Jump to navigation
Advertisement

Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 First Impressions

PlayStation 3 PC PlayStation 2 PSP DS Xbox 360 Wii
First Impressions by Martin Korda

5 October, 2007

Just three weeks to go. Still, if you can't wait that long for a taste of the full game, fear not, as we've just returned from a four-hour playtest of the latest (approx 90% complete) PS3 code. We did try the 360 code, but bafflingly, the shoot and pass controls insisted on defaulting to the trigger buttons, making any kind of dissection virtually impossible. So without further delay, let's get to it...

If you've had a chance to check out the demo, you'll already know roughly what to expect from the general pacing. It's still quick but there also appears to be a greater emphasis on player skill when it comes to pulling off tricky passes and through balls. PES2008 seems to possess an ever so slightly more tactical edge than its predecessor, while never compromising on the excitement levels. FIFA 08 may have taken the realism route this year, but Konami's effort has kept one foot firmly placed on both sides of the fence, with a slight bias towards arcade action.

Example: Players were far more flexible and lithe, and were able to flick the ball off their chests then turn with greater fluidity than in PES6, making for more flowing matches. Conversely (and perhaps this will be tweaked in the final version) star players such as Ronaldinho ran like they were on rails, enabling us to smoothly pull off dribbles that made Maradona's surge against England in ‘86 look like an everyday occurrence. If you're more fond of dribbling than a toddler with an over active saliva gland, you're likely to be in seventh heaven if Konami don't make any last minute alterations, though some of you will no doubt be spitting bile at just how easy it can be to bamboozle opposition defences with more skilful players.

This next one you're either going to love or hate. Diving. Yes, after much cogitation Konami has finally decided to include the dirtiest trick in the book (bribing referees aside) though it struck us as strange that the game was bereft of an option to turn this feature off. Hopefully, Konami will have had the foresight to put this into the final game and help prevent the usual online pissing contests (between die-hard fans with diametrically opposed views) that generally arise from development decisions such as these. The question here is, does it work? Well, kind of. While it was fun to take the odd opportunistic tumble, the constant stream of yellow cards was a pretty sobering experience. In fact, we didn't have a single decision go our way and not once did we see the AI try to use this tactic. What's more - and here's hoping this is sorted before release - we were even yellow carded after taking a dive when there wasn't an opposition player within a ten-meter radius. Ludicrous!

'Pro Evolution Soccer 2008' Screenshot 1

The Master League has received a revamp this year.

While we're on the subject of cards, refs still seemed a little too keen to dish out the yellow and reds for slightly mistimed slide tackles, which when timed correctly, often resulted in the opposition just getting the ball straight back anyway.

Let's move onto ball physics, which admittedly, is always a highly subjective topic. This build saw a decent improvement over last season's pinging pig's bladder and there was a far greater sense of weight to how the ball moved. Slow passes bobbled as they skimmed over the grass, while thunderous shots looked as though they'd been fired out of a cannon. Bounces were also slightly more muted (no bad thing), resulting in free flowing games containing fewer farcical pinball incidents.

These refined ball physics also complemented the revamped passing and shooting controls. This year it seems we're back to having more control over pass and shot power, while through balls are far tougher to pull off. However, when we did manage to thread the eye of the needle, the teeth grindingly annoying defender teleportation feature (whereby the last defender would miraculously outpace you once you were through on goal) from last year's version didn't seem nearly as evident here.

'Pro Evolution Soccer 2008' Screenshot 2

Games are still quick and action packed.

Keepers also looked more realistic, moving with feline flexibility to palm away shots and get down low to push away stinging drives. They also seemed to react later when unsighted before flying into an Oliver Khan-like rage and bellowing at their defenders. However, there were some problems here, too. Perhaps it was just a balancing issue, but keepers tended to spill the ball rather too easily and palm power shots directly into the path of onrushing attackers, a flaw that was most evident (and exploitable) when playing in multiplayer.

Clearer in-game player fatigue, a revised quick freekick option (whereby you can now watch the player grab the ball if it's nearby and quickly resume play), increased crossing accuracy when you make the player look up, more player animations to refereeing decisions, beefier sound effects and some great player likenesses, including a double chin on Ronaldo that practically trails on the ground (though as ever, other well known players were barely recognisable) all proved excellent touches, though we have to admit to really disliking the new behind the keeper angle when facing penalties, which just felt, well, a bit crap really.

