Orange Box PS3 in December

By Tom Bramwell Published 16 November, 2007

EA confirms to Eurogamer.

Electronic Arts has told Eurogamer today that The Orange Box for PlayStation 3 will be released in Europe next month on 14th December.

Rumours of a slip to 2008 have been tumbling around behind the scenes in the past week, but an EA spokesperson was adamant that it will be released before the end of the year.

The exact date has now been confirmed since we first published this item a few minutes ago. That's how fast things move in the fast-moving world of the Internet, players.

Eurogamer asked Valve to comment on the release date yesterday but was told it was still to-be-confirmed.

The Orange Box PS3 port, handled by EA in the UK, brings Half-Life 2, Episode One, Episode Two, Portal and Team Fortress 2 - all hugely critically acclaimed - to a Sony format for the first time.

In its Xbox 360 and PC incarnations we celebrated it all the way up to 10.

Portal, in particular, stood out as one of the most interesting games of the year, while Team Fortress 2 has already attracted an enormous online following. The latter will be playable online over Sony's PlayStation Network.

Expect an Orange Box PS3 review in the run-up to its December release.

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About Tom Bramwell

Tom is Operations director of Eurogamer Network and Editor-at-Large of Eurogamer.net. He joined the company in February 2000.

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  • JonFE #1 4 years ago

    Orange Box, Haze and Unreal Tournament 3 (to a lesser extend) all racing to meet Christmas season. The PS3 is in for a special FPS Xmas - as long as these are not rushed jobs...

  • mkreku #2 4 years ago

    I would be very surprised if this EA-made Orange Box for the PS3 doesn't suffer from bad-port-abilis.

  • Steroyd #3 4 years ago

    And all 3 lose out to Uncharted.

  • tonynibbles #4 4 years ago

    ..and SingStar :)

    For me, OB is a PC game. I'll be keen to see what it's like on PS3, sure, but I feel bad playing it properly on anything other than a PC.

  • philw #5 4 years ago

    @frod, I think they meant initially they said the 14th, but it was unofficial. Then EA confirmed it as official a couple of minutes after (so still 14th).

  • Ghettomurph #6 4 years ago

    I'll be surprised if this actually surfaces before christmas. It speaks a lot that Valve didnt want to do the game on the PS3 themselves

  • BadBoyBonner #7 4 years ago

    And just how much the people who coded the PS3 version would like to shine.

    Would not be suprised if this is the best version on console.

  • betahoven #8 4 years ago

    Post deleted at 09:36:16 17-12-2011

  • themorganator #9 4 years ago

    PS3 made to wait again. Oh dear.

    Hope the port goes well.

  • Xerx3s #10 4 years ago

    And all 3 lose out to Uncharted.

    Looks indeed like a fantastic game.

  • bdc #11 4 years ago

    That's a rather strange time to release! I guess they just want to tick the 'before 2008' box.

  • dave06 #12 4 years ago

    yawn, old news for us 360 owners, i can buy a game, play it to death, trade it in and be halfway through the sequel before you ps3 fags even get teh demo lol

  • Xerx3s #13 4 years ago

    yeah it says valve are pc developers and the ps3 isn't a pc

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that the console versions where developed by separate console teams of EA. Would only be natural to assume then that the ps3/360 versions where developed by ps3/360 coders.

  • Xerx3s #14 4 years ago

    dave06: Say hi to the other idiots on my ignore list.

  • cyacomini #15 4 years ago

    8

  • Goodfella #16 4 years ago

    yawn, old news for us PC owners, i can buy a game, play it to death, trade it in and be halfway through the sequel before you 360 fags even get teh demo lol

    See what I did there? ;)

    Idiot.

  • stampax #17 4 years ago

    If this turns out to be a decent port it'll finally force me into buying a ps3...... please be good.....

  • Kazzahdrane #18 4 years ago

    Xerx3s:

    Valve developed the PC and Xbox360 versions of Orange Box, only the PS3 version was handled by EA. I think it's fair to worry that the PS3 version might be inferior to the 360 one in this case, though hopefully those fears are unfounded and EA does a Good Job.

  • Goodfella #19 4 years ago

    If this turns out to be a decent port it'll finally force me into buying a ps3...... please be good.....

    Although Valve aren't porting it I dare say they wouldn't allow a shoddy version of their beloved franchise to be released anywhere.

  • SeesThroughAll #20 4 years ago

    The PS3 version will be much worse. Fact.

