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  • senso-ji 6 Feb 2013 20:19:09 5,790 posts
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    According to the FIFA (hahah) rankings, they're 18th. Not quite that bad, but they won't trouble Spain or Argentina.
  • kentmonkey 6 Feb 2013 20:25:13 20,439 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    It was a decent save and nothing more.
    The second save was more than decent. That's not easy to do with a big frame and Ronaldinho had all of the momentum running in. It was also incredbly strong to keep that out and he was in position for the third strike as well.

    Penalty save was lucky-to-decent, depending on your viewpoint as to whether there's any skill in saving penalties (which there is but that discussion is likely to end up in boredom quickly), but that second save was worth shouting about due to everything that went into it to make it happen.
  • The-Bodybuilder 6 Feb 2013 20:28:17 14,057 posts
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    ecureuil wrote:
    It was a decent save and nothing more.
    Yeah but could De Gealol do it? :p

    Love the way everyone just did away with any other relevant thread and just stuck to here. Can't we just make this the official football thread?
  • ecureuil 6 Feb 2013 20:30:00 76,489 posts
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    I was talking about the first save, which was described as "incredible" because "he almost dived beyond it." Right-o.

    Decent save. Did very well to get back for the second save but then you could argue that he shouldn't have spilled the first one back in to the centre of the goal.
  • mikew1985 6 Feb 2013 20:31:42 12,588 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    ecureuil wrote:
    It was a decent save and nothing more.
    Yeah but could De Gealol do it? :p

    Love the way everyone just did away with any other relevant thread and just stuck to here. Can't we just make this the official football thread?
    De Gea would be crucified for his inability to push the ball into a better area or around the post, followed with some backhanded compliment about his agility to recover from his mistake.

    Did I do it right?
  • kentmonkey 6 Feb 2013 20:33:31 20,439 posts
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    I don't meant to nitpick but I don't know how anyone could legitimately argue that he shouldn't have spilled it back.

    For a penalty save you have to go the way you believe it is going, and because there's no player momentum/ball bounce/ball momentum to take into account, you can't pre-judge the distance you need to dive. So you also choose a distance.

    Hart went for far corner and pushed off accordingly. The ball didn't make it, so the save was with his hands somewhere near his midrift, with his hands having to go back from an outstretched position to a tucked position. Hence why he couldn't hold it, or push it out towards the post, and why it just went backwards toward the centre of the goal.
  • The-Bodybuilder 6 Feb 2013 20:34:28 14,057 posts
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    mikew1985 wrote:
    Did I do it right?
    Getting better. :p
  • King_Edward 6 Feb 2013 20:35:15 11,454 posts
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    Desperate De Gea apologists are always looking for an angle.
  • kentmonkey 6 Feb 2013 20:38:33 20,439 posts
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    De Gea isn't as bad as he's made out to be though.

    He's a young keeper learning his trade. He's far more advanced than most at his age, and he suffers from poor decision making. He can learn that by learning from mistakes. His mistakes are more high profile because they're for Utd.

    As long as he doesn't allow the mistakes to get him down, and instead decides to use them to analyse his game and improve it, he'll do fine. He's got all the makings and attributes of a great keeper, including his physical size, it's now down to his mentality and whether he can cope with it.

    It can go one of two ways, it's too early to tell, but I'm not one of the 'De Gea is a clown' crowd. If he's doing the same things at 26-27, then yes, but he's hardly started his career yet in goalkeeping terms and it's not his fault he's become the Nos1 at Utd probably 2-3 years before he's absolutely ready for that level.

    (EDIT, early to tell, not easy. Stupid typo).

    Edited by kentmonkey at 20:42:04 06-02-2013
  • ecureuil 6 Feb 2013 20:40:08 76,489 posts
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    kentmonkey wrote:
    I don't meant to nitpick but I don't know how anyone could legitimately argue that he shouldn't have spilled it back.

    For a penalty save you have to go the way you believe it is going, and because there's no player momentum/ball bounce/ball momentum to take into account, you can't pre-judge the distance you need to dive. So you also choose a distance.

