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Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Review

PlayStation 3 PC Xbox 360 Review by Martin Korda

25 October, 2007

We all like different things. Some adore FIFA 08, some hate it. Some love PES 6, others abhor it. It's all a matter of taste. I'll warn you now, a section of you are going to hate PES 2008, simply because it doesn't dance to the right footy rhythm. Others amongst you will think it's the best game of the series to date and lavish it with the type of love usually reserved for a firstborn, while some of you will just groan and write it off as more of the same. Question is, which is going to be?

As you're probably only too well aware, PES 6 was fast, frenetic and intense, a mix of arcade action and realism melded into a ball-pinging match day experience that thrilled and frustrated in equal measures. For every sublimely orchestrated build-up there was a defender teleporting in front of your attacker, for all the squealing thrills of the Ping-Pong-style physics there were cries of anguish at the farcical penalty area pinball scrambles. PES 6 was a game that provided moments of footballing genius one minute and had you hovering over your console with a hammer and a murderous glint the next.

In many ways, PES 2008 is very similar to its predecessor, yet in others, wholly different. This year's version provides a far more robust rendition of football, exuding the type of muscularity associated with the modern game and injecting it with an arcade vein that sees you pulling off the kind of mesmerising runs that have been AWOL for the past few versions.

The ball feels considerably weightier this year, players more solid and more combative. From the instant you kick off, you'll feel the difference. No longer does the ball skid puck-like over the surface, but bobbles, floats and rolls with greater realism than ever before. Long shots are no longer laser-guided missiles but more akin to real football, where balance, space, time and distance play a greater role when firing at goal. It takes some getting used to, but after a few hours, the weightier ball physics begin to feel natural and satisfying, almost like watching a real, modern-day pigskin flying around a stadium.

The added sense of weight also benefits the players, whose movements are now more lithe and realistic. Tussling and jostling have been taken to the next level, with a player's strength and size having a major impact on their ability to maintain possession and hold off the opposition. A towering six-footer can dispossess a slighter player through brute strength alone (and thankfully this doesn't always result in a foul), though this is offset by an increased dribbling ability that flies in the face of the game's seemingly more realistic approach to the beautiful game.

'Pro Evolution Soccer 2008' Screenshot 1

The Master League now features very basic player interaction.

PES 2008's players - even the less skilful ones such as Dirk Kuyt and Gilberto Silva - can now embark on mazy runs to rival a Greek epic. Players possessing superior footwork such as Ronaldinho and Ronaldo (either of them) have become one-man armies, battering-ram runners with ballerina finesse and magnets on their boots, who can single-handedly win a match by themselves. Controlling these players is a dream for dribbling enthusiasts, though purists amongst you will probably be disgusted at just how easy it is to weave past the opposition.

However, the game still gives the advantage to defenders in the final third, though thankfully the irritating teleporting defenders from PES 6 have been removed. Stoppers show an incredible ability to throw in last-minute tackles and blocks and have a better chance of tackling you in and around the area, though the advantage given to defenders is done subtly enough for you to rarely feel cheated.

One downside to having star players possessing such dazzling footwork, pace and power, is that they become tantamount to tanks, equally adept at tracking back and dispossessing an opponent as they are at dancing past defenders, which is hardly realistic when you find yourself constantly using a Brazilian attacker to charge half the length of the pitch, win possession and then hurtle towards glory on a hypnotising solo run. While patient build-up play is perfectly possible and often preferable to charging forward, PES 2008 can at times take on a basketball-like quality, where teams take turns to stream forward in waves of attacks, then desperately try to defend the counter-offensive (especially in multiplayer).

'Pro Evolution Soccer 2008' Screenshot 2

You can now dribble pretty much the entire length of the pitch with top players like Ronaldinho.

Passing is another facet to receive a revamp. The hit-and-hope technique of earlier PES games has been further abolished here, and you're now forced to genuinely look up and around the pitch to find a player in space, before measuring a correctly weighted pass, through ball or cross.

Other improvements include crowd and player sounds, which have been beefed up since last year. Home spectators now sound genuinely pleased when their team finds the net, rather than a prawn sandwich brigade. Players also grunt a great deal more from the increased physicality of the proceedings. The much vaunted learning AI (Teamvision) is impressive enough and provides a stiff challenge, though rarely does it appear to dynamically learn and counter your playing style as the claims led us to believe it would.