    Fortunately, I already bought the best version: PC.

    I dare say they wouldn't allow a shoddy version of their beloved franchise to be released anywhere

    The fact that EA are the ones doing it just shows how much they care about the PS3 version of their beloved franchise. Hate, it seems, is stronger.
    Edited by 1 at 16/11/07 @ 13:21

  • Goodfella #21 4 years ago

    Fortunately, I already bought the best version: PC.

    Fortunately, so did I.

  • SeesThroughAll #22 4 years ago

    :)

  • kangarootoo #23 4 years ago

    I would be very surprised if this turned out to be a bad port. It is simply too high profile a title for EA to not focus on. Sony format QA will probably be super picky on it too for the same reason.

  • Garulon #24 4 years ago

    "I would be very surprised if this turned out to be a bad port. It is simply too high profile a title for EA to not focus on."

    HAhahaha. On the PS3? They'll be lucky if it sells 150K copies even if it's visually indistinguishable from the 360 version. Bash it out quick and move those tied-up devs onto profitable Wii and 360 games, that'll be upmost in their minds.

  • Garulon #25 4 years ago

    BTW EG Cheers for reviewing it. Looking forwards to that.

    Specially the comments.

    (cracks knuckles)

  • SeesThroughAll #26 4 years ago

    BTW EG Cheers for reviewing it. Looking forwards to that.

    Specially the comments.

    (cracks knuckles)

    I'm sure EG knows how important it is for you ;)

  • Garulon #27 4 years ago

    Oh yeah, the apologie-baiting alone will be tremendous fun. :)

  • JediMasterMalik #28 4 years ago

    It's true, the best version is the PC version, for all 3 games.

  • monkie_king #29 4 years ago

    any word on what team is doing the port? or are they all just anonymous components of the EA motherbrain now?

    just wondering what exactly happened to renderware after EA's acquisition of criterion. are those guys all working on Burnout now, or have the hardcore engine devs been subsumed into some kind of technical group within EA?

    point being, if they have renderware people on this, i have faith. on the other hand, as garulon mentions, there's little economic incentive to pour vast amounts of capital into the PS3 version, and a dec 14 release date does scream "rush it the fuck through QA in time for Xmas!"

  • monkie_king #30 4 years ago

    JMM: playinggamesonakeyboardlikeits1986lol!

    (i kid, of course - some of my best comments are written on a keyboard).

  • kangarootoo #31 4 years ago

    @Garulon

    I suggest EA are a little more forward thinking that you.

  • m0thr4 #32 4 years ago

    And just how much the people who coded the PS3 version would like to shine.

    Would not be suprised if this is the best version on console.

    That would be the optimistic view.

    The pessimistic view would be that the current build is suffering from dreadful framerate problems and that EA will solve this by using lower resolution textures, reducing the draw distance, turning off a whole load of lighting effects, turning off anti-aliasing, making enemy bodies fade away shortly after you've killed them. After this process, the framerate will still suck compared to the Xbox 360 version, but, by then, the project will be seriously over budget and they will be forced to release it anyway to their guillible, game-starved customers.

    As someone who has owned a PS3 since launch, I already took the pessimistic view and bought an Xbox 360 and a copy of Orange Box to play on it. After all, this is the strategy both EA and Ubisoft (for their Tom Clancy games) have employed for all their PS3 releases so far, so why should they change? PS3 owners will buy the titles anyway and have no idea what they're missing.

  • peterfll #33 4 years ago

    I'm currently playing through the inital (original HL2) game on the 360 and I've been quite surprised at how dated it already feels. I feel it's hardly pushing the hardware. Given this, I expect the PS3 version to be more or less the same as the 360 tbh.

    It's still brilliant, but it does remind you how generally game engines have moved on over the past 3 years.

  • m0thr4 #34 4 years ago

    kangarootoo: I suggest EA are a little more forward thinking that you.

    Really? On what basis?

  • JediMasterMalik #35 4 years ago

    COD4 is identical on both consoles idiot.

  • monkie_king #36 4 years ago

    @peterfll: ah, but the Xbox HL2 was a pale shadow of the PC version, I believe. Some very chunky models in there and they obviously struggled with texture resolution. There's even a whole G-Man appearance missing, where you're supposed to spot him through binoculars on the coast road. On the Xbox, they took that out completely, so it's just one more empty shack being guarded by combine.

