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  • valli 28 Dec 2010 21:24:00 14,042 posts
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    So it's basically a modern rangefinder. Closeups will be messed up by the parallax and so will focusing, especially at the rather shallow f/2 setting. With some modern computerized wizardry they could technically figure out the distance to the subject and adjust the guiding lines in the LCD projection to match how the picture will turn out.

    It's very neat but TBH I'd prefer the "live view" high res display on the back.
  • AaronTurner 28 Dec 2010 21:33:05 6,874 posts
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    I don't get the love, why not just buy a m4/3rds camera with the Panasonic 20mm lens?
  • Nth 28 Dec 2010 22:05:35 3,026 posts
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    I think the aesthetics are getting people all stiff. Unless IQ is stellar it does seem very expensive.
  • valli 28 Dec 2010 23:38:02 14,042 posts
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    Aaron, this one has a bigger sensor than the m4/3 cameras, same APS-C size used in most DSLRs. The image quality, especially at higher ISO, is very noticeable.
  • AaronTurner 28 Dec 2010 23:41:26 6,874 posts
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    I don't think it's that noticeable, I own a m43 camera and I'm very happy with it after using a 400D, 40D, 7D and 5D. The only one that really blows it out the water is the 5D. I dunno, it seems incredibly over priced for what it is.
  • valli 11 Jan 2011 09:16:33 14,042 posts
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    More insight from CES:
    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1020&thread=37364679

    Seems I was right and wrong: the optical viewfinder gives a 0,5x magnification with live lines showing you the parallax. There's also a very neat live historigram projected inside the finder.

    Price is still being speculated although it seems it'll be 1000-1200 USD. Leather case not included! :)
  • smoothpete 11 Jan 2011 09:19:12 29,135 posts
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    WANT.
  • valli 11 Jan 2011 10:53:32 14,042 posts
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    mmmhmm...
  • kalel 11 Jan 2011 10:58:26 76,439 posts
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    So lovely, but if I bought one I'd be constantly bothered by the fact that I could have had an X1 for the same price .
  • Nth 11 Jan 2011 11:11:50 3,026 posts
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    kalel wrote:
    So lovely, but if I bought one I'd be constantly bothered by the fact that I could have had an X1 for the same price .
    This will be about £300 cheaper than the X1 no? X1 has abysmal screen too (then so does the M9).
  • kalel 11 Jan 2011 11:22:03 76,439 posts
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    Oh, I didn’t notice the above price was USD.

    Still the same kind of price range though, but I guess enough of a saving to swing it.
  • beachedvinyl 11 Jan 2011 12:35:39 303 posts
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    smoothpete wrote:
    WANT.
    ditto
  • ram 11 Jan 2011 12:36:56 3,422 posts
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    I do WANT but it will probably be WONT due to the unseemly price.
  • Nth 25 Jan 2011 10:14:03 3,026 posts
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    New preview here on DP Review
  • crisotunity 25 Jan 2011 10:28:59 135 posts
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    It does look yummy and makes total sense for someone aiming for a slightly-better than GF2 quality camera in a small package. I agree that the m43 vs DSLR debate is mostly nonsense IQ-wise, but the X100 comes with an excellent viewfinder and a very nice little (fixed) lens so it could be the perfect value/features compromise for some people.
  • valli 25 Jan 2011 14:10:06 14,042 posts
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    Sounds like a fantastic piece of equipment indeed. However, for some reason they've forgotten to add manual focusing aids. Given the x0,5 magnification of the optical viewfinder, it will be very hard to find perfect focus at f/2. Fuji can probably make good AF systems so hopefully it won't be a problem going AF, even if it's nice to be able to fall back to manual when the situation requires it.

    They could have added an old school ground glass focusing screen like the cameras used to have way back.
  • Nth 8 Feb 2011 09:47:32 3,026 posts
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    £999
  • Nth 8 Feb 2011 12:08:08 3,026 posts
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    Sample images

    Pictures of cats ffs. Understand their target market well then.
  • crisotunity 8 Feb 2011 15:19:51 135 posts
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    Good Lord x 2

    - 1000 Euros?! I understand that it's a niche product and not comparable to anything else, but c'mon. I'm betting you'll be able to grab one for 750 Euros before Christmas.
    - As for their sample images... at least Idiot Toys will have an easy target to mock for a day.