Also new this year is a revamped Master League featuring bolstered player interaction features (admittedly we only had a chance to take a quick look at this and will reserve any judgement till the finished version) and a Track Record section that charts achievements and sets specific goals e.g. win ten penalty shootouts or score a 35-meter goal. Track Record will also keep a record of how many games you win, lose and draw, and even provide you with a set of grades for your tackling, passing, and attacking abilities.

'Pro Evolution Soccer 2008' Screenshot 3

You'll either love or hate the new dive feature.

As you can probably see from the screenshots and given that many of you will have played the demo, you'll be well aware that PES2008 is unlikely to win any awards in the next-gen visual stakes, especially when compared to FIFA 08's highly buffed graphics. Overall, PES2008's visual changes appeared to be more incremental than revolutionary, ranging from the more animated but still basic-looking crowds to the contemporary yet hardly eye-popping menus. Perhaps the only serious gripe was the way that players sometimes looked like they were pulling off a pair of pigs with their fists while running. Otherwise, the graphics and animations were generally solid.

While Pro Evo 2008 is unlikely to be a revolutionary leap forward for the series, it certainly looks to be an improvement over last year's version, tackling several key issues and adding some great new tweaks and features. It's too early to make concrete predictions right now, as the version we played was still around 10% off completion, but things are certainly looking positive, despite the odd concern. Just three weeks to go...

Advertisement

Are you excited about Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 on PlayStation 2?
View Eurogamer readers most anticipated games

Thanks!

Want to comment on this article? Log in, or register!

Comments: 1-50 of 72 in total | next 50 »

Poster
Comment Low-scoring comments hidden. Log in to see them!
old skool
05/10/07 @ 13:23
#1
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
diving is a really bad idea...
vane101
05/10/07 @ 13:23
#2
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Probably stick with my under played 2007 version.
Edited 1 times, most recently on 05/10/07 @ 14:24
lambtron
05/10/07 @ 13:23
#3
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
indeed
Darren
05/10/07 @ 13:25
#4
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
What I'd like to know is whether the slowdown and juddery framerate of the replays and cinematics in the 360 demo have been erradicated in the PS3 version because it's the PS3 version I have pre-ordered, purely for the convenience of being able to download the edited Options file from a PC and transfer it to the PS3 via a memory stick.

Also when are we PS3 owners going to get a playable demo? The 360 and PC ones have been out for over a week now...
old skool
05/10/07 @ 13:26
#5
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
if there's one thing that needs to change it's the throws-ins
Edited 1 times, most recently on 05/10/07 @ 14:26
Steroyd
05/10/07 @ 13:27
#6
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
>:( No PS3 PES demo Sony are a bunch of fugly hairy nipples. >:(
Bonus
05/10/07 @ 13:27
#7
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
They're going to finish the game, get it certified by Sony and ship it on PS3 within the next 3 weeks?

I smell something fishy.
Corben Dallas
05/10/07 @ 13:28
#8
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Micheal Owens nickname is Sicknote.
Les
05/10/07 @ 13:30
#9
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
"While Pro Evo 2008 is unlikely to be a revolutionary leap forward for the series"

What's the point of repeating this statement in each and every PS3/360 (p)review?
El_MUERkO
05/10/07 @ 13:36
#10
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Sounds interesting but i'm still confused as to exactly when everyone started to think of PES as the more arcade-like of the pair.

I have to say I'm finding FIFA more enjoyable than PES on a number of levels but mainly because the game seems fairer even if the keepers cover up some of the ai's weaknesses.
Ace_McCloud
05/10/07 @ 13:38
#11
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
This doesn't look very good.

/walks away with head down, hands in his pocket, kicking at the grass. Muttering "Konami you're wank. You've become arrogant and complacent. You've become...........EA!"
DjWhizzkidd
05/10/07 @ 13:38
#12
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Keeprs do spill it far too often, at least they do in the demo anyway. Pro has never got the keepers right.
MattDamon
05/10/07 @ 13:45
#13
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I'm just not convinced that this is going to be good.

Why does every preview focus on the actual gameplay without every looking at the master league etc, has that been revamped? It is kinda important aint it
dazzaman
05/10/07 @ 13:45
#14
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
"Perhaps the only serious gripe was the way that players sometimes looked like they were pulling off a pair of pigs with their fists while running"

Still chuckling about that now, thanks for the Friday funny
Fab4
05/10/07 @ 13:50
#15
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
They should implement a fan running on to the pitch and really hurting Dida...the lame-ass cvnt that he is....effing disgrace to football.
KILLA
05/10/07 @ 13:53
#16
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
My expectancy level is still high.
I never played last years 360 game, but konmi haven't let me down with any version.
The final game is always deep and rewarding, and pretty much the only game that i play almost daily the whole year.
I'm not even a big footy fan, but PES has lots of little touches and animations that make every game feel different, which I can't say for other sports games.
Seabass is god.
KILLA
05/10/07 @ 13:54
#17
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
They should implement a fan running on to the pitch and really hurting Dida...the lame-ass cvnt that he is....effing disgrace to football.


