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  • TheSaint 25 Aug 2014 23:16:57 14,698 posts
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    That City attack could put double figures past QPR.
  • bottlecaps 25 Aug 2014 23:30:44 205 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    That City attack could put double figures past Man U.
    Fixed.
  • PazJohnMitch 25 Aug 2014 23:39:11 8,602 posts
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    Quite.

    United look far weaker than Liverpool.
  • PazJohnMitch 25 Aug 2014 23:41:04 8,602 posts
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    Di Maria has a massive 22% cross success rate. I suspect Nani has a better cross success than that?
  • Shikasama 25 Aug 2014 23:48:42 7,069 posts
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    People shouldn't start trying to convince themselves that Di Maria is a bad player because he isnt, he's superb. The problem is that he's somewhat of a rather pointless signing given the state of Man Utd squad
  • bottlecaps 25 Aug 2014 23:52:45 205 posts
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    Shikasama wrote:
    People shouldn't start trying to convince themselves that Di Maria is a bad player because he isnt, he's superb. The problem is that he's somewhat of a rather pointless signing given the state of Man Utd squad
    Very insightful, thank you.
  • FWB 26 Aug 2014 00:01:36 45,112 posts
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    Bit of a weird comment to say he his pointless. He will improve the team. The issue is that they need to buy more, but that shouldn't slate the Maria deal.
  • jablonski 26 Aug 2014 00:10:28 4,501 posts
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    ElNino9 wrote:
    L'equipe saying Giroud has a broken foot, looking at 3 months out.

    Ouch.
    What? Fucks sake.
    He actually managed to not be shit for a couple of minutes at the weekend too.
  • Orange 26 Aug 2014 00:13:02 4,859 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    Di Maria has a massive 22% cross success rate. I suspect Nani has a better cross success than that?
    He's not a great winger, but playing infield like last season and as he does for Argentina he's very good.
  • reddevil93 26 Aug 2014 02:38:25 11,936 posts
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    PazJohnMitch wrote:
    Di Maria has a massive 22% cross success rate. I suspect Nani has a better cross success than that?
    That's actually average or slightly above average cross success rate in the Premier League. But hey, don't let that stop you from running with the lowest stat you see on a Skysports info graphic as a way to judge a player.

  • Dougs 26 Aug 2014 06:36:57 69,012 posts
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    ElNino9 wrote:
    L'equipe saying Giroud has a broken foot, looking at 3 months out.

    Ouch.
    Christ. How the fuck did he get a touch of the van Persie's? The ball was kicked at his standing foot ffs! (I think, I was a bit pissed). Poldi transfer off at the least and an attempt to find this year's Demba Ba on loan it is then.
  • robc84 26 Aug 2014 07:06:37 5,951 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    Wow we're stooping to squabbling about 300k of a transfer fee now?


    Otherwise known as 1 weeks pay for captain fat scouser.
    Heh. No.

    I was pointing out that people were saying 75m not 75m. Which worked out to be about what he was quoting.

    Anyway, I think most are in agreement it's a quality signing, as long as it is followed up by defensive re-enforcements.
  • PES_Fanboy 26 Aug 2014 07:56:41 18,253 posts
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    Imagine being Di Maria right now. No pressure, but you're here to 'fix' everything in this billion pound organisation
  • President_Weasel 26 Aug 2014 08:54:06 9,576 posts
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    Surely there's better ways to spend the money though. 75 million euros should easily be able to get a really good central midfielder and an accomplished wing back, if Van Gaal still fancies the system, or a top class centre back? Throwing all the money at Arturo Vidal would be a better structural fix for the team.

    This smacks of pre-Ashley Newcastle, back when they regularly bought washed up stars from big teams to show their fans what a big club they were. I'm not saying Di Maria is washed up; what I'm saying is it doesn't seem to make much sense except in a "look at us spending money! We're still a big team! Buy some merchandise and subscribe to our tv channel! Wait, where are you going? Come back, come baaaaack!" kind of a way.
  • kalel 26 Aug 2014 11:55:37 89,142 posts
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    There's no one individual player that will solve all of Man U's issues. Someone like Vidal might have been a better all-round fix but Di Maria is absolutely the kind of player they have a need for, and makes total sense.
  • Tom_Servo 26 Aug 2014 11:57:20 18,079 posts
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    Benatia to Bayern done apparently, 19m
  • thedaveeyres 26 Aug 2014 12:00:25 11,426 posts
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    I think Man U have bought well. You've only got so many fingers to stick in the dam. I still fancy they'll take 4th.