    Orange Box is quite a different prospect, what with the HDR and sheer grunt of this generation of consoles.

  • SeesThroughAll #37 4 years ago

    COD4 is identical on both consoles idiot.

    He believed those comparison shots that had low-end PC screenshots labelled as "PS3".

  • Garulon #38 4 years ago

    "@Garulon

    I suggest EA are a little more forward thinking that you. "

    OK, explain the forward-thinking benefits of burning huge quantities of man-hours on a six-week late port to get it visually indistinguishable from the 360 version, vs banging it out with it tearing like a fat man's trousers as it struggles to hit 25fps.

  • cyacomini #39 4 years ago

    @JediMasterMalik

    No it's not.

  • peterfll #40 4 years ago

    I'm talking about playing through the inital HL2 campaign as part of The Orange Box on the 360, not HL2 on the Xbox (original Xbox "1";). Which I also had by the way.

    Anyhow, I didn't buy The Orange Box and expect it to have an engine like COD4, Halo 3 etc. But I was still a little surprised by how dated it still feels.

    The Organge Box HL2 texture resolution and frame rate on the 360 is nothing special by 2007 standards, hence my original comment; how hard can it be to get similar results from the PS3?

    Clearly the PS3 and \ or EA haters will claim its "impossible".

  • monkie_king #41 4 years ago

    peterfll: well in that case i'll shut up. for some reason i completely misread that comment.

    (edit: some reason == leffe)

    (edit again, before Apologie turns up an this thread becomes a car wreck: "how hard can it be to get similar results from the PS3?" -- actually pretty difficult if you're trying to port the engine straight over, and treating the PS3 as if it had a normal CPU architecture. Either they're spending the extra time radically reengineering the Source engine from the ground up around data parallelization to make the PS3 version really shine, or they're desperately trying to hack bits out to get the framerate up. This is EA. But really, we won't know until either way until we see it. Benefit of the doubt and all that).
    Edited by 2 at 16/11/07 @ 15:03

  • peterfll #42 4 years ago

    No worries love! ;-)

    I was speeding through the canals last night on my airboat and the sun was setting and it did look rather lovely still. Haven't seen much evidence of HDR etc, but I haven't started on Episode 1 or 2 yet so don't know if they'll look a bit more fancy.

    I will say Portal looks very basic for what essentially is a very simple graphical game by, again, 2007 standards. It's lots of fun though.

  • JediMasterMalik #43 4 years ago

    @cyacomini - Give me a link which claims otherwise with proof. All comparisons I've seen show it being identical.

  • JediMasterMalik #44 4 years ago

    What's the difference?
    Edited by 1 at 16/11/07 @ 15:30

  • NotSoSlim #45 4 years ago

    Games look the same i have played both.

    If you are totally anal you can pick a little things. Like the lihting here is better blah blah blah
    Edited by 1 at 16/11/07 @ 16:14

  • Garulon #46 4 years ago

    "If you are totally anal you can pick a little things. Like the lihting here is better blah blah blah "

    Yeah, what's hilarious is a number of fanbois are using CoD4 as some kind of victory for the PS3 - "Look, it's the same as the 360 version!" Er, OK it was supposed to be twice as powerful, but well done. Clap clap clap.

  • AOFanboi #47 4 years ago

    <em>Yeah, what's hilarious is a number of fanbois are using CoD4 as some kind of victory for the PS3 - "Look, it's the same as the 360 version!" Er, OK it was supposed to be twice as powerful, but well done. Clap clap clap.</em>

    You know, Xbot, if you wonder what to do while waiting for the replacement for your RRoD-ed console, try reading a book instead of trolling PS3 discussions.

    Countering wild claims that COD4 has worse textures on PS3 than the 360 is "using it as some kind of victory"? You are sad.
    Edited by 1 at 16/11/07 @ 16:28

  • Garulon #48 4 years ago

    "You know, Xbot, if you wonder what to do while waiting for the replacement for your RRoD-ed console, try reading a book instead of trolling PS3 discussions."

    Is that what you PS3 fanbois do while you're waiting for all those botched 360 ports to finally arrive?

    "Countering wild claims that COD4 has worse textures on PS3 than the 360 is "using it as some kind of victory"? You are sad. "

    Um, I agreed with him. Good to know those reaction times are still hyper fast!

  • Garulon #49 4 years ago

    Y'know, considering how bad the framerate on your console is normally and everything.