:)
gman7714
05/10/07 @ 13:56
#18
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Mmmm, disconcerting....

Glad I haven't pre-ordered. I'm seriously considering Fifa which prior to PES6 I would of deemed as lunacy.
But not being particularly impressed by either demo I might just have to forego a footy game this season :(

Edited 1 times, most recently on 05/10/07 @ 14:56
Darren
05/10/07 @ 13:56
#19
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
So EG how much better is the PS3 version than the 360 one then? Is it "three times better"? (chuckles)
Steroyd
05/10/07 @ 13:57
#20
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Nelson: HAHA
Steroyd
05/10/07 @ 13:59
#21
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
What the hell is with that passing shooting trigger bullcrap, does Konami want the Xbox 360 to do crap.
sd99
05/10/07 @ 14:14
#22
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
The 360 demo didn't use triggers to pass... plus all buttons in the demo were configurable (I always switch the bumpers and the triggers over).
Sid Nice
05/10/07 @ 14:17
#23
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
The game will be broken with Michael Owen on the box.
monkie_king
05/10/07 @ 14:29
#24
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I think they should spice things up by reintroducing the commentary from the original PS1 ISS Pro - "That boy's got a steel skull!", "He must have lead in his boots today!", and every time anybody got carded: "It's yellow. That's an early bath."

Good times.
sd99
05/10/07 @ 14:29
#25
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Michael Owen? Does that mean we can only play internationals? :)
KingKongBassett
05/10/07 @ 14:30
#26
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
The things that are absolutely rubbish are:

The camera angle for penalties.
The fact that when you dive, the referee orders a freekick to the other team. If the other team gets the ball, play should continue and the ref should book the player the next time play stops. It happens with fouls in PES already, should happen with diving too.

Otherwise, it's alright.
chiz
05/10/07 @ 14:47
#27
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
The more you play it, the more you love it - it's like every other pes that way.

Can't wait!
ulov3
05/10/07 @ 14:54
#28
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Chiz u haven't played any of demos then. The more you play the more u think it is a weak update not worth 40 euros. Sorry I thought saying that fifa is better than pes was science fiction, but this year EA is by far a superior simulation.
Steve007
05/10/07 @ 14:58
#29
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
90% complete with 3 weeks to go? That's bollocks. At this stage, the game will be complete & they'll be ironing out as many bugs as they can before the deadline.
Steroyd
05/10/07 @ 15:11
#30
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
They could always patch it.
Kirly_Wombat
05/10/07 @ 15:13
#31
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
"Perhaps the only serious gripe was the way that players sometimes looked like they were pulling off a pair of pigs with their fists while running."

lmao! What a way with words. Made me laugh though so :)

Personally Im verging toward FIFA this year, but Im scared as thats a new feeling, a duurty feeling :( lol.
Edited 1 times, most recently on 05/10/07 @ 16:14
varsas
05/10/07 @ 15:24
#32
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Ah...so they have re-introduced diving from the old version of Winning Eleven on PS1...
MJ
05/10/07 @ 15:46
#33
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I was always bothered by the fact the keepers only moved if a shot was on target, otherwise they just stand there casually watching the ball - even if its close enough to hit the post.

Has that changed I wonder?

Also, it is Kahn not Khan i think?

KHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
NNNNN!
Edited 1 times, most recently on 05/10/07 @ 16:47
[eSc]Demon
05/10/07 @ 15:50
#34
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Better than Halo then? ;-)
deaner
05/10/07 @ 16:08
#35
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Diving is going to be the most useful thing in the world to me. My housemate has mastered all of the little nudges and bumps, and every last legitimate foul you can use without the ref blowing up.

Now I'll be able to ditch like Robben and whine like Mourinho every time! The balance is restored!

Really just can't wait for this game. I've booked the day off work, have brought my number of controllers up to eight, and so far have nine people coming round for 'PES Day 2008'.

