Oh dear a sequel to Army Of Darkness. Surely he'd have to do a new story anyway as Evil Dead 4: Deadites Of The Future really would suck big time .gif)
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bad09 4,623 posts
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evild_edd 2,645 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI love Army Of Darkness. I just don't get the hate; it's brilliantly bonkers. Mind you, I actually saw AoD before the other Evil Dead films, so wasn't burdened with expectation.
My favourite remains ED2. Just personal preference. I get that it's 'cool' to prefer the original, and that certain people refuse to accept that a sequel could ever be better than an original, but that doesn't alter the fact that ED2 outdoes the original in every way. It's also far more 're-watchable' than ED.
Having said that, all three are great in their individual ways. I love the fact I can watch them in isolation and still enjoy them as much; that's not the case for other series where I often feel compelled to watch all of them in a short timeframe.Why look, it's a blog:
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evild_edd 2,645 posts
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Registered 6 years agobad09 wrote:
Depends which ending he was going for.
Oh dear a sequel to Army Of Darkness. Surely he'd have to do a new story anyway as Evil Dead 4: Deadites Of The Future really would suck big time
He could do a post-apocalyptic ED4 if he went with the "slept too long" ending.
Alternatively, he could return to present day but in an urban setting if he went with the alternate 'shopping mall' ending.
They're both do-able, but I'd probably err towards the first. Can't see it happening mind you; Raimi's been promising to work on a script but things always get in the way.Why look, it's a blog:
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BillCityfingers 429 posts
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Registered 12 months agoAlthough there's more and more talk recently, probably fueled by the positivity surrounding the remake...
Also, I don't love the original because it's "cool" to do so. Merely because I prefer it.
All this talk is making me want to fish out my evil dead box set though.
I would still pay to see an army of darkness sequel despite everything mind you. I prefer the s mart ending."You can kill an otter in about a second, just kick it's face off."
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bad09 4,623 posts
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Well he'd probably go with the original ending to make it easier, mind you I need to re-view the alternate one such a long time ago now I forget. Wasn't it a weird musical number or something? -
Goodfella 2,013 posts
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Registered 8 years agoThere were only ever two endings to AoD weren't there, the 'post apocalypse' one and the S Mart one?
I think I prefer the post apocalypse one.
As long as he doesn't make a prequel. I wouldn't be keen on a silly AoD type sequel though either. I think basically I want another more darker one like the first film but that's never going to happen is it. -
evild_edd 2,645 posts
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Deadite, trampoline, S-Mart store, "hail to the king, baby"... I don't recall it being set to music, but it's been a while for me as well TBF!
@BillCityfingers
Nothing wrong with preferring the original, I just think a lot of people (particularly on the net) seem to adopt an automatic stance of love original and seek fault in sequels. Sure you've come across such types who seem intent on disliking films before they've even seen them. Hell, there was a lot of negativity about this remake, with many judging before they've even seen it, and even criticising the trailers.
Anyway, if you prefer ED then that's awesome. I just don't see why people think ED2 was 'worse' because it introduced humour. For me that was what distinguished ED2 from the countless gory horror films out there. And Bruce Campbell is a modern master of slapstick comedy.Why look, it's a blog:
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evild_edd 2,645 posts
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Registered 6 years agoGoodfella wrote:
Isn't that what the remake's for...?
There were only ever two endings to AoD weren't there, the 'post apocalypse' one and the S Mart one?
I think I prefer the post apocalypse one.
As long as he doesn't make a prequel. I wouldn't be keen on a silly AoD type sequel though either. I think basically I want another more darker one like the first film but that's never going to happen is it.
I think any AoD sequel would have to retain the comedy and keep Campbell at the helm. The problem with tackling a post apocalyptic setting would be the budget. You'd want to make use of the setting to differentiate it from the others, but whether you could do that on the cheap, I'm unconvinced. Though the fan base is loyal, it's hardly sizable enough to attract a £100m+ budget from one of the major studios.Why look, it's a blog:
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Having said that, all three are great in their individual ways..gif)
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bad09 4,623 posts
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Yeah just watched it on YT, can't think why I thought there was music in there
Fucking terrible though...
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Registered 11 years agoED2 is one of my all time favourite films. The direction, the humour, the creativity with the visual effects and the whole thing is in a small cabin in some woods. It's just a masterpiece of perfectly crafted fun.
ED1 and AoD don't hold a candle to it, but they're not a bad watch either. One had the darkness, the other had the slapstick and ED2 was bang in the middle.
