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  • Tom_Servo 26 Oct 2013 23:35:19 17,330 posts
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    JiveHound wrote:
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    The goals conceded stat for Southampton is astonishing.
    I think it was 23 conceded in 9 games last season!
    26 (or 23) in 10 last season versus 3 in 10 this season, I think it was. Woof.
  • JiveHound 26 Oct 2013 23:37:37 2,346 posts
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    RedSparrows wrote:
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    Mauricio! Learn some Ingles papi! Speedy Gonzales even had it, and he was a mexican rat for fuck sake.
    You think he can't speak any English? I like to think of it as a nice pre-emptive 'fuck you' to the press.
    Apparently his English is actually pretty good. Just not confident yet to do the media thing.

    I prefer your take though.

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  • JiveHound 26 Oct 2013 23:39:09 2,346 posts
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    Tom_Servo wrote:
    JiveHound wrote:
    Tom_Servo wrote:
    The goals conceded stat for Southampton is astonishing.
    I think it was 23 conceded in 9 games last season!
    26 (or 23) in 10 last season versus 3 in 10 this season, I think it was. Woof.
    Arsenal coming up. That will test the defense. Then again theirs is pretty ropey by all accounts so who knows?

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  • President_Weasel 26 Oct 2013 23:48:44 8,984 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    I think I hate Alan Hansen, and ic never felt that way for anyone.

    How ca he say "never ever" on even the remote possibility that we can win the league? Then goes all te way to 2010 and villa a few months back as example of why our defending will never improve?

    Really want us to win it this season especially, as it's his last. Really want to see his smug face admit he was wrong before fucking off into obscurity.
    Ah come on, he's already had his "won't win anything with kids" moment.
  • The-Bodybuilder 27 Oct 2013 00:14:33 14,080 posts
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    President_Weasel wrote:
    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    I think I hate Alan Hansen, and ic never felt that way for anyone.

    How ca he say "never ever" on even the remote possibility that we can win the league? Then goes all te way to 2010 and villa a few months back as example of why our defending will never improve?

    Really want us to win it this season especially, as it's his last. Really want to see his smug face admit he was wrong before fucking off into obscurity.
    Ah come on, he's already had his "won't win anything with kids" moment.
    Yeah but even that had some kind of logic.
    We're not even a team of kids anymore, but his argument is intangible and just consists of "because they're arsenal".

    Just want him to go away whilst being humbled.
    Mind you I hope he doesn't get replaced by Savage, unless it's the Macho Man variety.
  • RichieTenenbaum 27 Oct 2013 00:20:29 2,181 posts
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    On the other hand I DO think Arsenal are a bit too lightweight to win the league.
  • The-Bodybuilder 27 Oct 2013 00:50:05 14,080 posts
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    Well at least you have logical and rational reason.
  • graysonavich 27 Oct 2013 01:10:37 7,309 posts
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    President_Weasel wrote:
    Ah come on, he's already had his "won't win anything with kids" moment
    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    Yeah but even that had some kind of logic.
    We're not even a team of kids anymore, but his argument is intangible and just consists of "because they're arsenal".
    heh. swoooosh.
  • nickthegun 27 Oct 2013 07:25:22 58,907 posts
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    Its wonderful to see old trafford celebrating a late winner against stoke like they have just won the champions league.

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    He totally called it

  • robc84 27 Oct 2013 07:26:18 5,343 posts
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    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    I think I hate Alan Hansen, and ic never felt that way for anyone.

    How ca he say "never ever" on even the remote possibility that we can win the league? Then goes all te way to 2010 and villa a few months back as example of why our defending will never improve?

    Really want us to win it this season especially, as it's his last. Really want to see his smug face admit he was wrong before fucking off into obscurity.
    He was in particularly fine form last night.

    I liked his patronising looks at savage when he made the reasonable point that sturridge and suarez were currently a better partnership than rooney and rvp. And yes arsenal are not favs for the title but they are top and you have to say they are in with a chance.
  • THFourteen 27 Oct 2013 08:53:28 32,884 posts
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    Well he's probably right. We haven't played any tough games part from spurs at home. If we are top by Christmas then maybe, but it's unlikely.

    We will know more in two weeks time at the least.

    iirc our record against the top teams the last few years has been poor.
  • robc84 27 Oct 2013 08:58:17 5,343 posts
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    True. But to rule you out completely at this stage is just stupid. You cant really rule out any of the top teams at this point.
  • THFourteen 27 Oct 2013 09:01:52 32,884 posts
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    I can rule out Southampton, Everton and Liverpool
  • Orange 27 Oct 2013 09:02:22 4,671 posts
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    Depends on January window.
  • mcmonkeyplc 27 Oct 2013 09:11:52 39,387 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Its wonderful to see old trafford celebrating a late winner against stoke like they have just won the champions league.
    It is isn't it. Such joy in the face of mediocrity. It takes time to adapt to mediocrity.

