X201 wrote:I find it hard to believe that they have genuinely new, significant information. I'm sure it's just a way of revealing that a lot more phone hacking went on than the few cases they described first time around.
Fresh police enquiry too...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12290535
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Registered 7 years agoBremenacht wrote:
Sienna Miller's lawyer has apparently raked up a shed load of info that the police didn't know existed when they did their enquiry.X201 wrote:
I find it hard to believe that they have genuinely new, significant information. I'm sure it's just a way of revealing that a lot more phone hacking went on than the few cases they described first time around.
Fresh police enquiry too...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12290535
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Registered 6 years agoOhhhh. Could get spicey then. Let's hope she isn't bought off.
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Registered 7 years agoIf anyone wants to keep up with this, but doesn't want the tabloid crap that goes with it, PM on Radio 4 is keeping tabs on it almost daily.
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Registered 4 years agoThe Guardian are saying that the NotW and Glenn Mulcaire hacked Milly Dowler's phone and deleted some of her voicemails as her inbox filled up.
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I hope this sparks a decent RM backlash.bf3: sergeant_shaftoe
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Registered 7 years agoTom_Servo wrote:
To be honest, I can think of few things more worthy of being outraged about. I'm struggling to believe it's actually true - it's the actions of a psychopath.
It's despicable, especially the deleting of voicemails, but the monumental Twitter outrage is already making me a bit nauseous.D****** ******r
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Registered 11 years agoI'm struggling to believe what sort out person would sanction and do such a thing. Complete cunts isn't harsh enough.This space left intentionally blank.
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Registered 11 years agoReal classy.
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My problem more comes from people now using this to make points about Murdoch buying up the rest of Sky, etc. I've even seen this being used to excuse Johann Hari's plagiarism, which was a real eye-roller.Tom_Servo wrote:
To be honest, I can think of few things more worthy of being outraged about. I'm struggling to believe it's actually true - it's the actions of a psychopath.
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Registered 8 years agoI have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand I dislike tabloid journalists but on the other hand I see lots of rich people making some easy money out the fact they got their voice mail hacked. How often are you really going to have some really deep and meaningful personal thing in a voice mail. I would imagine the hacking mainly netted extremely insignificant tittle tattle and as a result some rich people get richer. Seriously if someone offered me a 100K to have my voice mail hacked I would think it was a bargin.
I think my ideal solution would be have all the journalists involved get imprisoned but none of the rich people that got hacked get cash settlements. It seems unlikely this will be possible though.
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Ermm. Wow.
I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand I dislike tabloid journalists but on the other hand I see lots of rich people making some easy money out the fact they got their voice mail hacked. How often are you really going to have some really deep and meaningful personal thing in a voice mail. I would imagine the hacking mainly netted extremely insignificant tittle tattle and as a result some rich people get richer. Seriously if someone offered me a 100K to have my voice mail hacked I would think it was a bargin.
So the fact that there's nothing interesting to be found most probably means that you can't really complain that your right to private is invaded? The fact that these rights are invaded for entirely financial motives without the knowledge of the person being hacked is not an issue? The fact that you'd happily be asked consent to be hacked so completely misses the point of why this is offensive. Seriously, really?
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Registered 7 years agoThis directly interfered with a criminal investigation into the abduction of a girl... this isn't a celebrity being caught out, this is serious stuff.D****** ******r
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These are people who use the media when it suits them. I guess I see the crime just I am not down with the idea of rich people getting given more money for a level of harm that seems unproven. I would be happy to see the journalists in question be imprisoned I am just not keen on the rich getting free money out of this.glaeken wrote:
Ermm. Wow.
I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand I dislike tabloid journalists but on the other hand I see lots of rich people making some easy money out the fact they got their voice mail hacked. How often are you really going to have some really deep and meaningful personal thing in a voice mail. I would imagine the hacking mainly netted extremely insignificant tittle tattle and as a result some rich people get richer. Seriously if someone offered me a 100K to have my voice mail hacked I would think it was a bargin.
So the fact that there's nothing interesting to be found most probably means that you can't really complain that your right to private is invaded? The fact that these rights are invaded for entirely financial motives without the knowledge of the person being hacked is not an issue? The fact that you'd happily be asked consent to be hacked so completely misses the point of why this is offensive. Seriously, really?
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Registered 8 years agoThe fact that they are rich and famous is irrelevant, the compensation/settlements have been awarded based on the fact their privacy has been invaded. Anyone else would be treated the same, just because newspapers have no interest in breaking into random voicemails does not mean the victims should not be compensated because they've already got money. I know the rich get richer etc but you have to look at this objectively.
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To say that they "use the media when it suits them" in some way allows the media to then disregard any laws when dealing in them in return is a ridiculous argument. I use electricity, so I can't complain if faulty wiring eletrocutes me? And the "unproven" elelement of harm is exactly the point of these things going to court. To prove the level of harm and decide on adequate compensation. Of course that level of compensation should be significant to compensate for what happened (your "Seriously if someone offered me a 100K to have my voice mail hacked I would think it was a bargin."
These are people who use the media when it suits them. I guess I see the crime just I am not down with the idea of rich people getting given more money for a level of harm that seems unproven. I would be happy to see the journalists in question be imprisoned I am just not keen on the rich getting free money out of this.
So I am happy with the state position on this but unhappy with the civil side.
. That's the *point* of compensation. .gif)
But anyway, in the Dowler family case, you're not dealing with celebrities, you're not dealing with well off people being subjected to an "unproved" level of harm. I'm sure they would be quite happy to never have had any of the media attention they've had. There is apparently evidence that the media have tampered with evidence in order to try and secure a story to make some money.Thanks for expressing interest in my signature!
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Registered 8 years agoThe Dowlers are obviously a different case altogether.
Was the damage done to Sienna Miller worth 100K? Was it fuck.
The amounts celebs will get really won't be harming News corp either. Now if they were to be hit by some huge corporate fine for encouraging illegal activity in their employee's now that might be something. It's cleary been going on for quite some time and they don't seem to have been able to stamp it out.
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That was pretty shocking, supposedly her inbox was full so they deleted some in the hope more of interest would arrive, police noticed she (sic) was deleting messages and assumed she was alive somewhere. Eek!
According to the Guardian they not only tampered with her voicemail and deleted messages, which demonstrates an astonishing lack of compassion and and intelligence even for a tabloid journalist, but accessed or tried to access the detectives phones as well.
If there was any justice they would be forced to publish one final issue apologising for everything they have done and then be shut down forever.
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Absolutely appalling.
That was pretty shocking, supposedly her inbox was full so they deleted some in the hope more of interest would arrive, police noticed she (sic) was deleting messages and assumed she was alive somewhere. Eek!
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