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Goodfella 2,013 posts
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Registered 8 years agoevild_edd wrote:
Not really, I'd like to see Raimi once again put his stamp on a really good horror. Since ED 2 his output has been mostly 'comedy'/dark drama.Goodfella wrote:
Isn't that what the remake's for...?
There were only ever two endings to AoD weren't there, the 'post apocalypse' one and the S Mart one?
I think I prefer the post apocalypse one.
As long as he doesn't make a prequel. I wouldn't be keen on a silly AoD type sequel though either. I think basically I want another more darker one like the first film but that's never going to happen is it. -
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Registered 5 years agoED2 was Raimi really coming into his own as a director. In many ways, ED1 was just a beta test of Within The Woods' alpha, a prototype version where he was basically winging it as he went and discovering what works and what doesn't.GHOSTBUSTERS
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gooner77 404 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI really want to see this but unfortunately none if my friends and family want to
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bad09 4,623 posts
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Registered 6 years agoGoodfella wrote:
I'd like that to, the man made one of the greatest horror movies ever then simply left the genre only coming back for horror/comedy.
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Goodfella 2,013 posts
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Registered 8 years agoI'm not even sure he ever wanted to make ED1 that serious. I get the feeling it was just a product of the time (the video nasty) and a route into film making to do what you 'really' want to do. Dunno.
Either way, I'd love him to go serious again. The very opening credits of The Evil Dead left an imprint on me to this day, it was such a unique experience at the time. That beeeooooowwwww sound, so simple, so effective. Gives me chills even now.
(35 seconds in)
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BillCityfingers 429 posts
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Registered 12 months ago@evild_edd Oh I totally agree with you man and for the record, I love Evil Dead 2. It's just the humour wasn't what I sought from it, that's all. Certainly not worse from a quality or directorial perspective, just not what I was looking for in terms of darkness, then again, I'm a bit of a morbid bastard! Let's face it, there was humour in the first one too, just more subtle. I don't go for slapstick comedy,never have but can totally appreciate why people love the second one as to be honest the first time I watched it when I was wee I'm pretty sure I preferred it. Over time though I found myself drifting towards the first one more and more and now resolutely consider it the best one of the trilogy for me.
Slapstick or not, Raimi's distinctive style makes all three head and shoulders above most films in their respective genres. What's exciting about this remake is that the energy of Evil Dead seems to have been retained. That total maniacal mayhem that, whatever anyone's opinions of the Raimi films, can't disagree that they are defined by.
I'm so mixed up over Army of Darkness I'll probably need to watch it again as I loved it the first time and hated it the latter times I watched it. S"You can kill an otter in about a second, just kick it's face off."
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BillCityfingers 429 posts
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Registered 12 months ago@Goodfella That camera work is immense. Love it! Right. I'm digging these films out this weekend dammit."You can kill an otter in about a second, just kick it's face off."
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Goodfella 2,013 posts
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Registered 8 years agoBillCityfingers wrote:
Isn't it just.
@Goodfella That camera work is immense.
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Registered 5 years agoJust listened to the OST. Suitably meaty, very nice. -
evild_edd 2,645 posts
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Registered 6 years agoNice Youtube link Goodfella. That camerawork is masterful, and Raimi's greatest strength. Anyone know if the remake retains such ambitious camerawork? I've been steering clear of reviews for spoiler purposes (if it's even possible to spoiler a remake)...
Like others on this thread, I really need to see the originals again soon.Why look, it's a blog:
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Goodfella 2,013 posts
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Registered 8 years agoThat's an interesting point, the camerawork from the original ED is one of it's defining qualities. It would be nice to see similar techniques used in the remake. -
kalel 76,472 posts
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Registered 10 years agoYou only have to look at what happened with Spider-Man 3 to see that Raimi has some very strange ideas of what is funny and entertaining. He is obviously a massive talent in some respects, but he does get a bit carried away with things sometimes. -
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BillCityfingers 429 posts
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Registered 12 months ago@Goodfella All I know for sure is that they mimic the free cam deadites roaming though woods type of effect (technical term
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Goodfella 2,013 posts
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Registered 8 years agokalel wrote:
Yeah, I think part of it is his obsession with the three stooges, who frankly are about as funny as piles.
You only have to look at what happened with Spider-Man 3 to see that Raimi has some very strange ideas of what is funny and entertaining. He is obviously a massive talent in some respects, but he does get a bit carried away with things sometimes. -
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spindle9988 2,274 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI relly liked army of darkness. Watched loads of times as a teenager. I agree it's not as good as the 1st but there are some great scenes in there. Pouring boiling hot water down his throat whilst sayong do you want some hot chocolate was genius -
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