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  • Bremenacht 20 Oct 2012 13:33:23 18,719 posts
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    A lot of advice on SSDs is quite old and relates to desperate space-saving measure, when 64GB was the most people could afford. The swap file was one of them.

    If the paging file was somehow able to start retarding your SSD -after a few years, let's say- you'd probably be wanting to upgrade by that point anyway.

    One wee tip: check for the latest firmware before you go installing all your apps.
  • quadfather 20 Oct 2012 18:21:02 12,879 posts
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    Nice one chaps, thanks for the info

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • Sharzam 21 Oct 2012 15:20:54 3,009 posts
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    @quadfather

    Yeah my CPU is the weak point also it is 'only' 7.7. When everything else is 7.9 you kinda want to upgrade to make it feel balanced . Well thats what i tell myself got to make excuses for pointless upgrades.

    Running i5 2500k, it is happy at 4.6ghz but i can push to 5ghz but it isnt so happy. Regarding memory is it the clock speed or timings which make difference to the score ? Have 16gb at 1600mhz and CL7.

    Known as 'Sharzam' in 98.5% of games

  • overcorpse 21 Oct 2012 19:34:20 283 posts
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    @Sharzam I think your just suffering from "moar powah!" syndrome.I get it badly myself,I've had my system 3 weeks and it rinses everything i throw at it yet i've come close to buying a HD7970 twice.Its one of the reason i quit PC gaming the first time around because i was constantly upgrading for no explicable reason all in the name of 2-3% "moar powah".

    Nerf paper,scissors are fine as they are. - Rock.

  • RedSparrows 22 Oct 2012 11:53:57 23,298 posts
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    Buily my PC last night. Apart from the fan being a cock to put in, it was surprisingly easy. Just need to plug in all the right plugs and see if the thing wants to play ball.

    I don't think I fucked the mobo... /prays
  • quadfather 22 Oct 2012 12:34:21 12,879 posts
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    Sharzam wrote:
    @quadfather

    Regarding memory is it the clock speed or timings which make difference to the score ? Have 16gb at 1600mhz and CL7.
    I cant remember tbh - I'll check when I get home

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • Sharzam 22 Oct 2012 20:40:45 3,009 posts
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    @Ilovechips
    @overcorpse

    Hehe I was joking. I would never overclock with the win score in mind. After all power is pointless past a point, the question is where is that point?

    Edited by Sharzam at 20:44:15 22-10-2012

    Known as 'Sharzam' in 98.5% of games

  • kadooosh 22 Oct 2012 20:53:06 1,464 posts
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    Random post.. Would it be better to wait til after Xmas to get a pc? I'm getting one but don't know whether to hold out.. Never paid attention to pc prices before..
  • overcorpse 22 Oct 2012 21:01:15 283 posts
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    @Sharzam But that's the point.I don't or should i say didn't know where that point was.I became so obsessed with having the perfect rig that one time i bought 2 graphic's cards in 2 weeks,utterly pointless.

    Now that i have got back into PC gaming those voice's still whisper to me but i'm wise enough to tell them to fuck off.Doesn't stop me drooling on tech pages though.

    And why hsve i lost ilovechips comments,they have just disappeared.

    Nerf paper,scissors are fine as they are. - Rock.

  • overcorpse 22 Oct 2012 21:03:46 283 posts
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    @kadooosh You can get a bargain anytime of the year just need to hunt them down.

    Nerf paper,scissors are fine as they are. - Rock.

  • RobTheBuilder 22 Oct 2012 21:09:17 6,521 posts
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    @kadooosh If you are buying one built then yes, if you are building then I would imagine: yes if you want high end equipment that might be on sale, no if you want budget equipment that won't go down by much.

    The best bet is to keep an eye on new product launches (esp graphics cards), as it usually means the older range goes down in price.
  • kadooosh 22 Oct 2012 21:15:07 1,464 posts
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    RobTheBuilder wrote:
    @kadooosh If you are buying one built then yes, if you are building then I would imagine: yes if you want high end equipment that might be on sale, no if you want budget equipment that won't go down by much.

