. That right hand dial doesn't seem to be easy to reach to me. And the fact they haven't revealed how they will work in modes other than Manual yet.

    About halfway down this page: http://dpreview.com/news/1108/11082419sonynex7overview.asp

    Looks pretty sensible to me.

    So it looks like a standard two-dial setup plus a dedicated ISO dial, at least in the default settings. I guess if it's the right hand dial that's used for ISO that'll be fine, although I can't see in that preview which dial is 1, 2 and 3.

    Cubby didn't know how to turn off sigs!

  • MrTomFTW Moderator 24 Aug 2011 18:31:18 37,851 posts
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    coda wrote:
    AaronTurner wrote:
    Looks really ugly.

    I really like it's pragmatic styling. What don't you like about the way it looks?
    Yo coda, reply to your PMs dammit :-)

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  • monkman76 24 Aug 2011 18:47:13 4,176 posts
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    mal wrote:
    They've announced a new alpha-mount adaptor alongside this. Bit chunky, but it adds phase-detect AF as well as enabling access to all the Sony Alpha and Minolta AF lenses. Bit pricey though.

    It's massive though innit, kind of defeats the object. Might as well get one of the new Sony SLTs (also 24MP). (The A65 has got some tasty specs for a consumer-level camera.)
  • Deleted user 24 August 2011 19:59:27
    That mount is obviously for existing Alpha/Minolta users, I suppose they'll find it quite attractive.

    monkman76 wrote:I think the problem for Sony is that you'll need some serious lenses to get the full benefit of 24MP.
    Because of the short flange distance of the E-mount, you can attach pretty much any lens out there to it via an adapter.

    The 5N and the 7 seem to have in-camera correction for these lenses, along with the sensor-level fixes that were already introduced with the C3 camera.

    With Leica glass, it's fully possible that the 5N and the 7 will produce better images (technically) than using a M9 body which costs more than 6 times. Interesting times!
  • cheeky_prawnking 24 Aug 2011 20:02:43 4,457 posts
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    valli wrote:
    flange

    **snigger**
  • monkman76 24 Aug 2011 20:09:14 4,176 posts
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    True valli but sometimes you just need autofocus. One high-end AF lens isn't going to cut it for long.
  • crisotunity 25 Aug 2011 14:19:49 149 posts
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    This is the best thing about mirrorless: stick any old lens on it and you might come up with a jewel for the price of a couple of pints (e.g. FD and OM glass).
    Sadly, when it comes to specialist lenses (macro, wild-life/birding), you have to go back to CanoNikon - for now at least. I am looking forward to see what these will be like:
    http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-panasonic-announcement-at-6am-london-time-x-lens-with-nano-surface-coating/
  • monkman76 25 Aug 2011 14:47:33 4,176 posts
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    NEX is great for macro actually - stick any old cheap MF macro lens or even a standard prime + tubes, and manual focusing is a doddle with the peaking and 7x / 14x zoom features.

    My last 4 or 5 pics in the Gallery thread were macro / close-ups taken with a NEX-3 and old Canon FD primes. Not pro quality but that's not because of the gear :-)

    I also have a D7000 but I'd much rather use the NEX for macro as it's much easier to focus manually.
  • crisotunity 25 Aug 2011 16:02:46 149 posts
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    Good stuff Monkman!

    I might have to reinvest in a mirrorless - I still have my FDs (35 and 100) and the nex-3 is coming down in price. Which FD do you find most useful for macro work?
  • monkman76 25 Aug 2011 16:33:02 4,176 posts
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    Thanks! Well, I've just bought a proper FD macro lens on ebay (sigma 50mm, only does 1:2), but before that I was using a 50mm f1.8.

    With a standard set of extension tubes (12mm, 20mm, 36mm) you could get to ~2:1 (double life size!) with all 3 tubes attached to your 35mm - but it'd be really hard to handhold and you'd probably be touching your subject. You'd probably get best results with just the 12mm tube attached to the 35mm lens, or all three tubes on the 100mm - both would give you roughly 1:2 which is much easier to handhold. 100mm would be harder to focus as any movements in your hand are magnified that much more.

    tl;dr - get a 50mm, perfect middle ground!
  • crisotunity 26 Aug 2011 11:20:13 149 posts
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    Thank you. I'm a newbie with macro, apart from a totally abortive experience with a Raynox (which is what led me to believe that you can't do macro without a "proper" specialised lens).
    I'll start with a 12mm extension on my Canon: it's the cheapest and most cheerful entry point I think.
    And if things go well, I'll get hold of a 2nd hand NEX with extension tubes and adapters for my FDs (you can't beat a mirror-less for Live View).
  • Deleted user 27 August 2011 08:04:00
    For now (based on prototypes) it seems they pushed the MP limit too hard and they get noisy sensors:
    http://www.eoshd.com/content/3802/which-is-best-for-low-light-sony-nex-5n-or-nex-7-and-a77

    A77 above is the same sensor as the NEX-7. Unless they've troll manipulated that comparison, the NEX-5N performs extremely well, maybe even better than the D7000 and the Pentax K5.
  • Deleted user 27 August 2011 08:07:37
    crisotunity wrote:And if things go well, I'll get hold of a 2nd hand NEX with extension tubes and adapters for my FDs (you can't beat a mirror-less for Live View).
    Good call, that rotating LCD screen looks the biz if you want to do macro, especially with focus peeking.

    As for FDs, some of the lenses are amazing, I saw some comparisons where the 28mm performed better overall than some modern Zeiss that costs 10 times more.
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