    Come and get it cumslingers!

  • robc84 27 Oct 2013 09:23:42 5,343 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    I can rule out Southampton, Everton and Liverpool
    What I mean is the traditional top teams. Arsenal, chelsea, city. Possibly even liverpool spurs and utd to be in the mix too.
  • THFourteen 27 Oct 2013 09:51:55 32,884 posts
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    mcmonkeyplc wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    Its wonderful to see old trafford celebrating a late winner against stoke like they have just won the champions league.
    It is isn't it. Such joy in the face of mediocrity. It takes time to adapt to mediocrity.
    About 8 years IIRC
  • President_Weasel 27 Oct 2013 10:23:58 8,984 posts
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    robc84 wrote:
    The-Bodybuilder wrote:
    I think I hate Alan Hansen, and ic never felt that way for anyone.

    How ca he say "never ever" on even the remote possibility that we can win the league? Then goes all te way to 2010 and villa a few months back as example of why our defending will never improve?

    Really want us to win it this season especially, as it's his last. Really want to see his smug face admit he was wrong before fucking off into obscurity.
    He was in particularly fine form last night.

    I liked his patronising looks at savage when he made the reasonable point that sturridge and suarez were currently a better partnership than rooney and rvp. And yes arsenal are not favs for the title but they are top and you have to say they are in with a chance.
    They are probably still a bit lightweight to win the title, I agree with whoever said that a couple of posts up. Their defence is still a bit suspect (I don't know about "never improve" but I'd say Wenger ought to buy a really good defender). They don't really have strength in depth, although it must be said they managed fine without Wilshere and Cazorla. They haven't had to play in a mudbath in a February sleet storm yet, and the demands of a long season are yet to take their toll.
    They're probably not going to win the league - but "probably not" is already a massive improvement from last year.

    And it's self evident that Suarez and Sturridge are a better partnership than Rooney and RVP at the moment - one pair is banging in goals and working together, and the other is playing like they met about 20 minutes ago. Whether the individual components are objectively better players is an entirely different question.

    Edited by President_Weasel at 10:30:46 27-10-2013
  • RedSparrows 27 Oct 2013 10:41:05 22,085 posts
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    arials101 wrote:
    Whoever was doing the MOTD commentary for the Liverpool match kept getting confused between Cissokho and Sakho. Managed to convince himself that Sakho was making a marauding run down the left flank early on in the match.
    Yeah, I watched that thinking 'Sakho is running on a bit ain't he?!' Then realised it was Cissokho.

    Edited by RedSparrows at 10:41:20 27-10-2013
  • PazJohnMitch 27 Oct 2013 12:27:38 7,834 posts
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    In my opinion RVP is a better player than Suarez but Sturridge is better than Rooney.

    And Sturridge is the key factor as he is just as happy setting up goals as scoring them. I think you would be hard pressed to find a striker that would not want to be partnered with Sturridge. (Well apart from Torres).
  • THFourteen 27 Oct 2013 12:55:54 32,884 posts
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    IMO sturridge is a greedy fucker. He's very Defoey

    Edited by THFourteen at 12:56:12 27-10-2013
  • robc84 27 Oct 2013 13:00:50 5,343 posts
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    Rvp>suarez>rooney>sturridge imo. When all on top form that is.

    But this season sturridge and suarez look far more dangerous. Could all change as the season progresses of course.
  • JiveHound 27 Oct 2013 13:24:43 2,346 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    I can rule out Southampton, Everton and Liverpool
    I'd definitely rule out Saints. Would be marvellous though.

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  • TheMayorOfJugs 27 Oct 2013 13:29:18 3,133 posts
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    Is Spurs and Hull on telly anywhere gents? Doesn't seem like Bt, Espn or Setanta have it.
  • mikew1985 27 Oct 2013 13:30:24 12,612 posts
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    No, should be able to get it on the other usual outlets.
  • Deckard1 27 Oct 2013 13:35:34 27,265 posts
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    Uh oh
  • LionheartDJH 27 Oct 2013 13:35:35 19,359 posts
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    Newcastlol

    She dives for cheese pasties

  • spindle9988 27 Oct 2013 13:36:16 3,504 posts
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    Sturridge and Suarez look like a much happier partnership than Rooney and RVP, which is a big component in my opinion. Sturridge has always been viewed as a bit greedy but his vision has improved ten fold this season
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