    The best bet is to keep an eye on new product launches (esp graphics cards), as it usually means the older range goes down in price.
    Cheers, im buying built so suppose it's worth keeping an eye on what's inside. Anyone heard of Vibox on ebay? Seem good for the money!
  • RobTheBuilder 22 Oct 2012 21:25:31 6,521 posts
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    Yeah, I'd work out what spec you are after then look for good deals. Stores seem to have largely laptops, so not sure about the best angle for built PC's (I build mine).
  • overcorpse 22 Oct 2012 22:38:08 283 posts
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    @kadooosh I looked at Vibox but there are a few others too Fresh Tech Solutions.

    Not wanting to sound like a shill but i used Fresh Tech and i was more than happy with my purchase but i'm sure they are all much of a muchness.

    Edited by overcorpse at 22:43:42 22-10-2012

    Nerf paper,scissors are fine as they are. - Rock.

  • Maturin 23 Oct 2012 19:05:23 3,098 posts
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    Thanks to this thread I've been looking around at lots of various suppliers for my new PC. PC Specialist still seems to be cheaper than any of the custom builders for what I want. Probably going to order tonight.

    Case: Coolermaster HAF XM
    CPU: Ivy Bridge i5 3570K
    Mobo: ASUS P8-Z277-V
    RAM: 16GB Kingston Hyper-X Genesis 1600 MHz
    Graphics: 2GB Nvidia GTX670
    OS Drive: 120GB Kingston SSD
    Data Drive: 1TB WD Caviar Black
    PSU: 650W Corsair Enthusiast
    CPU Cooler: Spire Gemini Rev 3

    Any comments, suggestions etc. before I order?
  • quadfather 23 Oct 2012 19:20:31 12,879 posts
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    Maturin wrote:
    Thanks to this thread I've been looking around at lots of various suppliers for my new PC. PC Specialist still seems to be cheaper than any of the custom builders for what I want. Probably going to order tonight.

    Case: Coolermaster HAF XM
    CPU: Ivy Bridge i5 3570K
    Mobo: ASUS P8-Z277-V
    RAM: 16GB Kingston Hyper-X Genesis 1600 MHz
    Graphics: 2GB Nvidia GTX670
    OS Drive: 120GB Kingston SSD
    Data Drive: 1TB WD Caviar Black
    PSU: 650W Corsair Enthusiast
    CPU Cooler: Spire Gemini Rev 3

    Any comments, suggestions etc. before I order?
    Sounds like a beefy spec - how much is that setting you back?

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • quadfather 23 Oct 2012 19:21:33 12,879 posts
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    I'd maybe change the ssd to a samsung 830 series, depending on the kingstons read/write speed

    psn quaddy456, Dark Souls tips

  • Maturin 23 Oct 2012 19:25:46 3,098 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    I'd maybe change the ssd to a samsung 830 series, depending on the kingstons read/write speed
    535 Read, 460 Write. I could just pick a different SSD. Though the choices are between Intel and Kingston models only.

    quadfather wrote:
    Maturin wrote:
    Thanks to this thread I've been looking around at lots of various suppliers for my new PC. PC Specialist still seems to be cheaper than any of the custom builders for what I want. Probably going to order tonight.

    Case: Coolermaster HAF XM
    CPU: Ivy Bridge i5 3570K
    Mobo: ASUS P8-Z277-V
    RAM: 16GB Kingston Hyper-X Genesis 1600 MHz
    Graphics: 2GB Nvidia GTX670
    OS Drive: 120GB Kingston SSD
    Data Drive: 1TB WD Caviar Black
    PSU: 650W Corsair Enthusiast
    CPU Cooler: Spire Gemini Rev 3

    Any comments, suggestions etc. before I order?
    Sounds like a beefy spec - how much is that setting you back?
    A not very in the spirit of the thread. 1150. But it's way lower than any of the other custom builders can do it for. I've used PC Specialist for my last PC and was impressed with the build and service.

    I still may tinker a little with the spec before ordering.
  • nedsnurb 24 Oct 2012 20:04:06 15 posts
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    Looking at upgrading my archaic system come christmas, looking at spending somewhere between 750-1000.

    I'm looking at something that'll keep me going for the foreseeable future, mainly for gaming and some 3D modelling. I know that theres technically not a best time to pick up a PC but wanted peoples thoughts on Broadwell and whether it'd be worth holding off? Or am I not going to see a massive difference in performance?