Additions of less importance (more cosmetic than anything else) include more animated crowds, an exhaustive list of stats and achievements that rate how well you play and a basic Master League makeover with rudimentary player interaction and extra player and team stats (hardly the revamp we were all hoping for). There's also a soundtrack that's clearly attempting to suit every taste, but the low quality of the songs is likely to have you hurriedly reaching for the mute button, as is the irritating commentary.

'Pro Evolution Soccer 2008' Screenshot 3

Players either look just like their real-life counterparts, or are totally unrecognisable.

As well as a host of improvements and additions, there's also a fair smattering of negatives here. For starters, too many slide tackles still result in the opposition instantly regaining possession and the new penalty-saving angle feels pointless and occasionally disorientating. What's more, goalkeeper handling is a little suspect at times, especially when it comes to parrying stinging shots, and, somewhat unforgivably, using the new cheat (dive) ability when there isn't an opposition player anywhere near you still results in an instant yellow card. However, perhaps my biggest bugbear lies with the graphics, which despite showing a slight improvement since PES 6 (likenesses are either excellent or utterly inaccurate), still make little attempt to siphon the true potential from next-gen technology.

Ultimately, the main reason behind buying PES 2008 lies with its newfound robustness, thrilling action and an unadulterated joy associated with dribbling that you won't have felt since you were born. Matches lie somewhere between realism and arcade accessibility and the often-frenetic pace provides a totally different football experience to FIFA 08's slower, more considered gameplay.

PES 2008's entertaining match improvements, exhilarating action and solid additions mean it just about scrapes another 8, though at no point does it come even close to flirting with higher scores. It's fast, fluid, fun and physical, an improved, revamped version of PES 6 if you like. If that's what you're looking for from the next iteration of the series, then you won't be disappointed. If not, then I think you can probably work the rest out for yourself...

8/10

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tomdominer
25/10/07 @ 13:03
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Get in!
the_sas_man
25/10/07 @ 13:05
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*cue fanboyism*
rotmm
25/10/07 @ 13:06
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Just a quick question. Given the recent furore over slowdowns, etc. which version was reviewed?

Also, no mention of online play. How is it? Lag, robustness, gamestyles, etc?
MattDamon
25/10/07 @ 13:07
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Good that the review went in depth with the actual mechanics of the game, but pity it skimmed over how the master league is set up now. I really want to know.
ecureuil
25/10/07 @ 13:08
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I knew it. :D
Razzajazz
25/10/07 @ 13:08
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Doesn't really sound like the fulsome praise I was expecting.....
Bonus
25/10/07 @ 13:11
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I love it.

It's the best game in the series to date.
Mentalist(air)
25/10/07 @ 13:11
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FIFA vs PES: score draw

Good news if you're playing the pools.
Paukl
25/10/07 @ 13:12
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Hmmm, no mention of slowdown, and no mention of online play...
Amajiro
25/10/07 @ 13:13
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Could Michael Owen look any less enthusiastic in that photo?
Thamuhacha
25/10/07 @ 13:13
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I dislike it

It is slow and the frame rate is abysmal
QPRHOOPS81
25/10/07 @ 13:16
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I was in HMV today and watched a guy playing Pro 2008 (ps3 version). There was absolutly no slowdown during the game but oddly there was some pretty horrific slowdown during the replays. Well not so much slowdown but really glitchy.
The actual game was fine though which i guess is the important thing. Very odd as surely a replay would be the easiest thing to make smooth.
BeardoUK
25/10/07 @ 13:17
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So, we've heard of crippling slow-down and terrible frame-rate issues from numerous other reviews of the PS3 version but zero mention of it here...

What a mess!



Antwandemarco
25/10/07 @ 13:18
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Grrr i'll buy it, but it certainly doesn't sound like the evolution the series needs. I hate to be a gfx whore but it really does need to start looking nicer. Dum de dum
coderkind
25/10/07 @ 13:18
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Can we please have the PS2 review now so we can work out which version to buy?
ecureuil
25/10/07 @ 13:19
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Yeah, just read it. I'm interested to know which version had been reviewed, and about slowdown. From what I've heard, both version suffer from slowdown, the PS3 version moreso.
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25/10/07 @ 13:19
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"So, we've heard of crippling slow-down and terrible frame-rate issues from numerous other reviews of the PS3 version but zero mention of it here...