  • JediMasterMalik #50 4 years ago

    Garulon, you're just as bad as the fanboys you're calling out.

  • Big_Cheese #51 4 years ago

    Garulon, STFU.
    The PS3 is merely a year out, and the games for it are already better than your Xbox.
    Where the poor Xbox struggles to keep up with tricks (reduced resolution), the PS3 isn't breaking a sweat!
    I know that this is very difficult to admit, but you better get used to it!

  • JediMasterMalik #52 4 years ago

    Seriously, the lot of you, shut your idiotic traps.

  • dllord #53 4 years ago

    "Goodfella" yawn, old news for us PC owners, i can buy a game, play it to death, trade it in and be halfway through the sequel before you 360 fags even get teh demo lol

    See what I did there? ;)

    Idiot.

    You forgot the fact that HL2:EP2, Portal and TF2 were actually released for the 360 and PC at the same time! So you have no point really!


  • GamesConnoisseur #54 4 years ago

    Second JMM

    The egg could easily fall on either of the oppositing positions's faces. Okay yes there are previous examples where PS3 has come off slightly worse (almost always hardly noticeable to the unaware player) AND the given expectation that portings will eventually get better such as PS3's COD4 (I ve seen both versions and yes both looking so great).

    All the 'no your console stinks', 'no its yours' and so on is boring us to death!

    Fair game to give mature opinions on the ACTUAL release BUT for god's sake we cannot judge what is not yet available until 14th Dec (or demo release)!

    TO all PS3 owners, I honest to god, hope that The Orange Box by EA will be at least equal to X360 as its too good a package to be experienced only by PC/X360. I tell you get it on whatever platform! I acknowledge that PC is superior of all but despite having Ninja PC, I do prefer the comfy armchair and HDTV via console.


    EDIT: Just seen the IGN.com head to head comparsion of Assassin Creed for PS3 and 360#

    "Overall
    In my opinion, smaller features like controller vibration and Achievement Points are not enough to give a game first place over other versions of the same title. However, in this case the frame rate issues on PS3 are enough to put the 360 version ahead. If you play each version in quick succession like I have, the disparity is obvious and does affect how enjoyable the experience is. As I stated earlier in the article, we already know the PS3 is capable of matching (and probably topping) 360's performance. We're just waiting to see it happen in more cross platform releases. "

    So here I am repeating my hope that EA's The Orange Box will be 'COD4' quality.
    Edited by 2 at 16/11/07 @ 18:56

  • TriggerHippie #55 4 years ago

    The delay is down to EA's "Xtreme" additions. Some bright spark also noticed the Trax playlist and commentator could be more annoying. Poochie with a Grav Gun. I love you EA.
    Edited by 1 at 17/11/07 @ 11:18

  • m0thr4 #56 4 years ago

    The PS3 is merely a year out, and the games for it are already better than your Xbox.
    Where the poor Xbox struggles to keep up with tricks (reduced resolution), the PS3 isn't breaking a sweat!
    I know that this is very difficult to admit, but you better get used to it!

    Good grief, you must be living in a parallel universe to me then.

    I own both consoles and I haven't seen a single crossplatform game on the PS3 that manages to achieve the same or better frame rate as the Xbox 360 version, with one exception: Colin McRae Dirt... but they achieved that by reducing the draw distance and switching off some lighting and motion blur effects. Nevertheless, I did buy and keep that one, because framerate is particularly important for a driving game.

    And that's the best example - every other crossplatform game has struggled on the PS3. The only other games I have for my PS3 are Oblivion, Motorstorm and Resistance. Oblivion may have better graphics, longer draw distance and shorter loading times, but the frame rate is never smooth compared to the 360 version.

    Rainbow Six on the PS3 was a complete joke. I could live with the rough-looking textures and the lack of anti-aliasing, but enemies disappearing within seconds of being shot? The same happens in GRAW2 - you have a massive firefight, massacre a whole load of enemies, but when you walk through the battlefield to survey your handiwork, there's nothing there. Crap.

    EA's latest sports games - 60fps on the Xbox 360, 30fps on the PS3 with reduced graphics. So let's see what they do with Orange Box... I have low expectations already.

    If the Xbox 360's only trick is to reduce the overall resolution very slightly, but then scale it up to 720p flawlessly, I would take that in preference to the aforementioned 'tricks' they use in PS3 ports.