    Also, the above analogy is LvG Approved.

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  • Tom_Servo 26 Aug 2014 12:07:07 18,079 posts
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    What's this about Rojo having an outstanding warrant or something in Argentina?!
  • kalel 26 Aug 2014 12:10:07 89,142 posts
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    Dunno.

    Re: Everton getting Eto'o, I doubt he has taken a pay cut as is being touted. I suspect his wages have been weighed up against the fact that it's a free transfer. For a short period of time it's probably deemed worth it. We did a similar thing with Davids way back.

    I don't really see why he would take a pay cut. He would quite happily go and play in Quatar or wherever I'm sure. His move to Anzhi at a much stronger point in his career shows what's important to him.
  • Tom_Servo 26 Aug 2014 12:10:53 18,079 posts
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    Cheers
  • faux-C 26 Aug 2014 12:21:57 9,516 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    There's no one individual player that will solve all of Man U's issues. Someone like Vidal might have been a better all-round fix but Di Maria is absolutely the kind of player they have a need for, and makes total sense.
    They've now spent a combined 90m(ish) on two players in Mata and Di Maria who play not dissimilar roles on the pitch. Unless they're planning to convert Di Maria to a centre-mid to play alongside Herrera (in which case, why not just buy a centre-mid?), I don't see how it "makes total sense".
  • kalel 26 Aug 2014 12:28:02 89,142 posts
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    Di Maria is a pacey wide player. Mata is creative central player. He's more like Rooney than Di Maria.

    I've never really understood why United bought Mata. I think that was the desperation move. They had that role well covered with Rooney and Kagawa. Di Maria is the player to finally replace Ronaldo, as Young is wank and Valencia seems to be well on the way to becoming wank.
  • faux-C 26 Aug 2014 12:43:04 9,516 posts
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  • faux-C 26 Aug 2014 12:43:04 9,516 posts
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    So he's going to play as a wing-back then? Where does that leave Luke Shaw?

    Meh. Regardless of where he fits, he's overpriced and never wanted to go to Utd in the first place, so the potential for failure is pretty huge. We'll see I guess.
  • kalel 26 Aug 2014 12:46:02 89,142 posts
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    No, I think he'll play in a front three with RVP and Januzaj. Rooney (or Mata or Kagawa) will play just behind in the front of a central three. Shaw will play in the back four.

    This is all assuming he wants to play 4-3-3, which he generally does.

    Edited by kalel at 12:46:49 26-08-2014
  • kalel 26 Aug 2014 12:48:44 89,142 posts
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    Heh, "potential for failure is pretty huge". Yes it's just awful when world class managers manage to sign world class players. It's always a disaster.
  • faux-C 26 Aug 2014 12:53:36 9,516 posts
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    If you have limited funds, (which everyone apart from City and Chelsea do) spending 60m on one player is a huge risk, regardless of whether they're "world class" or not.

    There's a good analysis of the transfer on the Game podcast this week if anyone's interested.
  • kalel 26 Aug 2014 12:56:31 89,142 posts
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    United only really have limited funds in the sense that the Glazers would prefer to spend as little as possible. There's no actual risk to the club in spending that kind of money. Certainly not a "huge" one.

    We all want this to be a huge disaster naturally but I'm finding it very hard to paint signing a player that good as not making sense or a dangerously risky move. It's clearly neither.
  • FWB 26 Aug 2014 13:10:03 45,112 posts
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    If he never wanted to go to Utd, he wouldn't be.
  • kalel 26 Aug 2014 13:15:38 89,142 posts
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    Sounds like we've signed Seville/Argentine CB Federico Fazio, and Dawson has signed for Hull.
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