    Hart went for far corner and pushed off accordingly. The ball didn't make it, so the save was with his hands somewhere near his midrift, with his hands having to go back from an outstretched position to a tucked position. Hence why he couldn't hold it, or push it out towards the post, and why it just went backwards toward the centre of the goal.
    I agree. My only point was that the save wasn't worthy of the excessive praise lavished upon it. It was nothing spectacular, the first save was basic for any goalkeeper because the penalty was so bad, the second was a good recovery but nothing out of this world.

    And sorry it has nothing to do with De Gea, I get really bored of this England circlejerk every time there's an international. ITV are the worst for it. Hart is just flavour of the month for this, probably because we haven't had a good goalkeeper since Seaman.
  • oceanmotion 6 Feb 2013 20:40:42 15,647 posts
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    Is Ronadildo fat?

    Heard he was playing. Must be quite old now.
  • IMO 6 Feb 2013 20:41:05 5,578 posts
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    Massive striker. Excellent finish.
  • superdelphinus 6 Feb 2013 20:41:47 8,016 posts
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    Bit harsh to blame that second chance 100% on Cahill!
  • King_Edward 6 Feb 2013 20:41:47 11,454 posts
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    Fred seems alright.
  • Deleted user 6 February 2013 20:41:57
    Cahill forgetting he's not playing in a yellow jersey.
  • NotSoSlim 6 Feb 2013 20:44:09 3,116 posts
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    Err i wonder if Rio may just get a recall lol
  • Trowel 6 Feb 2013 20:50:01 17,429 posts
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    Alan Green has spent more time talking about Ginger Spice than the game.
  • Jono62 6 Feb 2013 20:52:07 13,957 posts
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    Nice strike Lamps.
  • King_Edward 6 Feb 2013 20:52:14 11,454 posts
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    That was a fucking tasty finish. I'm getting the feeling Lampard is one of those players tthat'll just never lose it.

    Edited by King_Edward at 20:52:59 06-02-2013
  • bitch_tits_zero_nine 6 Feb 2013 20:52:17 6,654 posts
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    great strike
  • IMO 6 Feb 2013 20:52:23 5,578 posts
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    We're gonna win the World Cup!!!!1!!1
  • ecureuil 6 Feb 2013 20:52:25 76,489 posts
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    Top class finish from Frank. He's had a great season so far.
  • Zizoo 6 Feb 2013 20:54:02 8,107 posts
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    why exactly do Chelsea want rid of Lampard? Honest question.
  • senso-ji 6 Feb 2013 20:54:47 5,790 posts
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    King_Edward wrote:
    That was a fucking tasty finish. I'm getting the feeling Lampard is one of those players tthat'll just never lose it.
    Chelsea management seem to disagree.
  • X201 6 Feb 2013 21:01:26 15,130 posts
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    ZizouFC wrote:
    why exactly do Chelsea want rid of Lampard? Honest question.
    Wages or troublemaker are the only two I can think of, apart from the obvious one of someone at Chelsea being a bit mental.
  • superdelphinus 6 Feb 2013 21:05:24 8,016 posts
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    Wages and also remember we don't see what he's like in training
  • ecureuil 6 Feb 2013 21:07:35 76,489 posts
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    I thought he just didn't fit in to their Mata-Hazard-Oscar masterplan?
  • The-Bodybuilder 6 Feb 2013 22:24:47 14,057 posts
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    And Emperor Roman still has a grudge against him and all the old-school clique for the whole AVB saga. Probably wants to make a point that only he is irreplaceable at Chelsea, and not the players.
  • kentmonkey 6 Feb 2013 22:30:16 20,439 posts
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    Looks like Squillaci and Mertesacker are going to be our defensive partnership in the next game.

    That has surely got to be the slowest defensive partnership in history.

    The centre of our defense is going to have all of the mobility of the Walking Dead.
  • Binny 6 Feb 2013 22:30:55 184 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    Wilshere is too "injury prone" to pass a "medical".
    He's had one bad injury, bit of a bold statement considering.
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