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  • Telepathic.Geometry 31 Oct 2013 08:28:32 11,263 posts
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    He doesn't clearly say, he just says he can't. Sorry dude...

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  • -cerberus- 31 Oct 2013 08:35:59 2,409 posts
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    @Telepathic.Geometry No problem. Thank you for the translation :) I'm learning Japanese myself at the moment but I've got a long way to go, it's a very difficult and confusing language to learn...

    "You see it too? For me, it's always like this..."
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  • Telepathic.Geometry 31 Oct 2013 08:58:01 11,263 posts
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    Yeah, it's not that hard to speak, but the reading and writing and polite form are no joke. Good luck with the studies. Always nice to have another student among us. Any questions you might have, feel free to ask any time. :-)

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  • boo 31 Oct 2013 09:02:40 11,703 posts
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    TG - thanks for the response last night. I don't have any context at all I'm afraid.
    Still - college tonight, so I'll find out what they are (and post it up in case anyone's interested).

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  • Mola_Ram 31 Oct 2013 09:06:58 6,952 posts
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    Yeah, the second one I would guess as being "one, two... THREE". It gets used sometimes in janken (rock paper scissors) matches. They use it to make decisions, like flipping a coin.

    Edited by Mola_Ram at 09:07:36 31-10-2013
  • simiankid 22 Nov 2013 15:50:18 594 posts
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    So, thanks to lurking in this thread for a little while, I've finally persuaded myself to bite the bullet and learn enough Japanese that I can get by when I take my long-awaited (but sadly still hypothetical) Trip To Japan.

    I've taken what seems to be a slightly odd (possibly stupid) route into the language. Using an iphone apps, I've learnt can now recognise 400 basic kanji, and have (just yesterday) acquired the rudiments of reading hirigana. So far so good.

    So back I go to start reading the kun yomi and on yomi for the kanji I recognise and, surprise surprise, manage to get really confused with the very first one.

    So, one (一;) should be 'ichi' - this much I know from anime etc. But the kun yomi seems to indicate it's pronounced 'hi-to' (ひと;). What the heck?

    Am I missing something really obvious here?
  • ilmaestro 22 Nov 2013 17:36:53 32,406 posts
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    I'm not sure what you're confused by - ichi is the on-yomi, hito is the kun-yomi.

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  • Telepathic.Geometry 23 Nov 2013 02:46:14 11,263 posts
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    I guess that you are confused by the fact that the kun-yomi for both 一 and 人 is hito. Right? Welcome to Japanese. There are fucking tonnes of homophones.

    If that's not the problem, I don't follow ya...

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  • simiankid 23 Nov 2013 12:08:44 594 posts
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    ilmaestro wrote:
    I'm not sure what you're confused by - ichi is the on-yomi, hito is the kun-yomi.
    Aha! Thanks. Looking at it again, I can see the examples do indeed use ichi. The on-yomi seems to have another reading again, which is what was confusing me.

    You can see what I'm talking about here: http://imgur.com/zFFLsNp

    Edited by simiankid at 12:42:50 25-11-2013
  • Telepathic.Geometry 23 Nov 2013 13:23:44 11,263 posts
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    The simpler kanji like 上, 下 and 一 tend to have all kinds of fucked up readings. For example, just for 上 I can think of ue, uwa, aga, age, nobo, jou and kami off the top of my head, and I'm sure JinTypeNoir could give you a half dozen more.

    I think that the best way to learn kanji is to take a few passes at it. So like, maybe you just learn the simplest readings of the first 100 or so kanji, and then you start to pick up another 20 or 30 new ones, and learn a few new readings here and there for the old ones.

    I think that the key is to not get yourself overwhelmed.

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  • The_Goon 2 Dec 2013 16:14:59 124 posts
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    Nice thread. I've been 'learning' Japanese on and off for many years now. I just don't have the time (or at least the motivation/dedication) to be devoting myself to learning the language.

    Frankly, it has started to click a bit lately and I don't think it is a terribly complex language grammatically. It all seems to make sense. The reading and writing is a clusterf**k but a matter of learning I think. I think once I have a good base of vocabulary, I'll be ok. Slowly working my way through Core2k at the moment with some new anki decks which are pretty ace. Going over the same word in multiple formats really helps drive it home. I previously just learned them English to Japanese but it's a bit too easy to breeze through them like that and not take them in.

