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  • Pinky_Floyd 2 Aug 2013 08:46:47 6,421 posts
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    More demo pods is a great idea - and given the zillions of machines lying around in warehouses would be a great use of resources.
  • midi82 2 Aug 2013 08:53:36 578 posts
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    It just seems pretty obvious, the one thing that physical shops have over online is the ability to let the customers try stuff out.

    I know that if I tried something in store I would probably buy it there and then if I liked it rather than ordering online and having to wait.
  • JuanKerr 2 Aug 2013 08:54:17 36,094 posts
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    The Game near me has a demo pod, but only Mario is playable. And the gamepad is covered in grease. And you have to stand about a foot from the screen, so it just looks like a pixely mess.

    Hardly the best way to promote a console.
  • Roddles 2 Aug 2013 08:54:37 1,429 posts
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    ^
    That.
  • Deckard1 2 Aug 2013 08:57:46 25,406 posts
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    Pinky_Floyd wrote:
    Let's face it, it's never going to gain the mass market traction now of either the PS3, 360, Wii (or most likely what the next gen consoles will reach).

    However, it is likely to do a gamecube and provide a good few years of nintendo first party games for those who wish to enjoy them.
    I'm not even sure it'll do that to be honest. Its dead in the water.

    Called it

  • Pinky_Floyd 2 Aug 2013 09:08:43 6,421 posts
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    Deckard1 wrote:
    Pinky_Floyd wrote:
    Let's face it, it's never going to gain the mass market traction now of either the PS3, 360, Wii (or most likely what the next gen consoles will reach).

    However, it is likely to do a gamecube and provide a good few years of nintendo first party games for those who wish to enjoy them.
    I'm not even sure it'll do that to be honest. Its dead in the water.
    It's really not, at least until Nintendo say it is and stop developing for it. Dead in the water as a machine for third party games? That might be closer to the truth but even then there are still a few in development and if sales pick up there could be more.

    While the machine is most definitely down, I don't think it's quite out yet.
  • neilka 2 Aug 2013 09:11:07 14,942 posts
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    It'll be fine as long as none of the competition release any new consoles this Christmas.
  • Deckard1 2 Aug 2013 09:17:04 25,406 posts
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    Its dead. Over. Finito. Kaput. It is an extinct console. It is no more. Departed. Defunct. DEAD.

    Called it

  • Pinky_Floyd 2 Aug 2013 09:18:23 6,421 posts
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    Strange definition of dead right enough.
  • Cappy 2 Aug 2013 09:19:25 11,704 posts
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    Selling worse than the Dreamcast isn't that bad really.
  • Zizoo 2 Aug 2013 09:21:55 7,704 posts
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    But off the shelves it will fly!
  • Pinky_Floyd 2 Aug 2013 09:29:42 6,421 posts
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    Why would Pikmin 3 boost sales? It's a relatively niche title.

    Again - how is the console dead with Nintendo remaining to support it with key titles still in development despite horrendous sales figures.

    Until that changes, and it might, then it's not dead. In trouble, most definitely.

    You may believe that Nintendo will drop support and kill it - but that's not the same thing as them actually doing it. They seem stubborn enough and financially healthy enough not to want - or need to at this point.
  • atomicjuicer 2 Aug 2013 09:38:51 274 posts
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    Nintendo damaged their rep with wii (mostly kids games and no Metroid or starfox or fzero).

    I for one haven't forgotten and haven't bought a wii u due to its lack of exclusive non kiddy games.

    Sorry to say it but wii u is screwed.
  • Progguitarist 2 Aug 2013 09:45:09 10,316 posts
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    Shame it didn't catch on, it has some nice features.
  • MrSemprini 2 Aug 2013 09:51:21 9,330 posts
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    atomicjuicer wrote:
    Nintendo damaged their rep with wii (mostly kids games and no Metroid or starfox or fzero).

    I for one haven't forgotten
    Yeah, apart from Metroid Prime 3, Metroid Other M and a packaged up Prime Trilogy, the lack of any Metroid was a shambles. That's what pisses me off about the U - not a single Mario game released or even announced.
  • Pinky_Floyd 2 Aug 2013 10:03:13 6,421 posts
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    GAME have seen a strong upturn with Pikmin 3, Luigi and the digital sales.

    http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/wii-u-are-not-alone-specialist-retail-backs-console/0119592

    Edited by Pinky_Floyd at 10:03:55 02-08-2013
  • Cappy 2 Aug 2013 10:04:49 11,704 posts
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    This was a long time coming, Nintendo should have heeded the lessons of the Gamecube, you simply can't decide to ignore entire sections of the gaming audience just because they don't fit in with what you think people should be playing.

