I thought this season suffered massively as a result of the location change from the fight club. Spartacus and the purpose of the slaves was dull and the series hinged upon the power play between the 4 villains which isn't anywhere near interesting enough to carry 10 episodes despite having some good moments.|
Ashur's fighting ability was something special though: series 1 he was a cripple, removed from training completely; series 2 he was a force to be reckoned with, slaying soldier and standing toe to toe against the best of the gladiators, only to then be slaughtered by by some tart with five minutes of sword training.
Blood and Sand and Gods of the Arena were excellent but it was like Vengeance was written by a different group, all of the rules and characterisation was lost.
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Can't argue with any of that.
I've just started re-watching Blood and Sand, and even the fairly poor first episode is far better than the 'best' of the Vengeance episodes.
Trane 4,060 posts
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The fight scene culminating in Ashur's demise was the lowest point in the shows history for me.
Aside from that, the final episode was good (although it did climax a little too quickly - badum-tish). I don't understand why they didn't just make it 20 minutes longer or something.
The Ashurbanipal thing was fine. He's always been a cocky shit and it was his downfall here. Though I do agree it's quite odd how he recovered so fast. But then he did go toe to toe with doctore at the end of season 1.
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Ashur had been shot in the shoulder with an arrow though and he was only defeated by Naevia because of her overwhelming hatred for him and his arrogance. I was literally cheering at the screen as she hacked at his neck; it was such a satisfying end to a slimy, nasty character IMO.
I thought Vengeance was very good myself though the new Spartacus took some getting used to and even in the last episode I still felt he was an inferior imitation of Andy Whitfield's character. The last episode was full of surprises. I expected Glaber to die since he was the main villain but didn't expect either Oenomaus, Mira or Lucretia to meet their ends. Lucretia was a great character in the first two series but she was somewhat wasted in this series, thanks to a reduced role and her mental state. She wasn't given much to do which might be why she was written out?
Regardless of whether people where disappointed with this series' conclusion, it's hard to deny that it delivered on the action front. Even the weak episodes were consistently entertaining for me, thanks to all the blood, gore and sex. Looking forward to the next series (if they is one?).
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In my opinion, Vengeance suffered as a result of location change and largely due to the "new" spartacus. Andy was better than McIntyre regarding acting, expression etc.
I recently re-watching all episodes of Blood and Sand and all of them made me feel, especially the Sura's death and the final rebellion.
At the end:
Blood and Sand
Gods of the Arena
PS: I'm sorry for my english
Edited by antonio85 at 19:15:20 04-04-2012
Your English is fine.
Series 3 was green lighted before Vengeance aired.
Yeah they have already cast Marcus Crissus and Julius Ceaser as well as several females.
Really though the series can only go another two years and we all know how it ends!
It's Marcus Crassus.
Should say here that I recently purchased the 'Blood and Sand' and 'Gods of the Arena' DVDs.
These shows are SO much better without the annoying advert breaks every 10 minutes. I really recommend buying the DVDs.
Gods of the Arena is truly epic.
Just watching the two series' back to back starting with GoTA. On a second viewing you really appreciate just how good it is.
I wonder whether they couldn't do some more prequels - the story of Gannicus for instance. Or the story of Batiatus' father (with a child Quintus Batiatus).
Charlie_Miso 1,191 posts
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Next season to be the last. Subtitle: War of the Damned
Hopefully it can out with a bang.
Not sure if anyone has come across the Be Here Now kickstarter, but it looks like a pretty moving documentary highlighting Andys' battle with Cancer.
Be Here Now
Edited by captbirdseye at 09:21:05 14-06-2012
Widow of Spartacus star Andy Whitfield reveals the heartache behind his death from cancer
Just started this from Blood and Sand, and, I can't tell if it's the biggest load of bollocks i've ever seen (acting, dialogue, action) or if it's wondrously entertaining greatness.
Looks fucking stunning on bluray I have to say.
Whose his lady companion with red hair? Hannah's, fuck I know where but can't see where. It's not BSG is it, the Aussie Cylon?
Kostabi 5,610 posts
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Lucy Lawless, best known for being Xena I guess.
Okay finished the first one, that was great
Just realised that the final season kicks off in two weeks.
It's still got it.
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Are the new villains good? Was the biggest worry for me.