craigy wrote:Then this will bring a nostalgic tear to your eye
I mostly like Oscar Peterson and Billy Taylor. Piano jazz is my favourite.
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pinebear 8,555 posts
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Just queued it on Spotify out of curiosity. Sounds cool, good for programming to.
/jazz n00b
/awaits life-changing moment
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Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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billythekid 10,259 posts
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Registered 7 years agoGoban wrote:
Do I have to get half cut and fill my darkened living room with cigarette smoke?
If you don't actually listen to it properly it might.
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Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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Registered 11 years agoBlerk wrote:
I hope that's not spotify with adverts in the middle as it will kind of wreck the mood quite a bit!
Just queued it on Spotify out of curiosity. Sounds cool, good for programming to.
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MetalDog 23,448 posts
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Registered 11 years agoGoban wrote:
Er, yeah. Check out Mr. Sleep's response for a rational example of how to react for someone not gushing over something you like
If you don't actually listen to it properly it might.
Seriously, you can't see Frank Drebin at all when you listen to that? =D
I don't hate it, but it's not the sort of jazz I'd pay money for. I do like some jazz - just not that sort much. Better than the full on 'we're all playing different tunes' stuff by a mile though.-- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.
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Mr Sleep wrote:
Sadly it is. I'm sure British Gas will be gentle.Blerk wrote:
I hope that's not spotify with adverts in the middle as it will kind of wreck the mood quite a bit!
Just queued it on Spotify out of curiosity. Sounds cool, good for programming to.
/jazz n00b
/awaits life-changing moment
Edit: glol! Literally one second after hitting 'post'..... There they are! :-D -
Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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Registered 11 years agoMetalDog wrote:
I should point out that I love Kind of Blue and it was one of my first jazz records but yeah, it's not for everyone.Goban wrote:
Er, yeah. Check out Mr. Sleep's response for a rational example of how to react for someone not gushing over something you like
If you don't actually listen to it properly it might. Seriously, you can't see Frank Drebin at all when you listen to that? =D
I don't hate it, but it's not the sort of jazz I'd pay money for. I do like some jazz - just not that sort much. Better than the full on 'we're all playing different tunes' stuff by a mile though.
I love listening to the "we're all playing different tunes" stuff but I have to be in the right mood. I can absolutely understand why it isn't for everyone. Most people into rock wont chose to listen to Trout Mask Replica more than once but I love it and as random as it seems there is a lot of ideas and themes and practice behind the whole thing. It's the same thing with a lot of free jazz as it's not just a bunch of people playing randomly, there is skill involved.
Oh and I was trying to find some Sun Ra weirdness but in the end I found this piece of awesome. -
Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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Registered 11 years agoBlerk wrote:
Hah :-D Well hopefully spotify will whet your appetite sufficiently for you to listen to it in a more salubrious setting.
Sadly it is. I'm sure British Gas will be gentle.
Edit: glol! Literally one second after hitting 'post'..... There they are! :-D -
henro_ben 2,118 posts
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Registered 7 years agoMetalDog wrote:
Swing is a type of jazz. Personally I prefer the early stuff - pre 50's, when it was actually played as dance music. When you've got a proper big band playing live it's amazing how much energy there is in the music.
I'm always a bit baffled by music definitions. I love Tommy Dorsey, but is that more jazz or more swing? Either way, I seem to be stuck somewhere between 1920 and 1939 when it comes to jazz-type music. -
Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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Oh man, I feel like I need a glass of wine!
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MetalDog 23,448 posts
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Registered 11 years ago@Mr. Sleep - I do understand that there's a lot of skill involved in those.
Musical taste - a lot like sense of humour, incredibly subjective things. It's strange how music that absolutely fills me up can leave someone else cold or in loathing and vice versa.-- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.
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Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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Registered 11 years agoMetalDog wrote:
Fair enough
@Mr. Sleep - I do understand that there's a lot of skill involved in those.
Musical taste - a lot like sense of humour, incredibly subjective things. It's strange how music that absolutely fills me up can leave someone else cold or in loathing and vice versa..gif)
A lot of people seem to think it's free so therefore they are just playing anything, which is sort of true but it misses out the complexity of thought and feeling that goes into it. Free jazz was just an evolution, not necessarily one that benefited the species ( .gif)
) but if you as a musician have investigated everything you can in bebop and modal and all those other styles then you have to move somewhere. Hence free jazz, there's a whole raft of philosophy behind it too.
It's true as you say, music is pretty subjective. There's probably various nature and nuture reasons for liking certain thing. Apparently, a lot of rhythms rely on a natural affinity to what is seen as our mums heartbeat and we're hard wired to find that comforting and it is suggested we respond to rhythms because of this. I'm sure there's many other reasons too.
Although I will say that I don't know a single woman who is into free jazz, or prog for that matter -
MetalDog 23,448 posts
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Registered 11 years agohenro_ben wrote:
Yeah, that's the stuff I like =)
Swing is a type of jazz. Personally I prefer the early stuff - pre 50's, when it was actually played as dance music. When you've got a proper big band playing live it's amazing how much energy there is in the music.
I do like some of the more sedate stuff, but I can't think how to label it...
This version of Summertime and Dark City's Sway.-- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.
