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Saints Row 2 Review

PlayStation 3 PC Xbox 360 Review by Rob Fahey

14 October, 2008

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If you want to talk about Saints Row 2 (right place to be, innit), you've got two different approaches open to you. You could talk, in technical terms and a tone reminiscent of a slightly disappointed maths teacher, about how the graphics aren't terribly impressive. It's got a huge city for you to explore, but compared with the deftly filtered visual richness of something like Grand Theft Auto IV (a comparison that's going to be hauled out a lot, I'm afraid), it looks dated.

You'd probably go on to mention, with faintly pursed lips, that the animation messes up regularly - with characters "popping" out of cars when the doors don't have space to open, for instance. Or you might complain that enemy AI and other road users are fairly simple and dim, or that the radio stations are understocked to the extent that the '80s station seems to play The Final Countdown at least three times an hour. If you want to nit-pick Saints Row 2, you won't have a hard time doing so. It's even got a little bit of screen-tearing and the occasional frame-rate drop.

If you look past that, though, you've got approach number two: it's the first sandbox game since Vice City where 3am comes and goes, and for me, Saints Row 2 is a diamond, no matter how roughly hewn. For all the visible seams, I'm happier talking about fun stuff, like the time I hijacked a car with a passenger still inside, and found myself playing a hidden mini-game where I had to evade the police without letting him escape, until he was so terrified that he offered to pay a ransom. Or the time I walked into a stadium to discover a fully functional Destruction Derby, complete with customisable scrapyard vehicles.

'Saints Row 2' Screenshot 1

Does this look a) ridiculous and unrealistic or b) really good fun?

It's a game that wears its heart on its sleeve. It's a blatant rip-off of GTA's central idea, but the idea has been ripped off by people who understand that what made GTA fantastic wasn't just stealing cars and thumping people, but humour and character. Saints Row 2 is full of memorable gang bosses and underlings, teeming with sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek or simply puerile comments and references.

Moreover, it's hosted a city rich with activity. Every street is full of shops to be explored, activities to take part in, missions to be defeated and enemy strongholds to conquer. From the first moment you set foot in Stilwater (after breaking out of the prison you've languished in since the first game), your map throbs with dozens of icons, each of which can be explored to turn up something new. Even if you're not right next to a mission or activity icon (missions advance the storyline, activities simply earn you money and "respect", which unlocks additional missions), the game rarely leaves you with nothing to do for long, and of course you can always embark on the standard GTA-style crime spree - shoot things until the cops (and rival gangs) turn up, escalating to the point where SWAT vans block off the roads and helicopters circle overhead.

'Saints Row 2' Screenshot 2

If you're still running with 'ridiculous and unrealistic', Saints Row 2 may not be the game for you.

There's extra structure on offer here, though. Hijack a taxi and you get a Crazy Taxi-style game - pick up passengers, deliver them on time, and drive according to their desires to receive a bonus. A tow-truck allows you to repossess cars from (usually violent) owners to earn money. As mentioned, stealing a car with a passenger in it and putting your foot down enables a ransom mini-game. Several days since we began, we're not convinced we've turned up all the distractions on offer, with so many incidental features - like your character singing along to the songs on the radio if you leave it on long enough. Tunelessly and out of time, we might add, but that just makes it even better.

While Saints Row 2 makes no bones about its GTA inspiration, one crucial difference is the concept of territory, with the city of Stilwater divided up into 45 discrete neighbourhoods, which are controlled by an assortment of rival gangs. As you progress through the missions, some of those neighbourhoods come under your control. Others you'll have to take over by assaulting enemy strongholds.

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berelain
14/10/08 @ 05:50
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awesome. I was pretty much on the fence with this, but this review may just have changed my mind. Its got that thing that GTA IV, for all its strong storyline and clever nuances, seesm to miss out on: Fun.
Antwandemarco
14/10/08 @ 05:50
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As good as littlebigplanet?