All I need now is for the names/teams/players/pitches/kits patch to be ready on day one, so I'm not stuck playing with 'Trad Bricks' or 'Merseyside Red'!
Nostromo13
05/10/07 @ 16:11
#36
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Oh chris Kamara, your jibba jabber never ceases to amaze me.
d0bbo
05/10/07 @ 16:11
#37
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
The thing that most worried me about the demo was that the ability to go on mazy runs with the top players was far too easy, hope they tone that down a bit.
SeesThroughAll
05/10/07 @ 16:14
#38
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Konami has made Cristiano Ronaldo proud
mcmonkeyplc
05/10/07 @ 16:24
#39
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
8
Razorus
05/10/07 @ 16:58
#40
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
This looks the same as any other football game. I'm no expert, and I know PES is better than other brands, but there is never enough improvement to warrant purchasing the same thing every year.
People can argue the same thing about beat 'em ups. Every iteration is similar to the last but at least they have a story to progress and (sometimes) real changes.
I could never understand the fascination with football games.
Kosmoz
05/10/07 @ 17:31
#41
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I have managed to get away with 1 dive on the 360 demo, my opponent got booked. Also my mate had an AI played dive against him, in the box but the ref caught them.
deaner
05/10/07 @ 18:14
#42
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
I think you're talking bunko, wazzer!

I went to the pre-launch of the FIFA 06 just a few weeks before launch and was playing a code that was less than 90%.

It's simple construction dynamics. You have decide at what point of the Development you'll stop and push out a playable product. 90% is a good mark, but in the time it will have taken for them to test that, add gloss and organise an event to showcase it - they'll already be at 100% and there will have been changes.

Nor to dev's say 'it's not finished' to cover their hides when there are critiques on that code. They say it because you're playing something which has already been changed.

Coming back to the FIFA 06 pre-launch, there was included a lot of features which ad already been taken out by the time anyone played the unfinished version.

As for your comments on 'proper stadiums', clearly you were never enough of a fan to properly patch your copy of any Pro Evo title to give you all of the proper stadiums, etc.

Any anyway, 'genuine footy fans' are more concerned with how much fun they can have in a videogame homage to the beautiful game - than having the right looking badge on a strip that's the right shade of blue.

But as I said, patch your Pro Evo and that's not even an issue!

Don't get me wrong, I love footy games and have played the FIFA 08 demo to death. But I have a much better time on my PS2 version of PES6 (because the XBox version was awful! Short pitch, thick AI, zero responsiveness).

Basically FIFA 08 would have to be a miracle bag to provide half the entertainment that even PES 6 does. If PES 2008 is at least as good as it's predacessor - EA have already lost.

Not that they've been competition for the last 12 years!
thepiedpiper
05/10/07 @ 21:16
#43
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
unfortunately i agree with wazza, pes is now a shell of its former self. pes 6 was an insult, and it's looking like this one hasn't done much to improve upon that.

generally i think that pes is for gamers and fifa is for footy fans. more so now then....
peeetah
05/10/07 @ 23:22
#44
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
"generally i think that pes is for gamers and fifa is for footy fans"

Complete and utter bullshit.
thepiedpiper
06/10/07 @ 00:03
#45
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
"Complete and utter bullshit."

so you're a pes fan then
coastal
06/10/07 @ 00:37
#46
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
there's too much michael owen staring at you on eurogamer right now. bring back spiderman 3.
spadge
06/10/07 @ 03:59
#47
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
3 weeks to go and its 90% complete? Bollocks. Sounds like it's 6 months from retail then if thats the case... If thats what they told you and thats what you believe then fair enough as you've been had. Thats not how things work. "Last minute tweaks" occur 2 months from console release dates - small matter of fact of submission, QA and production of goods, PC tweaks can happen a few weeks prior to release. This game was likely submitted and finished well before the demo went live. PES 2009 then...

Not that I care, I'll still get it...

We have a saying that the last 10% takes 90% of the time, btw.
Edited 3 times, most recently on 06/10/07 @ 05:11
tbl
06/10/07 @ 07:44
#48
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Konami's quote on the box art this year:

"Ten percent of the time, it works - every time"
ulov3
06/10/07 @ 08:40
#49
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Yes PES had done so little evolution that it has become so predictble.

Smart ass that seabass:

new penalty camera but no new penalty system
new commentators but the same commentary
new faces but the same ps2 engine
4 more teams in the masterleague but same old boring structure

The game has so little new to offer that it is not worth buying it this year.
levis
06/10/07 @ 08:43
#50
0
You buried this comment
Comment below viewing threshold
Show
Its all about the gameplay. Also, how are people judging the game already? It hasn't even been released yet. The stuff I read on these forums pains me sometimes.

Comments: 1-50 of 72 in total | next 50 »

Want to comment on this article? Log in, or register!

X View gallery