    Nobody is suggesting that Nintendo makes something like ultra violent shooters but they really needed to focus on the games rather than pieces of peripheral hardware. What possibilities does this new hardware bring to the table for games? A question answered by breakout hits like GTA III where the possibilities of new baseline hardware enabled something that players had been dreaming of for years, there's no reason why Nintendo can't think big, why can't all those Animal Crossing towns stitch together into cohesive open worlds for instance? When you want to visit somewhere why can't you just walk down the road and explore?

    I've never liked Mario Kart of Smash Brothers and I don't care for side scrollers anymore, how are you going to make money from me when the range of games on your platforms is so narrow?
  • Frogofdoom 2 Aug 2013 10:10:57 801 posts
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    Always found it strange why they never made a proper pokemon game for their home consoles tbh, they portable ones sell like crazy so you would think it made sense.
  • nickthegun 2 Aug 2013 10:12:23 55,848 posts
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    They are tripping balls if they think anyone cares enough about WW HD for it to help change its fortunes.

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  • Deleted user 2 August 2013 10:12:43
    atomicjuicer wrote:
    Nintendo damaged their rep with wii (mostly kids games and no Metroid or starfox or fzero).

    I for one haven't forgotten and haven't bought a wii u due to its lack of exclusive non kiddy games.

    Sorry to say it but wii u is screwed.
    What about Pikmin 3, when you think about it, you are effectively being what hitler did to the jews. Except its colourful. KIDDDDDDYYYYY!
  • Pinky_Floyd 2 Aug 2013 10:12:55 6,421 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    They are tripping balls if they think anyone cares enough about WW HD for it to help change its fortunes.
    Yep, but they aren't talking about just that one game in isolation.
  • nickthegun 2 Aug 2013 10:13:45 55,848 posts
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    Frogofdoom wrote:
    Always found it strange why they never made a proper pokemon game for their home consoles tbh, they portable ones sell like crazy so you would think it made sense.
    Its because they fundamentally dont understand online play. Take monster hunter, reskin it with pokemon, retire to private island.

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  • Deleted user 2 August 2013 10:14:37
    nickthegun wrote:
    They are tripping balls if they think anyone cares enough about WW HD for it to help change its fortunes.
    I agree with this, but at the same time, Zelda is a big franchise, and considering WW was on the console that sold fuck all, i think there be a fair few people yet to play it, and would want to. I think it give it a minor sales bump.
  • nickthegun 2 Aug 2013 10:15:20 55,848 posts
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    Pinky_Floyd wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    They are tripping balls if they think anyone cares enough about WW HD for it to help change its fortunes.
    Yep, but they aren't talking about just that one game in isolation.
    No, but my point is that its not even worth speaking of in the same breath as mario kart and Mario 3D Super World Land.

    Then again, it is a critical darling, so its no surprise.

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  • Deckard1 2 Aug 2013 10:20:48 25,406 posts
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    I can't see that dodgy looking Mario game doing fuck all for sales either. Mario Kart might give it a slight bump I guess. If only they could have had it out for christmas....

    But yeah the console is dead. When the the sales bump for a major price cut on a six month old console is measured in the hundreds you know its over.

    Its actually kind of depressing. But then I remember ecosse and it becomes funny again.

    Called it

  • Deleted user 2 August 2013 10:24:14
    I think its too early to call. The console ain't a year old yet. The games aren't there, but coming. If its still in the mess this time next year, it def fucked.

    The problem is, is whether, Nintendo are making the decisions to go ahead with 3/4th gen games at the moment.
  • Frogofdoom 2 Aug 2013 10:25:33 801 posts
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    @nickthegun Yeah exactly, its a gold mine waiting to be tapped. Ive never played the handheld pokemons so i dont know what all the fuss is about, but the sales figures are always cracking from what i have seen.
  • RichieTenenbaum 2 Aug 2013 10:32:47 2,157 posts
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    Like most people, I love Ninty. However I cannot justify owning more than one console each generation. I got my fingers burnt with the GameCube. Sure, there was some great stuff, but also absolutely tons of quality that I missed.
    It's the same with the Wii U. I love Mario but I also want the best version of FIFA and don't want to be missing something really good. I just can't buy one.

    If they want to have any hope they need to throw money at third parties to develop for it. Make profit guarantees on titles, and maybe buy some studios to have as second party studios.

    Maybe buy Sega?
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