GAH!
el pimpz
14/10/08 @ 05:50
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Impressive, looking forward to playing it in co-op.
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14/10/08 @ 05:52
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"the graphics aren't terribly impressive. It's got a huge city for you to explore, but compared with the deftly filtered visual richness of something like Grand Theft Auto IV (a comparison that's going to be hauled out a lot, I'm afraid), it looks dated."

Well of course it looks dated, you reviewed the PS3 version, lulz.
Widge
14/10/08 @ 05:52
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Apparently £15 from Tesco.com for PS3...

Still wouldn't touch this with a barge pole!
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14/10/08 @ 05:56
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Wow i am torn.. this or LBP
This game which i have played since GTA3 or LBP a brand new experience.... they are equal good @ 9/10
Fernando
14/10/08 @ 06:10
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wowo high score
mattigan
14/10/08 @ 06:16
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Probably better than GTA4 (or GTAbore as I think of it)
sirtacos
14/10/08 @ 06:16
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Wawaweewah.
Les
14/10/08 @ 06:22
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So it's even worse than GTA IV?! Ouch... ;)
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Huddy
14/10/08 @ 06:23
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Impressive....
Trigga_Tybalt
14/10/08 @ 06:26
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holy crap! was it just me or did everyone else expect this to be another mercenaries 2?
GamesConnoisseur
14/10/08 @ 06:33
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I m sorry but now sick and tired as the proverbial parrot at the same old boring comment of 'not as good as Halo 3' I see peppering everywhere!

Its funny only so for long, and even if the point wasnt ever funny but an angry dig at reviewers/EG/Universe for the 'injustice' of awarding Halo 3 full 10 and other games perceived worthy as an equal to full score or better!

Move on man!

I get it, we get it and even EG get its.

Now back to the subject. pleased for SR2 to get a very respectable 9 and I m sure quite a few would prefer this to GTA4 as build up to be more enjoyable and fun. Both have its place and I ll certainly get my hands on this!

toy_brain
14/10/08 @ 06:34
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Oooohh, tempting. So very very tempting.
Usually I loathe these sandbox-world type games and have never finished a GTA (and didnt get suckered into buying GTA4 despite the massive hype), but something about this game.... I dunno what it is.. possibly the character customisation? really has me wanting.

/adds to list.
MrXBob
14/10/08 @ 06:34
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Told ya so. But I really do wish the reviewer had bothered to play the original... holding hostages in cars is nothing new
ArchiRag
14/10/08 @ 06:40
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not too fussed about the graphics as long as the gameplay is sound, the overthetopness and lulz rating is what made me enjoy the first one although hopefully the online is better this time
Beano
14/10/08 @ 06:43
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9... WTF !?!?!?

Didn't see that coming... thought the first game was utter crap.
Joel_The_Mole
14/10/08 @ 06:47
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Yeah, its £15.97 from Tesco Direct.


Enter FREEDEL at checkout for free delivery.

Just ordered one, might order another and try swap it for LBP or sell it on ebay!
Joel_The_Mole
14/10/08 @ 06:47
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Yeah, its £15.97 from Tesco Direct.


http://www.tesco.com/entertainment/p.......

Enter FREEDEL at checkout for free delivery.

Just ordered one, might order another and try swap it for LBP or sell it on ebay!
Digital~Orgasm
14/10/08 @ 06:51
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Already preordered.

Liked the first one, this seems even better, looking forward to it.

Charlie_Miso
14/10/08 @ 06:52
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strange as it may seem, this may be the biggest temptation to upgrade to the' REAL NEXT/CURRENT GEN!!!!!!!'

the spiritual successor to San Andreas \o/
The_Inquisitor
14/10/08 @ 06:56
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Sounds like a right laugh and also comes at the pefect time for it to ride the waves of GTA4's success. I imagine many people will be getting a crave again for some free roaming action after the summer interlude.
Windsong
14/10/08 @ 07:12
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Well, if there were any reason to upgrade to a high end dual core cpu (i.e. 3.0 ghz)...this is it! Screw console controls with a fps/action game such as this..a mouse/kb setup is the only way to go!
Darren
14/10/08 @ 07:20
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Wooooow... I wasn't expecting Saints Row 2 to get a really good review and 9/10! That's a surprise... but a welcome one regardless.