What a mess! "

Apparently there is a patch that comes up when you install the game. Think its that that fixes alot of the issues the PS3 version was having? Certainly what i saw today, apart from the replay was very smooth.
asharkman
25/10/07 @ 13:22
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hello eurogamer? Which version was this? What's the 360 version like compared with the PC?
Also for a game that attracts so much attention why the rushed through and short review?
lambtron
25/10/07 @ 13:22
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The slowdown (PS3 version) for me is the worst since Sonic 2 on the Mega Drive. Its that bad.
BeardoUK
25/10/07 @ 13:22
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ManicMiner UK "Worst flaws section of any review I've ever read... how does getting booked for diving when there's no-one near you constitute an "unforgivable" flaw, exactly? I can't even understand what you think the game should do in those circumstances? Nothing, I'd assume?"


It's quite obvious really. If a player who was in possession of the ball with no other players even remotely near him and he 'choose' to fall over and give possession away, he wouldn't get booked in real life would he?
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jimbo118
25/10/07 @ 13:24
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according to this review:
http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/pes7/review.h...
the ps3 version is very poor.

EG, review needed more depth, only 1 page? no mention of version differences, framerate/slowdowns, what about the pc version?
ecureuil
25/10/07 @ 13:26
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Stop bringing up that fucking Pro-G review, for gods sake.
krudster [mod]
25/10/07 @ 13:26
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If we only get one version to review (PS3), I'm not entirely sure how Martin's supposed to comment on the differerences between versions.
sickboy
25/10/07 @ 13:28
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My question is: Is it possible to play on the same team (co-op) online? Much like you could do in PES6 on the PC.
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rotmm
25/10/07 @ 13:32
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krudster,

Fair point and somehow I missed that it was under the PS3 reviews section ;)
jimbo118
25/10/07 @ 13:32
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@ecureuil : sorry, i didnt see it posted in the comments yet, relax.

@ krudster: it doesnt say in the review whether the review was on ps3 or 360 anyway, on your front page it has the review with ps3 and 360 underneath the title so :|
Sud0g
25/10/07 @ 13:33
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Its like watching a pack of dogs..... Go for the Jugular!!!!!!
ne0star
25/10/07 @ 13:36
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One stinking page review for a game as big as this?!?

Come on lads its a 2 page review at least to cover everything!
Putty Man
25/10/07 @ 13:36
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Grand review but as the topic of framerate and slowdown was talked about so much in the forums it would have been nice to have this covered in more detail.
Mentalist(air)
25/10/07 @ 13:38
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@krudster
If we only get one version to review (PS3), I'm not entirely sure how Martin's supposed to comment on the differerences between versions

If you only get one version to review, then don't just stick the other consoles' icons on it then. You did leave the PS3 one off of the Orange Box review, after all.
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25/10/07 @ 13:38
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The game indeed have frame rate problems in replays and introducing scenes... other than that the game play's impecable... better graphics, gameplay is almost the same (if not the same) as the last version and the A.I doesen't seem to be that challenging... multiplayer will be a blast but seems to be inaccessible for now.

It's not easyer or harder to drible so i don't understand that part of the review.

The good old Pro Evo... with some good improvements... but i must admit, these year i was a bit letdown.
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ecureuil
25/10/07 @ 13:39
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If we only get one version to review (PS3), I'm not entirely sure how Martin's supposed to comment on the differerences between versions.

Fair enough. Since the slowdown wasn't mentioned, are we to assume it's not an issue?
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25/10/07 @ 13:40
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Well being in the PS3 Section, Why does this review not have any metion whatsoever of the apparent slowdown issue on the ps3, on pretty much every forum in existence for pes 2008 on the ps3 the biggest concern is the slowdown issue.

Yet Eurogamer fail to make a single mention of this in their review, why ?

Way to go Eurogamer!
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25/10/07 @ 13:40
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My question is: Is it possible to play on the same team (co-op) online? Much like you could do in PES6 on the PC.

ERM NO!!! maybe once pro evo 2010 comes out and they finally get to grips with more than just 1v1. unlike the PS2 version and pc which can handle it just fine.

oh and FIFA which pretty soon is gonna be 5 vs 5. sorry EG but for once your review isn’t very inspiring. ive been a fan of pro evo for years but after your fifa review, also given an 8 i was inspired to go out and see what the competition can offer, so after reading this review which to my eyes is mostly negative it's really hard for me to understand why fifa doesn't get a 9 and this an 8.

Also the fact i have read everywhere apart from here that pro on the ps3 is laggy and full of problems compared to the 360 but not one mention of this. Normally you are the first to speak about games from a functional point of view, this time round it just reads like you skimmed over the game and gave it an 8.