    So where are these better PS3 games? The four that I own? The platform game that got lower reviews than expected? The one that looks like the bastard lovechild of Tomb Raider and Gears of War? The one that the developers have now admitted was up and running on the Xbox 360 last Spring, thereby crushing any idea that the PS3 was the lead platform?

    My PS3 awaits... but I haven't switched it on since I bought an Xbox 360 three weeks ago.

  • cyacomini #57 4 years ago

    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\

    Best post this year!

  • Big_Cheese #58 4 years ago

    @m0thr4

    You are clearly an Xbot and don't give me that shit that "i own a PS3"

    "the platform game that got lower reviews than expected"
    Yeah... it hurts looking at what a PS3 can do right? The game is brilliant and the reviews were great - have you checked it on Metacritic?
    "The one that looks like the bastard lovechild of Tomb Raider and Gears of War?" Hah hahaa you dare make such comments for the brilliant Uncharted... shame on you, i suspect that you are a bit bitter that your lovely Xbox cannot do all this stuff that this game does, right?
    "The one that the developers have now admitted was up and running on the Xbox 360 last Spring, thereby crushing any idea that the PS3 was the lead platform? "
    Yeah, you're right... PS3 is not the leading platform, that's why the Xbox version will be out first... hey wait a second...

    Thanks.

  • klixman #59 4 years ago

    Oh my!

  • captainrentboy #60 4 years ago

    All this rage and fury over a big lump of plastic that plays video games. You've got to wonder how real world issues, y'know actual important things,(Relationships, Mortgages, Jobs, Children, y'know?) affect these people in their day to day lives, or are console wars actually the most important part? :/......
    Raaaaaaaa, 360 rulllleeeeezzzzz!!!!

  • m0thr4 #61 4 years ago

    @Big_Cheese

    LOL! Did I just make you cry there? Of course I own a PS3... that's why I'm so bitter. As I said before, I only bought an Xbox 360 three weeks ago, whereas I've owned a PS3 since launch. That hardly makes me an Xbot.

    EDIT: Here's a picture of my PS3 and Xbox 360 sitting side by side. As you can plainly see, the Xbox 360 is chuckling to itself with a big smug grin on its face.

    What is less obvious from the picture is that the PS3 is crying because I don't play with him anymore.
    Edited by 4 at 17/11/07 @ 17:44

  • Big_Cheese #62 4 years ago

    @m0thr4
    What a load of bull...

    I've shot down each and every one of your silly arguments, so you had nothing to respond i guess.

    "the Xbox 360 is chuckling to itself with a big smug grin on its face. "
    I'd really suggest a psychiatrist for your case...

    You are so biased towards your Xbox that i really don't want to add another word. Good luck with it, you are going to need it actually considering the bad quality of the hardware :p

    edit: You actually managed to edit your post 4 times??? wow... no need to prove who's getting nervous.
    Edited by 1 at 17/11/07 @ 20:42

  • Ryze #63 4 years ago

    Oooooh - I really can't wait to see if this turns out to be well PS3 optimised, or simply rushed out in time for Christmas.

    Will be an interesting test of EA's ethos, and the current state of mainstream game development on the PS3.

    /waits...

  • m0thr4 #64 4 years ago

    @Big_Cheese

    So you were actually expecting me to respond to your initial rant? Oh well allow me to retort...

    You are clearly an Xbot and don't give me that shit that "i own a PS3"

    If by Xbot you mean I currently believe the Xbox 360 has the better share of decent games, that every crossplatform game looks and plays better on the Xbox 360, and that the Xbox 360 might actually be the more powerful machine for the purpose of playing video games, then yes... you have me banged to rights. But I do own a PS3 and am happy to prove it to you by whatever means you request (although hopefully the picture of it sitting in my living room under the TV already did that).

    "the platform game that got lower reviews than expected"
    Yeah... it hurts looking at what a PS3 can do right? The game is brilliant and the reviews were great - have you checked it on Metacritic?

    Well obviously what hurts is looking at what my PS3 seems incapable of doing... but I was massively disappointed with Ratchet and Clank's linear gameplay. To be honest, I didn't think the eye candy was anything that special either. And I don't see what reviews have to do with it when I've already borrowed it, played it and made up my own mind.


    "The one that looks like the bastard lovechild of Tomb Raider and Gears of War?" Hah hahaa you dare make such comments for the brilliant Uncharted... shame on you, i suspect that you are a bit bitter that your lovely Xbox cannot do all this stuff that this game does, right?