    Will pop back into this thread for help in the future I'm sure!
  • boo 12 Feb 2014 22:07:56 11,703 posts
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    Evening.

    I've been looking up the kanji Sai / Hosoi which (according to my dictionary) means 'slender' or 'minute'.

    I need to find the opposite Kanji, but while the obvious one (at least in English) would be 'wide', I get the feeling that that isn't the case. Wide to me says vast expanses of land, roads etc, whereas slender seems more like it applies to things rather than spaces.

    Can anyone point me in the right direction?

    Cheers!

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  • Nazo 12 Feb 2014 22:16:30 335 posts
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    Wife reckons it's futoi. 太
  • uiruki 12 Feb 2014 22:19:35 3,658 posts
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    The opposite of 細い is 太(ふと)い. That's skinny and fat (or fine as in details and broad as in strokes). Narrow (as in cramped) and wide (as in spacious) are 狭(せま)い and 広(ひろ)い.

    edit: I noticed on that site the way they present stroke order isn't pedantic enough for a learner IMO - if you've got an iOS device, Midori is well worth the cash. For something like 6 it beat the pants off my old electronic dictionary for J/E (mostly because I've not found a Japanese-made J/E dictionary which isn't useless) and it has better presented stroke order diagrams with animations.

    Edited by uiruki at 22:22:14 12-02-2014
  • boo 12 Feb 2014 22:30:17 11,703 posts
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    Excellent - thanks both (and Mrs Nazo!).

    I'll take a look at Midori, too.

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  • boo 6 Mar 2014 15:33:11 11,703 posts
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    Hayulp! Hayulp!

    I need to make some simple sentences describing what I think about various things, using the form 'Watashi wa.... to omoimasu.'

    For example, I could say 'I think Tokyo is too busy' with 'Watashi wa toukyou isogashi sugiru to omoimasu'.

    I'd like to be able to say 'I think Japanese people speak too quickly', but I don't have the vocabulary for it. I'm guessing it would be something like :

    'Watashi wa nihon-jin hanasu satto sugiru to omoimasu'

    Is that anywhere close to being correct?

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  • Nazo 6 Mar 2014 15:51:15 335 posts
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    Is this for a class or something? To me it sounds a bit odd to start the sentence with 'Watashi wa', Japanese wouldn't usually say it as it's obvious from the context who is doing the thinking.
    Isogashii is busy as in busy doing something so I don't think you can apply it to a city, maybe you mean crowded?

    I'd go with:
    Tokyo wa hito ga oosugiru to omoimasu (I think there are too many people in Tokyo)
    Nihonjin no hanashi wa hayasugiru to omoimasu (I think Japanese people's speech is too fast)
  • boo 6 Mar 2014 16:15:57 11,703 posts
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    Thanks Nazo. I'm afraid I'm still at the point where I put 'Watashi wa' in front of most (relevant) sentences - you're right, I probably don't need it.

    Thanks again!

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  • boo 12 Mar 2014 21:05:36 11,703 posts
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    Anyone know what oyoi ( およい ) means? It's not a word I'm familiar with.

    I'm doing some homework, and there's a picture of a guy standing on a beach, and the question is:

    うみ で およい だ と おもいますか

    It's a 'What do you think...?' question, and I know umi = beach, but I'm confused by oyoi.

    Cheers!

    Edited by boo at 21:05:58 12-03-2014

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  • Telepathic.Geometry 12 Mar 2014 22:42:21 11,263 posts
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    泳いだ=およいだ=swam.

    It's the past tense of the verb to swim, 泳ぐ=およぐ. :-)

    The question will be "Do you think he swam in the sea?"

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  • boo 12 Mar 2014 22:49:46 11,703 posts
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    Ah!
    Cheers, TG. Much appreciated!

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  • Telepathic.Geometry 13 Mar 2014 02:08:12 11,263 posts
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    No bother. :)

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  • ryohazuki1983 24 Jul 2014 11:42:59 731 posts
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    Hi Guys, I'm going to Japan in September and want to learn some basic phrases to help me get about/ask for directions and be respectful by at least attempting to speak the lingo.

    I've read a book on the 400 most popular Kanji so at least hopefully I'll be able to tell roughly what signs/shops are.

    Any recommendations on books etc ?

    I was thinking about watching the 80s TV show (and the second series) but wondering what's best.
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