For me from what i have played its a 7 because next gen should mean something by now and for Konami who still doesn’t seem to grasp this while EA have finally woken up. oh well UN-SOLD!
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thehipster7
25/10/07 @ 13:42
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oh shucks dribbling even easier, result more folk online thinking then can dribble from the halfway line again and again. think i'll stick to fifa and pass on buying this tomorrow.

no mention of decent players runs off the ball for those who like to pass then?

pes appears to be more and more of a schoolyard scramble and fifa a champions league game.

by the way - lag online for fifa and/or pes is purely down to poor user isp connections/contention -i've been using the lobby to choose opponents in fifa and have only ever had lag against 'laggers' i.e. those with red connections in lobby, orange always reasonable and green always excellent.

of course my connection is always green ;-))

if you show as red or orange in the fifa lobby then change your ISP!!!

oh by the way 7/10 for NHL'08 - 9/10 more like. superb game.





jimbo118
25/10/07 @ 13:42
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i'm not sure what to do this year, i bought fida 08 after reading positive reviews but brought it back yesterday, i saw a demo of pes2008 yesterday in GameStop running on ps2 behind their counter on a giant screen, the gameplay was so fast, players were superhuman in their responses, the ball just pinged about it at a 100 miles an hour, looked like a sensible soccer 3D remake in fast forward.

Despite Fifa's flaws this year one thing it nailed was the games pacing
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symbiote
25/10/07 @ 13:43
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25/10/07 @ 13:43
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I think i'll pass on this one. All you'll come across is people playing the same teams over and over again, just because they have a "super-dribbler" in their squad. I always thought it amusing about PES6...you'd have people with GTs like "Spurs4life" and their last 5 teams used where all Barcelona, or a mixture of Barca, Inter, AC etc.

I cant see why Konami bother with putting so many teams in the game.
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25/10/07 @ 13:44
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brazzauk
25/10/07 @ 13:45
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Evolution is the wrong word for thiis game. That suggests it moves forward. Not this year. I am gutted with this game. Its lazy and adds little on the shallow PES6 that we had on 360 last year.

What have they been doing for 12 months? The time wasn't used to improve the graphics, sound, licenses or gameplay! Next Gen, dont make me laugh.

I think that Konami have got lazy and the fact FIFA has been crap for years has helped further that. FIFA 08 is good this year and in some ways embarasses this game. I keep playing it wanting to like it more than FIFA, I feel I should, but at the end of the day I think that as a next gen title FIFA is the better all round game this year.
andijames
25/10/07 @ 13:46
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Not one mention of the slowdown in here at all. I am correct in reading it's a PS3 review too??

Surely the worries that readers have raised need to be addressed?
Kirly_Wombat
25/10/07 @ 13:48
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"..somewhat unforgivably, using the new cheat (dive) ability when there isn't an opposition player anywhere near you still results in an instant yellow card."

I think it should. Why would a player throw himself to the ground when noone is near him? Deserves a yellow for stupidity.
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25/10/07 @ 13:49
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@tinners: Thanks for the reply.

Disappointing... Am I the only one who likes playing against the computer with my mates?
brazzauk
25/10/07 @ 13:49
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Buy it on PS2 at least then it has an excuse for slowdown and looking so shit!
miiiguel
25/10/07 @ 13:51
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I agree that the aleged lag has got to be related to one's conection. I've been playing PES6 (on THE machine) for a year and it always played like a dream.
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25/10/07 @ 13:52
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ManicMiner UK "Worst flaws section of any review I've ever read... how does getting booked for diving when there's no-one near you constitute an "unforgivable" flaw, exactly? I can't even understand what you think the game should do in those circumstances? Nothing, I'd assume?"

Yes! you assumed right. If that happened in real life football not only would everyone including the ref laugh at the player in question they would do nothing, because nothing is in question, there is no defender/player to accuse....amazing eh?
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25/10/07 @ 13:53
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This review also shows up in the X360 section. Will there be a seperate review when Eurogamer gets hold of a copy for the 360?
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25/10/07 @ 13:58
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Lag is not purely down to your connection. It is also down to your route to the server. I.e, the distance and how congested it is. Think of your connection like a Porsche 911 and driving it through London in rush-hour. See if you benefit from its terrific speed.
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25/10/07 @ 13:58
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If they clearly dived, even with no one around them they would be booked. Go check your 2007 FA Referring Rulebook. FTW.
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andijames
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I see eurogamer has purchased another season ticket in the "on the fence" section :D

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