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  • eviltwin 2 Aug 2006 08:06:37 408 posts
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    Ditto on Misery, although you could ditch King and go and read Barker's Imajica or Weaveworld or The Great and Secret Show.
  • Kay 2 Aug 2006 09:20:08 17,760 posts
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    I'm actually going through the Dark Tower series at the moment. I'm on the third book now, The Waste Lands, reading every day on the tube. I loved the first two books, and thoroughly enjoying this one so far.

    Also, no-one has mentioned 'Everything's Eventual', a collection of short stories including one about Roland himself. I thought it was an excellent book, and it's what got me into Stephen King (and the Dark Tower series).

    K
  • matrim83 2 Aug 2006 09:25:38 5,587 posts
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    The dark tower is pretty good up until Wizard and glass but it goes downhill from Song of Sussanah.

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  • Ecanem 2 Aug 2006 09:28:31 5,035 posts
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    I just started on the last book of the Dark Tower.. to be honest I'm a bit tired of it, but I want to know how it ends now, more than anything..

    Best book in that series must have been the Wolves thingy..

    I've read a lot of Stephen King books, and the best book of his is undoubtedly "On Writing".. =)
  • Universal_Hamster 2 Aug 2006 09:36:34 4,948 posts
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    Misery is the first King book I ever read, and I cant reccomend it enough. Its Awe-tastic.
    Needful Things could be my favorite though. Its quite a big book, but the sheer volume of great characters, and the way they influence each others stories is genuis. Also Mr Gaunt is superbly evil.
    The Dark Tower series is really beyond brilliance too. Its like The good, the bad & the ugly meets lord of the rings.

    Great things about King:
    Character, setting, constant page-turning compulsion, huge amounts of tension, hideous gore, can be very funny when needed.

    Things that annoy me about King:
    Sometimes not so great with the dialog, characters always going off into gales of laughter over things that arent that funny, and finally, in most cases, the complete inability to write a good ending. There are so many books of his that are superb, (Shining, the stand, IT, etc) but completely fizzle out at the end.
  • TwistidChimp 2 Aug 2006 10:05:48 8,825 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    I'm actually going through the Dark Tower series at the moment. I'm on the third book now, The Waste Lands, reading every day on the tube. I loved the first two books, and thoroughly enjoying this one so far.

    I am also currently reading the Waste Lands on the train to and from work..

    /whistles twilight zone theme

    I would also recommend Different Seasons, I also really enjoy his short stories, Nightmares & Dreamscapes is a great little collection.

    The Dark Tower series is proving very good so far so. I'd recommend you pick up atleast the first couple of books in the series since the first book, The Gun Slinger, is pretty short. Book 2, the Drawing of the Three was absolutley aces though.
  • prettyvacant 2 Aug 2006 10:06:10 115 posts
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    I'm just picking up the dark tower books again after several years gap from reading the third one but I keep seeing mixed opinions about the latter few books , are they worth reading or should I skip to the last one just to get the ending ?

    I see no ones mentioned the talisman , I think it was co-written with Peter Straub , but also one of his better books I think.
  • Blerk Moderator 2 Aug 2006 10:11:21 48,225 posts
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    I just finished Song of Susannah over the weekend - very good, but no Wolves of the Calla. Picked up the final Dark Tower in the supermarket last night, so... final stretch. Sniff. I'll be a bit sorry to see the back of them after all this time, tbh. Oy!

    Edited by Blerk at 10:11:25 02-08-2006
  • Ecanem 2 Aug 2006 10:12:55 5,035 posts
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    Erk!
  • repairmanjack 2 Aug 2006 10:13:35 5,987 posts
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    If you have any interest in King at all you really should read his early short story collection "Night Shift". I read it many years ago, and can recall many of the tales vividly. It's the author at the peak of his powers.

    Also recommend It, Misery, The Shining, Salem's Lot. His later work has been a bit patchy, to be honest. Desperation onwards there's a real issue with quality control. "On Writing" is well worth a look for anyone who dabbles themselves.
  • Bertie Senior Staff Writer, Eurogamer.net 2 Aug 2006 10:27:49 1,751 posts
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    I've read The Dark Tower series 'cause a friend recommended them to me, and enjoyed them lots 'n lots.

    /adds practically nothing to the discussion
  • Universal_Hamster 2 Aug 2006 10:38:23 4,948 posts
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    The Dark Tower isnt really the sort of series you can skip installments of. I thought "Wolves of the Calla" was the weakest book in the series, but it still has some absolutely essential plot elements you need to know.
    My quick quality guide:

    Gunslinger - A couple of great bits, but not brilliant.

    Drawing of the Three - SUPERB, my favorite in the series, shedloads of action, drama, tension, and very damn funny in places too.

    Wastelands - Also superb, a great follow-on from book 2

    Wizard and Glass - Still on top form, the book may be mostly backstory, but its a compelling one.

    Wolves of the Calla - Bit of a sliip-up here, but he did write it while recovering from his accident, so I'll let that slide.
    Song of Suzannah - Back to form, totally loved this one.
    Dark Tower - Just as great, very powerful stuff this.