    I really just want something that is as future proof as possible but obviously if it meant saving some money on a build now to potentially upgrade late next year I'd be happy too.

    This system at Chillblast has caughty my eye http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Thunderbird.html

    I'll most likely been playing at 1920 x 1080 res, would a 670 be overkill?

    Any advice appreciated!

    Edited by nedsnurb at 20:04:29 24-10-2012

    Edited by nedsnurb at 20:04:58 24-10-2012
  • Maturin 24 Oct 2012 20:07:05 3,098 posts
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    Wow that's a damn good price. Don't like the case though - and it'd cost more to have the case I want than I could buy it for myself.

    Know much about the company, are they reliable?

    Edited by Maturin at 20:08:53 24-10-2012
  • nedsnurb 24 Oct 2012 20:38:16 15 posts
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    Well I have heard generally good things about them, the odd bad story but I know a mate of mine ordered from them a couple years back and had no problems, and for the money I can't find much better.
  • Maturin 24 Oct 2012 20:42:43 3,098 posts
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    Yes initial prices seem good. But changing the spec is very expensive. They want a ridiculous amount of money to change that PC from 8GB to 16GB. They want 70 for another 8GB, whereas PC Specialist asks 24.

    The case I would like would add 114 to the price - that's on top of the price you're paying for the original case, which doesn't come off when you choose another, That case costs 89 on PC Specialist - in real terms Chilliblast is charging 160 for it.

    Edited by Maturin at 20:44:50 24-10-2012
  • nedsnurb 24 Oct 2012 20:53:31 15 posts
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    Yeah your right, I hadn't thought about changing the spec from that system to be honest, and after those figures I probably won't be!

    I'm just after the best bang for buck so to speak, I know that isn't particularly easy to achieve with PC systems with the constant changes, I know a couple months down the line it will be outdated, but just to try and build the best system possible!

    I think in all honesty I'm probably after a better system than I really need, spending less might save me money and still get the results I want, but I'm not quite up with the latest cards and components as I once was, but just don't want to be worrying about upgrading for a while is probably pushing me towards that higher figure!
  • Maturin 24 Oct 2012 21:03:30 3,098 posts
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    I'm in the same boat. Replacing a PC I bought in early 2008. I want to get the biggest bang for my buck that I can - because I won't tinker with it much in future, perhaps a mid-life graphics upgrade like I did with my current machine.

    I've been hovering over the "buy" button at PC Specialist for two days now. I'm pretty sure of the spec - it's the same as I posted higher in the thread - albeit I've changed to a 2TB HD from a 1TB one as it's only 20 more.

    But I'm not thinking about graphics. The Radeon 7950 isn't that far off a GTX670 but is a heck of a lot cheaper. Decisions decisions.
  • nedsnurb 24 Oct 2012 21:12:18 15 posts
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    Indeed, I think I'm just going to have to bite the bullet and go for one when iv got the money, and don't look back!
  • kadooosh 28 Oct 2012 17:22:33 1,464 posts
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    How well will this run bf3? Considering I'm a bit of a noob to PCs how good is this for the price?

    http://www.ebuyer.com/398367-cyberpower-gaming-battalion-502-desktop-eecc01139
  • Buztafen 29 Oct 2012 11:19:00 16,351 posts
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    Morning, im doing a bit of research for a mate who's taking my 8800GTX off my hands. He'll need a new PSU but were looking for a good cheap deal as he's got limited funds. According to teh interweb the card needs 28A on the +12v and a minimum of 450w output.

    Will something like this for 35 do...or does anyone have any suggestions?
  • Buztafen 29 Oct 2012 11:23:45 16,351 posts
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    Buztafen wrote:
    Morning, im doing a bit of research for a mate who's taking my 8800GTX off my hands. He'll need a new PSU but were looking for a good cheap deal as he's got limited funds. According to teh interweb the card needs 28A on the +12v and a minimum of 450w output.

    Will something like this for 35 do...or does anyone have any suggestions?
    It appears the above psu looks to have dual +12v rails which total 45A rather than a single rail, and 2 x Pci-e 6pin power cables which is what the 8800 needs.

    Edited by Buztafen at 11:24:35 29-10-2012
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