    The camera's "yumminess" has been reduced greatly ;-)
  • Nth 8 Feb 2011 15:23:26 3,026 posts
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    To be fair the Leica X1 is even more insanely priced and has a dire screen amongst other issues.
  • valli 8 Feb 2011 16:01:50 14,042 posts
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    It's a very niched product and it clearly goes after the X1, thus the price. I'm not surprised but I think I'll look elsewhere for a good DSLR backup camera.

    (unless the price goes down a bit and lens quality proves to be amazing)
  • mal 8 Feb 2011 16:04:48 20,480 posts
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    Nth wrote:
    £999
    "While the camera carries a suggested retail price of £999, a spokesman for Fujifilm UK tells BJP that the X100 should be available from £899"

    WTF?

    £899 is less than I was expecting. Still a lot of money, but less lots than I was braced for.

    Bokeh looks good. Not sure I'm a big fan of its JPEG colour reproduction, but that may just be down to their choice of shots. Lens looks nice and sharp in at least two corners (others are probably out of focus in the sample I looked at, but it's hard to tell). Bit of purple fringing in corner highlights, but elsewhere it's very nicely controlled. Looks like it's going to give the X1 a good run for its money.

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  • Nth 8 Feb 2011 16:07:37 3,026 posts
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    Never mind that, it takes pictures of CATS
  • mal 8 Feb 2011 16:24:38 20,480 posts
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    Cats \o/

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  • valli 8 Feb 2011 22:49:06 14,042 posts
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    CATS!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1vpB6h3ek4
  • valli 19 Feb 2011 15:44:45 14,042 posts
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    X100 in-detail preview/hands-on with lots of details pictured:

    http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Fujifilm-FinePix-X100-First-Impressions-Review.htm
  • Lukus 21 Feb 2011 14:38:05 18,694 posts
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    valli wrote:
    X100 in-detail preview/hands-on with lots of details pictured:

    http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Fujifilm-FinePix-X100-First-Impressions-Review.htm
    They sound incredibly enthusiastic about it, but I'm waiting to read some proper reviews of images taken with the camera.
    It sounds ideal to me so far, other than the price. I'd secretly like a zoom too, but I understand the compromise.

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  • mal 21 Feb 2011 14:57:35 20,480 posts
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    Yeah, it might be a detailed preview, but it's still a preview. I was slightly disappointed when it turned out that the gallery didn't have pictures taken by the camera, but rather pictures of the camera!

    I think I read somewhere they'd done something clever by not using a zoom - building the sensor so that it was aligned to the non-perpendicular rays coming out of the back of the lens or something. Otherwise they'd need to make the lens or the body a lot thicker to optically align the light 'for digital'. Pulling off that trick with a zoom lens might be possible, but it's a order of complexity greater than what they have done.

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  • valli 21 Feb 2011 18:52:49 14,042 posts
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    Yea, the only shots taken with it I've seen were with a very early firmware that didn't allow HQ JPG compression I think, from some Norwegian magazine. It was on dpreview, followed by the mandatory "LOL EPIC FAIL" replies from 4/3, NEX users and other jealous filth. :)

    Haven't heard about the technique you mention mal, will be interesting to follow the reviews. Giving up a bayonette and of course the mirror moving up and down saves them quite some space.

    NEX with pancake is just as thin (54mm) which makes the E-mount thingy Sony has created even more impressive.
  • valli 26 Feb 2011 11:24:17 14,042 posts
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    Lots of images taken with the X100 (still beta/preprod firmware) have appeared.

    The good: in the right hands, this camera seems absolutely awesome.

    The bad: the dpreview X100 forum has exploded into a shitstorm. Makes EG "360 vs PS3" threads look tame and I feel sorry for the Fuji DSLR users who get to share that forum with the "pro photographers" judging the X100 from said images.

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