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  • Blerk Moderator 2 Aug 2006 10:40:27 48,225 posts
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    I almost don't want to read the last book. Because then it would be over! Sob.
  • Kay 2 Aug 2006 10:46:07 17,760 posts
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    The Drawing of the Three was indeed excellent, Loved the part where he enters Jack Mort and the way he 'acquires' the ammunition at the gun shop.

    And if you're sad about it being over - try reading the short story about Roland in Everything's Eventual as I mentioned before. It's sort of like a mini-adventure set before the Dark Tower books, I think.

    K

    Edited by Kay at 10:46:35 02-08-2006
  • Messiac 2 Aug 2006 10:46:26 3,465 posts
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    repairmanjack wrote:
    If you have any interest in King at all you really should read his early short story collection "Night Shift". I read it many years ago, and can recall many of the tales vividly. It's the author at the peak of his powers.

    Also recommend It, Misery, The Shining, Salem's Lot. His later work has been a bit patchy, to be honest. Desperation onwards there's a real issue with quality control. "On Writing" is well worth a look for anyone who dabbles themselves.

    Thats pretty much how I feel as well - I really enjoyed his earlier stuff - IT, Misery and Salems Lot is one of my favourite books of all time. His later stuff doesnt compare to his early genius in my opinion. I have dabbled in The Dark Tower but it just seems really badly edited if not indulgent on his part.

    Apart from Salems Lot a tad over rated as a writer for me as well.

  • Blerk Moderator 2 Aug 2006 10:52:54 48,225 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    And if you're sad about it being over - try reading the short story about Roland in Everything's Eventual as I mentioned before. It's sort of like a mini-adventure set before the Dark Tower books, I think.
    I didn't know about that until you mentioned it. I just picked up a copy from eBay for 99pee. :-)
  • Fonzie 2 Aug 2006 10:59:22 1,805 posts
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    Insomnia is my favourite along with The Stand. Rose Madder is also a good read.
  • Genji 2 Aug 2006 11:02:40 19,691 posts
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    Wolves of the Calla is a ripoff of the Seven Samurai, which is probably why I like it the most of the later books. I think they even comment on its derivative-ness in the book itself.

    Very postmodern, that.
  • Blerk Moderator 2 Aug 2006 11:07:36 48,225 posts
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    Genji wrote:
    Wolves of the Calla is a ripoff of the Seven Samurai, which is probably why I like it the most of the later books. I think they even comment on its derivative-ness in the book itself.

    Very postmodern, that.
    They do point out the similarities, but not until Song of Susannah. :-)
  • Genji 2 Aug 2006 11:10:45 19,691 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Genji wrote:
    Wolves of the Calla is a ripoff of the Seven Samurai, which is probably why I like it the most of the later books. I think they even comment on its derivative-ness in the book itself.

    Very postmodern, that.
    They do point out the similarities, but not until Song of Susannah. :-)
    Ah. It's been a while since I read it.

    Anyway, by the time of Song of Susannah, King had his head so far up his arse, I just lost interest.

    The ending was pretty cool, though. Fitting, considering all of the Western references in the series.
  • boo 2 Aug 2006 11:24:53 11,703 posts
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    I'll second the Talisman - good book.

    Also, The Dead Zone. One of the few books I've read where I thought the film version was actually not bad.

    Big thumb's up too, for 'It' (poor ending though), Christine, the collections: Different Seasons, Skeleton Crew and Night Shift.

    Firestarter was a decent film - no idea what the book's like though.

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  • Blerk Moderator 2 Aug 2006 11:36:39 48,225 posts
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    King's books are generally ten times what the films were, except Misery for some reason. I never really got on with the book, but enjoyed the film. Go figure. :-)

    The Shining, for instance, is heralded as a masterpiece of horror cinema, but it's actually pretty cack once you've read the proper story. See the film first.
  • repairmanjack 2 Aug 2006 11:38:59 5,987 posts
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    Well, if we're getting into films, Misery and The Dead Zone are two of my favourite movies.
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    Don't bother with Cell. It's utter trash.
  • Genji 2 Aug 2006 11:42:51 19,691 posts
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    Pfft, Kubrick made the Shining way better than the book. So much that King just got jealous.

    The Shining mini-series... now that was cack, and it stuck to the book like glue.
  • Kay 2 Aug 2006 11:43:40 17,760 posts
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    I've had Dreamcatcher on DVD for ages, haven't seen it yet though. I'd never heard of the book and film before as well.

    K
  • Blerk Moderator 2 Aug 2006 11:43:54 48,225 posts
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    Genji wrote:
    Pfft, Kubrick made the Shining way better than the book. So much that King just got jealous.
    *cough*

    My arse it was! Half the book's missing, half the story's different and the ending is shite. :-)
  • Blerk Moderator 2 Aug 2006 11:44:24 48,225 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    I've had Dreamcatcher on DVD for ages, haven't seen it yet though. I'd never heard of the book and film before as well.
    K
    Dreamcatcher the movie is a bit... er... pap. I've not read the book.
  • Genji 2 Aug 2006 11:44:55 19,691 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    Half the book's missing, half the story's different...
    Maybe that was why I liked it. :-D
  • Universal_Hamster 2 Aug 2006 11:48:55 4,948 posts
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    No, the ending to the book version of the shining is terrible. Really terrible. Superb book otherwise.
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