Guardian readers have no sense of irony.

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  • Metalfish 28 Jan 2009 20:34:19 8,786 posts
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    Ah, good to see the free thinkers with their balanced opinions on GM commenting on this article.

    Now I'm very obviously on the pro-GM side of this debate, I've said so on here before. Though it's not a debate with reactionary attitudes like this, where without the same twisted propaganda masquerading as fact is wheeled out, citing some sinister agenda by biotech companies to enslave all humanity or something.

    There is no doubt fact-twisting by both sides, but I've seen a lot of the evidence for myself and am having trouble understanding why we haven't come on in the last 20 years on this issue.

    Of course what jonny-England does RE GM is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things: other countries will benefit/suffer from this tech regardless.

    Oh and look out for scare stories regarding Nanoparticles, it's the next big thing to get irrationally worried about.
  • nickthegun 28 Jan 2009 20:41:29 58,784 posts
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    I have a sense of irony.

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    He totally called it

  • the_dudefather 28 Jan 2009 20:42:46 9,196 posts
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    its like goldy or bonzey but its made of iron innit?

    (ง ͠ ͟ʖ ͡)

  • the_dudefather 28 Jan 2009 20:47:45 9,196 posts
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    at least the canned 'frankenfood' phrase seems to have gone out of fashion

    (ง ͠ ͟ʖ ͡)

  • moggsy 28 Jan 2009 20:49:04 3,860 posts
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    I read the Guardian sometimes.
  • Metalfish 28 Jan 2009 20:52:06 8,786 posts
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    It's the constant bleating of "Monsanto! Monsanto! They're like the devil spawn of the dark lord Sauron and Dr Evil!" that gets me. Yes, that's reasoned debate right there.
  • Deleted user 28 January 2009 20:59:50
    Metalfish wrote:
    Oh and look out for scare stories regarding Nanoparticles, it's the next big thing to get irrationally worried about.

    I was reading about them earlier this year - fantastic story, basically scientists saying "we don't know of any harmful effects but we don't know everything about them yet" and journalists going "which means the things they don't know about are probably harmful". Er, yeah, maybe...
  • Feanor 28 Jan 2009 21:01:11 14,055 posts
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    I always try to buy GM food if possible, just because the anti-GM greenies are so incredibly shrill.
  • Load_2.0 28 Jan 2009 21:03:24 18,893 posts
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    I have no sense of irony. Almost burnt the house down twice this year.
  • Khanivor 28 Jan 2009 21:05:31 40,387 posts
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    Ban GM, let's all go organic!!!

    But who gets to decide which six out of every ten people on the planet gets to die?
  • Deleted user 28 January 2009 21:06:18
    Feanor wrote:
    I always try to buy GM food if possible, just because the anti-GM greenies are so incredibly shrill.
    Yeah, I want my kids to be born with 3 arms, 5 heads and 12 pairs of legs damnit!
  • Deleted user 28 January 2009 21:10:36
    Wait why do people hate GM foods?
  • Khanivor 28 Jan 2009 21:12:04 40,387 posts
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    Because they are simpletons and don't wanna be controlled by the evil American Imperialist Corporations.
  • bainbrge 28 Jan 2009 21:19:55 1,687 posts
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    The quality of the 'debate' on the Guardian is probably the most depressing thing in my lunch hour. EVERY SINGLE THING is reduced, immediately, to some sub sixth form whinge about overpaid bankers, my personal guilt for the actions of every colonial power since the Roman era, and a completely embarrassing 'right on' vortex of proportions not seen outside of Viz and the Milly Tant strip.
  • Khanivor 28 Jan 2009 21:21:57 40,387 posts
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    Something has to balance out the Daily Fail readership :)
  • MetalDog 28 Jan 2009 21:24:45 23,708 posts
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    To be honest, the money-grubbing, amoral fuckery of companies like Monsanto don't help the pro GM crowd at all.

    -- boobs do nothing for me, I want moustaches and chest hair.

  • Khanivor 28 Jan 2009 21:26:23 40,387 posts
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    Nope, it sure doesn't. So it's a good thing they aren't the only ones involved in GM.
  • Ginger 28 Jan 2009 22:19:58 6,826 posts
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    I want to grow GM crops on my allotment and cheat at the "who's got the biggest marrow" competitions :)

    London open taekwondo champion

  • RedSparrows 28 Jan 2009 22:41:36 22,030 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    Something has to balance out the Daily Fail readership :)


    QFT

    I read the Guardian sometimes, but I have ironiez, post modern innit.
  • Bremenacht 28 Jan 2009 22:46:42 17,613 posts
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    MetalDog wrote:
    To be honest, the money-grubbing, amoral fuckery of companies like Monsanto don't help the pro GM crowd at all.
    Yes. They're the company that introduced wheat crops with 'terminator genes' to ensure that farmers couldn't retain seed for future crops - they'd have to go and buy new seed every time. They then tried to muscle into Africa with this crap by means of the usual corruption and under-pricing - trying to ensure they had a dependant and reliable market. I can't remember how that issue played out - I'll have to look it up.
  • deem 28 Jan 2009 22:48:43 31,641 posts
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    What's going on with his eyes?
  • ElectroDiva 28 Jan 2009 22:49:25 588 posts
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    Haven't there been lots of farmers suiciding in India because of those terminator genes ?

    /dimly remembers reading something along those lines

  • skuzzbag 28 Jan 2009 22:49:33 5,636 posts
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    Is it wise to go planting GM crops in the UK without waiting for the studies on the effects of GM crops on the environment which are not yet due to complete.

    IMO it's fucking stupid. I'm not pro or against GM crops to be honest but the goverment have yet again ignored advice from research agencies to hold back on planting until they know for sure the environment will be safe.
  • Khanivor 28 Jan 2009 22:52:00 40,387 posts
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    ElectroDiva wrote:
    Haven't there been lots of farmers suiciding in India because of those terminator genes ?

    /dimly remembers reading something along those lines


    You'll have read it, but it's total shit and disgraceful propaganda from the anti-GM lot.

  • Bremenacht 28 Jan 2009 22:59:23 17,613 posts
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    Here we go:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/465222.stm

    It's an old article, but apparently they're quietly continuing to develop 'sterile seed technology. It's got a new name too:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_seeds
  • ElectroDiva 28 Jan 2009 23:02:30 588 posts
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    Bremenacht wrote:
    It's an old article, but apparently they're quietly continuing to develop 'sterile seed technology. It's got a new name too:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_seeds

    Genius - with a name like "Genetic use restriction technology ", no one will EVER guess...
  • ElectroDiva 28 Jan 2009 23:06:16 588 posts
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    "There is a concern that V-GURT plants could cross-pollinate with non-genetically modified plants, either in the wild or on the fields of farmers who do not adopt the technology. Though the V-GURT plants are supposed to produce sterile seeds, there is concern that this trait will not be expressed in the first generation of a small percentage of these plants, but be expressed in later generations"

    o_O
  • Psychotext 28 Jan 2009 23:06:28 53,808 posts
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    Whilst I really do dislike some of these companies... the sheer paranoia displayed by average uninformed Joe on this sort of thing is usually quite entertaining. :)
  • skuzzbag 28 Jan 2009 23:06:59 5,636 posts
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    It'll end in triffids eating your face and pods that make copies of people with dogs heads

    and when it does don't come moaning on here.
  • Metalfish 28 Jan 2009 23:08:12 8,786 posts
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    If I have my way it won't just end with that....

    /Pulls back curtain revealing huge Monsanto logo

    Muhahahahahah!
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