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  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 12:17:57
    How is Ofgen supposed to know what the cheapest rate is?
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 12:21:41
    /facepalm
  • shamblemonkee 18 Oct 2012 12:24:38 17,318 posts
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    Yeah no idea how that was allowed to go through, bloody obvious.
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 12:31:12
    Couldn't they use an index of prices and have their costs published?

    Trying to create a solution to a fucked up policy.
  • TheSaint 18 Oct 2012 12:32:29 17,306 posts
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    The thinking seemed to be that all the companies would offer just one tariff and then it would be easy to spot the cheapest.
  • Dougs 18 Oct 2012 12:34:25 82,726 posts
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    This is just a policy proposal at this point though - there's been nothing presented to or passed by the House. Plenty of room for manoeuvre in other words!
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 12:35:56
    Good cause they'd be fucking retarded to just do that.
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 12:36:50
    LeoliansBro wrote:
    Why not stagger Energy Costs by income?
    That's a little too interfering isn't it? Sounds like something an uber left wing Labour government would try and do.
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 12:42:27
    Yeah but what forces down costs then? It's too inefficient at the suppler side.
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 12:46:06
    What happens when they have their chunk? I suppose the incentive is to lower costs to gain more profit even if prices are fixed at income levels but I don't think that's as efficient an incentive as prices and competition.
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 12:52:07
    So companies will bid to be the supplier of the entire nation?!
  • Dougs 18 Oct 2012 12:56:50 82,726 posts
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    Still isn't solving the one big problem - how to ensure cheaper, long-lasting energy supplies for the future. Drive the cost of wholesale down and prices should fall. Assuming the regulator does their job anyway
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 13:01:47
    I'm not liking this one supplier talk, sounds an awful lot like a monopoly.
  • senso-ji 18 Oct 2012 13:15:31 7,941 posts
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    Trying to get the cheapest energy prices from imported natural resources is stupid. If we want affordable electricity in the future, the government will need to start the building of the renewable energy power stations that are waiting to be approved.
  • RobTheBuilder 18 Oct 2012 13:26:38 6,938 posts
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    Just like banks, petrol stations, top bosses, as always cost go up and prices go up, cost go down and prices remain.

    I think the government should start a no frills energy supplier service that undercuts the big suppliers, making money for the country and forcing others to put their prices down.
  • Dougs 18 Oct 2012 13:39:13 82,726 posts
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    Isn't all energy no-frills? There's no difference in the end product, only differentiation is price. And service if you give a shit.
  • Carbon_Altered 18 Oct 2012 13:42:40 806 posts
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    senso-ji wrote:
    the government will need to start the building of the renewable energy power stations that are waiting to be approved.
    as well as relaxing the environmental constraints on all that lovely shale gas??
  • Mortey 18 Oct 2012 13:44:16 28 posts
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    People will die due to not being able to afford to heat their home, but hey as long as investors get their money.

    That is the real issue here. Re-nationalise all necessities and charge a little more in TAX (which could be fair if they bothered thinking about it) to build futher generators.
  • RobTheBuilder 18 Oct 2012 13:48:46 6,938 posts
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    @Dougs Well yeah, I meant service basically, a simple tariff, no complex options, no paper bills etc. Something that gives the energy firms (who essentially operate as a cartel in the manner that BA and Virgin were fined for doing in air travel) some real competition in pricing, as they clearly ignore realistic pricing.

    I read that in the past decade or so energy costs have gone up by 50% but bills have gone up by over 100%. It's scandalous.
  • TheSaint 18 Oct 2012 13:48:50 17,306 posts
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    MORE TAX.
  • Deleted user 18 October 2012 13:50:20
    Just like banks and top bosses?
  • chopsen 18 Oct 2012 14:15:25 19,813 posts
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    In theory, that's how the NHS works now, and how that is supposed to find efficiencies. In theory...
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