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  • SuperCoolEskimo 29 Nov 2012 17:57:20 9,728 posts
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    Ronaldo scored something like 11 penalties last season in La Liga too.
  • Feanor 29 Nov 2012 17:58:07 14,066 posts
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    Messi winning it all the time is boring.
  • fergal_oc 29 Nov 2012 17:58:29 2,763 posts
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    Kal once again your arguement is ruined when you use the word 'infinite' :p
  • kalel 29 Nov 2012 18:02:39 86,427 posts
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    It is infinite funds. New gas is naturally created all the time. You're owners own the gas. Therefore they have infinite funds.
  • Deleted user 29 November 2012 18:15:47
    Feanor wrote:
    Messi winning it all the time is boring.
    Yeah, give it to Peter Crouch for a laugh :)
  • Deleted user 29 November 2012 18:29:27
    kalel wrote:
    Boab wrote:
    Proven statistically Ronaldo scores more important goals for the team.
    Which also suggests he's more selfish. Combine that with Messi's much higher assist rate, and you could come to the conclusion that Ronaldo holds back his team by not being a team player.

    Good old stats.

    There's also all kinds of stats about how Barca would get relegated without Messi's goals and such.
    Messi assisted 3 more times than Ronaldo in La Liga last season, hardly much higher. And yes Ronaldo is clearly holding back the team.
  • morriss 29 Nov 2012 18:30:15 70,911 posts
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    I prefer Ronaldo to Messi.
  • Orange 29 Nov 2012 18:30:38 4,672 posts
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    Messi > Ronaldo.
  • Deleted user 29 November 2012 18:31:46
    I prefer watching Messi out of the two even being a Real fan. He'd just more classy and less like a robot like Ronaldo.
  • kalel 29 Nov 2012 18:36:34 86,427 posts
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    Boab wrote:
    kalel wrote:
    Boab wrote:
    Proven statistically Ronaldo scores more important goals for the team.
    Which also suggests he's more selfish. Combine that with Messi's much higher assist rate, and you could come to the conclusion that Ronaldo holds back his team by not being a team player.

    Good old stats.

    There's also all kinds of stats about how Barca would get relegated without Messi's goals and such.
    Messi assisted 3 more times than Ronaldo in La Liga last season, hardly much higher. And yes Ronaldo is clearly holding back the team.
    My point being you don't prove anything with stats. You just provide evidence for a view, but that can work both ways.
  • Deleted user 29 November 2012 18:38:09
    Wow.
  • morriss 29 Nov 2012 18:39:44 70,911 posts
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    Ronaldo is infinitely better looking. Statistically.
  • King_Edward 29 Nov 2012 18:40:04 11,454 posts
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    Feanor wrote:
    Messi winning it all the time is boring.
    That much is true. They should give it to Ronaldo, but give Messi a one off, bigger "You're clearly much better than everyone else, and will be for the foreseeable future, now stop showing off" trophy.
  • thedaveeyres 29 Nov 2012 18:58:33 10,711 posts
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    Ronaldo looks like a rich old queen's twink. Messi looks like a ferret in a Beatles wig.

    D****** ******r

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  • Shikasama 29 Nov 2012 19:25:08 6,637 posts
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    Hah, Dempsey claims he left Fulham because he didn't feel appreciated.

    Phase 1 of Dempseys plan: Leave the club that provided you with the opportunity to forge a reputation as an excellent footballer, beloved by managers and fans and then ask for a move.

    Phase 2: Use said reputation to engineer a move to a club that can pay higher wages then forget how to play football.

    Se how 'appreciated' he is by Spurs fans if his performances stay at the level they have been.
  • Dougs 29 Nov 2012 19:38:48 66,748 posts
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    I thought he'd been decent for Spurs?
  • Deleted user 29 November 2012 19:39:37
    @Shikasama - far be it for me to pick fault, but that does a rather obvious anti-Spurs troll. Albeit not without merit I might add.

    I don't consider his reasons 'mercenary', it's just the way PL footie works, isn't it?
  • Deleted user 29 November 2012 19:40:42
    While we're on the topic of Spurs, Danny Rose is a defender, no?

    edit: nvmd, checked the Spurs website he's a midfielder apparently. Was just surprised to see him line up just behind Ade in final of FA Cup in PES.

    Carry on.

    Edited by Ironlungs76 at 19:45:46 29-11-2012
  • Shikasama 29 Nov 2012 19:53:15 6,637 posts
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    Whenever I';ve watched him play he has looked rather disinterested and contributed almost nothing to the team, him and Gylfi both.
  • faux_carnation 29 Nov 2012 20:31:42 9,091 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    Whenever I';ve watched him play he has looked rather disinterested and contributed almost nothing to the team, him and Gylfi both.
    That's because they're both recovering from the trauma of not moving to Liverpool

    Boatmurdered FC

  • mikeck 30 Nov 2012 08:53:56 1,905 posts
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    Re: Messi and Ronaldo.

    For me it's got to be Messi all the way, any player who repeatedly doesn't dive when other players usually would (not directed at Ronaldo btw) and then go on to do everything here is a master in my opinion.

    Wish Bale would adjust his attitude and play on instead of going to ground, would make me much happier when watching him.

    Edited by mikeck at 08:54:17 30-11-2012
  • morriss 30 Nov 2012 09:05:01 70,911 posts
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    It was a foul last Wednesday, not a dive. But still, he's a diver and karma etc.

    Most fans wish he wouldn't do it.
  • mikeck 30 Nov 2012 09:18:56 1,905 posts
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    @morriss I actually wasn't thinking of the other night specifically, I concur it was a foul. The problem is he's becoming tarnished in ref's eyes so will now start to pick up these unwarranted bookings.

    It just bothers me because if he tried to retain the ball, like Messi does so well in that video above, he could create more for us.
  • HisDudness 30 Nov 2012 09:33:44 957 posts
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    thedaveeyres wrote:
    Ronaldo looks like a rich old queen's twink. Messi looks like a ferret in a Beatles wig.
    Great imagery there.
  • nickthegun 30 Nov 2012 09:58:58 58,934 posts
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    Its crazy that these messi/ronaldo debates only occur because they are so much better than everyone else it seems unfair.

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    He totally called it

  • LeoliansBro 30 Nov 2012 10:04:23 43,306 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    It is infinite funds. New gas is naturally created all the time. Your owners own the gas. Therefore they have infinite funds.

    Erm...

    By this rationale, every garden centre has infinite funds and every farmer is infinitely wealthy.

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • Stickman 30 Nov 2012 10:08:41 29,664 posts
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    If there was only twenty farmers in the world they'd not be short of a bob or two.

    THIS SPACE FOR RENT

  • kalel 30 Nov 2012 10:22:32 86,427 posts
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    Yes. If those farmers had a monopoly in farming, thy would have infinite wealth.
  • LeoliansBro 30 Nov 2012 10:24:24 43,306 posts
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    Why do they need to have a monopoly? 20 farmers sharing infinite wealth is the same as a million farmers sharing infinite wealth, because there is an infinite amount of it. They are all infinitely wealthy.

    /may have drifted off football

    LB, you really are a massive geek.

  • kalel 30 Nov 2012 10:28:19 86,427 posts
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    I have infinite air, but I'd need a monopoly on air to convert that into infinite money.
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