I loved GTA IV, I believe it's one this year's finest games along with Metal Gear Solid 4, and whether or not Saints Row 2 surpasses it is irrelevant because all I want to know is whether it's fun to play or not. From the reviews I've read it seems that it is and that's all I need to know. The first game was great and very entertaining if a little rough and ragged around the edges so if this sequel is only slightly better then I'll be happy. My pre-order at GAME is already being processed so hopefully I'll be playing this on Thursday... :)
squarejawhero
14/10/08 @ 07:21
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This has been getting suprisingly great reviews and amateur praise everywhere based on the fact that, well, it's really fun.

Shame some snobs have to compare it to other games reviews, they're missing the point entirely.
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14/10/08 @ 07:23
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"Some will dismiss it as GTA's "gangsta" offshoot, but they're missing the point; with its immense scope, fun physics and focus on entertainment over realism or grit, Saints Row is what GTA would have become if Rockstar North had followed Vice City to its pimpin' conclusion."

Please SR doesn't class half the class and style of VC :)

TBH (while I don't buy into the EG review conspiracy crap) I'm slightly dubious of the glowing review seeing as the first game was so bad but I might try a demo. Problem is though the worst thing about SR1 was the gangsta theme for me, like a chav talking "street" it was truly cringe worthy.
Scimarad
14/10/08 @ 07:23
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Sounds more fun than GTA4 TBH. I particularly like the 'increasing your territory' thing as that was one of my favourite bits from San Andreas.
DUFFMAN5
14/10/08 @ 07:24
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As I thought fookin ace. Bring on Friday. I think it is the game I have been most looking forward to this year well maybe this and Fable II. God I love my 360, I want to cover it in pepper and sneeze all over it.
peteb
14/10/08 @ 07:25
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My my, that is a surprise. I had almost written this one off.

Now, I think I'm going to have to give it a try! Sounds fun! :)
bad09
14/10/08 @ 07:28
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@ Scimarad

See for me that was the weakest part of SA, running all over town protecting territory instead of missions was a pain in the ghetto butt
loop7
14/10/08 @ 07:31
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Hmm noticed the big Saints Row 2 banner ads around the page...
mazzl
14/10/08 @ 07:33
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so samo as LBP :P sorry... could not resist...
sound really great dough, i do find gta a bit to serious, might just pick this up after completing fable 2 :)

is there local co-op?
Doctor_What
14/10/08 @ 07:34
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That was unexpected... You know, I think I might take a punt on this.
Darren
14/10/08 @ 07:34
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Having re-read the review, I noticed there's a lack of information regarding the single player mode (How long is it? How varied is it? What's the story like? Does it keep you gripped to the end? Are the missions checkpointed? Does your character speak in this game or is he/she still a mute? Etc., etc.).

Also I don't understand the comment about Saints Row 2's graphics looking dated. I thought the first game looked very good (bar the screen tearing and glitches of which the former was addressed by a patch) with a nice clean, colourful and sharp art style and decent animation. In fact, I still do think the game looks good. It's certainly a huge step up in terms of detail from the GTA's of old on the PS2 and Xbox, those are visuals that I would call dated. Saints Row is only two years old after all and if Saints Row 2 only looks the same then my eyes are going to be content. Thankfully there's a V-Sync On option built into the game too which kind of negates the reviewers comment in the first paragraph about the game having tearing! ;)
Ninja_Tino
14/10/08 @ 07:38
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£16!!! Cheers guys. The choice between 360 and ps3 is now an easy one with that!
richie9997
14/10/08 @ 07:39
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Ordered this off Tesco.com last night, because of the price.