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boo 10,770 posts
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Registered 10 years agoMr Sleep wrote:Most people into rock wont chose to listen to Trout Mask Replica more than once but I love it.
/runs screaming from the thread suffering post-traumatic stress disorder flashbacks
Don't make me listen to it again!
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Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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Registered 11 years agoboo wrote:
:-D Dachau Blues! Dachau Blues!Mr Sleep wrote:Most people into rock wont chose to listen to Trout Mask Replica more than once but I love it.
/runs screaming from the thread suffering post-traumatic stress disorder flashbacks
Don't make me listen to it again!
/curls up in foetal position and weeps
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Cadence 1,526 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAllan Holdsworth
My favourite jazz musician by far. Playing the guitar like that is akin to witchcraft in my book. -
Cadence 1,526 posts
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Registered 7 years agoMr Sleep wrote:
Tight also!boo wrote:
:-D Dachau Blues! Dachau Blues!Mr Sleep wrote:Most people into rock wont chose to listen to Trout Mask Replica more than once but I love it.
/runs screaming from the thread suffering post-traumatic stress disorder flashbacks
Don't make me listen to it again!
/curls up in foetal position and weeps
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MetalDog 23,448 posts
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Registered 11 years agoMr Sleep wrote:
There are bound to be exceptions male and female, but it's maybe something to do with this sort of thing? Ignore the slightly sexist overtones of 'better' listening in that article though - just 'different' covers it.
Although I will say that I don't know a single woman who is into free jazz, or prog for that matter-- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.
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Well, "Kind of Blue" was kind of great. I'm all chilled out now and could possibly do with a nap.
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localnotail 21,427 posts
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Registered 4 years agoSurely Everyone Digs Bill Evans?
My Dad is a big jazz fan, he's got yards of it on vinyl, has its own room. So I grew up listening to it, still do at times, mostly classic though, not really into seeking out new stuff although I rate my friend's Django-inspired band highly. I've been listening to Sketches of Spain this morning while deep in the grip of data entry. I like some prog. I like some jazz. I like some of pretty much everything (except crabcore)Fire up the Cobra!
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Registered 7 years agoI've listened to loads of links from this thread now and it has become pretty apparent to me that I have wasted £3. I'm never going to like jazz. -
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Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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Registered 11 years agoMetalDog wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure there are exceptions, it's pretty much an exception to like free jazz or prog so there being women who like it is highly likely. I was just speaking of personal experience.Mr Sleep wrote:
There are bound to be exceptions male and female, but it's maybe something to do with this sort of thing? Ignore the slightly sexist overtones of 'better' listening in that article though - just 'different' covers it.
Although I will say that I don't know a single woman who is into free jazz, or prog for that matter
I have to sign in to view that page you linked to, by the way.
That Allan Holdsworth reminds me of a lot of jazz I don't like. Just personal taste and all that. I went to see John McLaughlin a while back and it reminds me of that and I didn't enjoy it one bit. Although I did used to like The Inner Mounting Flame and his work on In a Silent Way is amazing. Jazz where guitar is the main solo instrument is generally pretty rubbish to these ears, too much noodle. -
Cadence 1,526 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThat's a shame! I remember when I got into him when I was about 13 my mum used to often scream up to my room to turn it down because she said it sounded like a cat being strangled.gif)
No accounting for taste I guess! Have you heard Extrapolation by John McLaughlin? That's a classic. -
MetalDog 23,448 posts
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Registered 11 years agoMr Sleep wrote:
Heh - bizarre, direct from google was alright. Upshot = men (mostly) activate the left side of the brain associated with language and listening when they hear music. Women activate that same area but (mostly) also activate right side brain areas associated with musical learning and spacial awareness.
I have to sign in to view that page you linked to, by the way.
I reckon minor variations in individual's brain-lighting-upness* would probably account for our tastes too, if you could track it well enough.
*sorry for all the high-minded jargon there-- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.
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Mr_Sleep 13,521 posts
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Registered 11 years agojonsaan wrote:
I'll see that and raise you Paco De Lucia
So cruel yet so fun.
I've not heard Extrapolation but I've pretty much gone off McLaughlin after listening to Birds of Fire, it took all the crap bits from Inner Mounting Flame and turned them up to eleven! I still want to get Live In San Francisco as what I've heard of that is pretty amazing. He was much better with an acoustic and I hate his DI effects pedal crap that he's doing now.
billythekid, you should try some afrobeat instead, like Fela Kuti, might be more up your street if traditional jazz doesn't do it for you. Or just give up and realise we are superior beings -
MetalDog wrote:
That is interesting stuff. I do have a whole philosophical book on music and listening and all that stuff that I should dig through at some point, probably covers all this stuff. I reckon you're probably right about accounting for tastes too, to some degree. The thing is that some things are liked for their technical merit as well as interesting melodies and whatnot so perhaps that plays a part too. I know there's some music I hear and marvel at both the music and the technicality of it all.
Heh - bizarre, direct from google was alright. Upshot = men (mostly) activate the left side of the brain associated with language and listening when they hear music. Women activate that same area but (mostly) also activate right side brain areas associated with musical learning and spacial awareness.
I reckon minor variations in individual's brain-lighting-upness* would probably account for our tastes too, if you could track it well enough.
*sorry for all the high-minded jargon there -
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