Quite looking forward to the weekend now after reading this. If Tesco don't honour the deal I might have to go and pick this up full price. Really enjoyed the 1st game!
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14/10/08 @ 07:46
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Wow, didn't see this coming.

Still not buying it. Need money for other stuff next week.
cyacomini
14/10/08 @ 07:47
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"...compared with the deftly filtered visual richness of something like Grand Theft Auto IV..."

Sarcasm yeah?
PearOfAnguish
14/10/08 @ 07:47
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Excellent. Knew this would be good. BETTER THAN GTA4.
designerheadache
14/10/08 @ 07:53
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a 9? seriously?

the first game was utter crap.
PearOfAnguish
14/10/08 @ 07:56
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It really wasn't though.
PrivateJoker
14/10/08 @ 08:01
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This site is so going downhill, reviews, trolls etc, almost makes me tempted to go back to IGN again, i said almost.
Vanmunt
14/10/08 @ 08:03
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Right, didn't get involved yesterday but EG seriously... I just pissed myself laughing at this 9 a fricken 9... hahahahahahahahaha.. you have seriously EG lost any semblance of credibility over the last two days. It is clear that the reviewers are either susceptible to a few quid in the back pocket or are seriously just taking the piss. For me it is the last review I read or comment on, I think I will stick to reading Edge and GameTM and look careful at the reviewers... as Dan ‘I love Lego Batman, but not anything actually decent’ and Rob ‘i love shit games, with pop up, texture collisions and pathetic swearing’ are pillocks.

SWame score as LBP, honestly you cant make this stuff up.
andywilkie35
14/10/08 @ 08:07
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I'm enjoying the troglodytes all having a go at this game

I played the original Saints Row yesterday to get myself ready for this and was anticipating playing about 20 minutes of it just to remind myself of how good it was. I ended up playing for three hours just having a shit load of fun! Whilst I thought GTAIV was a really good game, I had much more fun with Saints Row. I thought EG would give this a 6 or 7 just to please the GTA fans but its good to see they've done a proper review. Can't wait for this

"Hmm noticed the big Saints Row 2 banner ads around the page... "

Means nothing. Dead Space and Star Wars The Force Unleashed both got 7/10 and had banner ads around the page.
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JYM60
14/10/08 @ 08:08
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lols at this.

They just get their most critical reviewers to do the sony games.
Bloodkult
14/10/08 @ 08:09
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OH YES!

I can't wait to play it. It'll scratch that itch that GTAIV just couldn't reach.
ElectricDemon
14/10/08 @ 08:09
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Godamnit, as if there weren't enough games coming out, now I have to buy this?! =P

Seriously tempted, but I never played the first game, does that matter at all?
PearOfAnguish
14/10/08 @ 08:10
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Oh for gods sake. Why is it every review has to have someone moaning like a baby? "Wahh I don't agree with the score, I think it should have got less/more."

IT. IS. AN. OPINION.
You may not agree with the score, but that doesn't make it wrong and it doesn't mean reviewers are on the take. It just means you are, for some reason, unable to fathom why someone else would like something when you don't. Stop being fucking idiots.

"This site is so going downhill, reviews, trolls etc, almost makes me tempted to go back to IGN again, i said almost."

Please do go back. You can go cry about their reviews instead.
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nickthegun
14/10/08 @ 08:11
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Yay. The game GTA4 should have been, rather than the po-faced effort that it turned out to be.
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14/10/08 @ 08:12
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You can all piss and whine all you want. The review for this game have universally been excellent. Same with LBP etc. It's not as if EG has given something that's been getting a 6 or a 7 in other reviews a 9.

However, I'm very surprised by this. One thing that comes through is just how much fun it is to play. You remember fun? I'm be buying this on Friday. Wasn't on my list at all until about a week ago.

Can't wait to see fanboy reaction when Fable 2 gets a 10. Bring it on!

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