    Again, no, because I own a PS3.so why would I be bitter. But how did you know I was talking about Uncharted? You obviously recognised it well enough from my description. I didn't even say whether I liked or disliked it - I was simply commenting that, from what I've played and seen, the gameplay is highly derivative. I have no idea what you mean by "all this stuff that this game does" - I've been playing the demo from the US PSN store and I didn't see anything that would be impossible on the Xbox 360. In fact, didn't one of the Naughty Dog developers admit as much in an interview just yesterday? The graphics do look better than anything else I've seen on the PS3, but the outdoor environments are far too clean and lurid, as if everything is made of plastic. The shadow/lighting effects in the very first bit of the demo just look wrong. Maybe they were going for a cartoon look or something, but I found it a bit distracting. However, overall, it seemed quite fun - I may actually buy it.


    "The one that the developers have now admitted was up and running on the Xbox 360 last Spring, thereby crushing any idea that the PS3 was the lead platform? "
    Yeah, you're right... PS3 is not the leading platform, that's why the Xbox version will be out first... hey wait a second...

    If you read the article properly, you will see that the developers deliberately halted development on the Xbox 360 and PC versions to spend extra time getting the PS3 version up to scratch. At no point to they make any comment as to which was the lead platform. The said that all three platforms were able to run the game back in Spring... therefore any of the three could have been the original lead platform - not necessarily the PS3. Do you see?

    As for the number of edits in my post... I simply wanted to add a picture to show you that I do own a PS3... and then I added the stuff about the Xbox smiling/PS3 crying... good grief, that was simply meant as a humorous attempt to lighten the mood. I can quite understand how someone who's only owned a PS3 for the last few months might have lost their sense of humour though, so no hard feelings there...

  • Big_Cheese #65 4 years ago

    @m0thr4

    Excuse me, but Uncharted, Rachet and Clank are brilliant no matter what you say.

    Also, i believe that PS3 is a great console that deserves to do well.
    The problem is that judging from your posts, you find NOTHING good on the PS3.
    If this is really your opinion then i don't think that you'll enjoy it no matter what games are released for it.
    I may have over-reacted, but i'm sick and tired of seeing my favorite console getting such an unjustified bashing.
    Sorry if i was a little rough. Your latest response show an intelligent person, although with a weird taste in consoles and games.
    Edited by 1 at 18/11/07 @ 02:14

  • zedzee #66 4 years ago

    @ Big_Cheese & m0thr4:

    You guys are reflecting some typical responses that PS3 and X360 owners are throwing at each other at the moment.

    I really don't mind the "mine is better than yours" that much, I suppose. Everyone is entitled to have their say and counter someone else's opinion with intelligent, supported and evident FACTS. Besides, it's a bit of fun that has been enjoyed over several decades, so I don't see a problem with that.

    I agree with many points that both of you guys are making and sympathise with the X360 owners having hardware issues (that hopefully Microsoft will fix with newer designs of the console), while PS3 owners are criticising various multi-platform releases (such as PES2008, Assasin's Creed, EA games in general etc.) Visit threespeech.com for some really interesting views from PS3 owners.

    Don't you guys think, though, that all of this is due to the facts that both Sony and Microsoft have not really handled this generation of consoles very well?

    While Nintendo is shying away from making 'traditional' games altogether, I think they've pushed themselves out of the market, without Sony of Microsoft having to do it. How difficult will it be for them to release a future console and what will that console be like - same as Revolution or back to 'conventional' again?

    Microsoft are not doing themselves a favour with a high hardware failure rate ( the cost of releasing a new console early to beat the competition) and having many of their 'exclusives' shared with the PC. While Sony, just can't bring themselves to please their UK/Euro fan-base with an on-time console launch, a decently competitive price tag and providing something that all PlayStation loyal fans have come to expect from their beloved consoles; backwards compatibility.

    I own a PS2 and PS only, I'm not a Microsoft fan and have never been, I just don't subscribe to Nintendo's (or Sega's in the past) way of doing consoles and games and I simply cannot bring myself to buy a "crippled" PS3.

    But I can see a great deal of animosity here that's created by the failure of console vendors and games developers alike, overspilling into the consumer arena and making many gamers disgruntled and dismayed by the lazy and greedy efforts going around in the industry at present, which is distracting and disappointing.


  • Trane #67 4 years ago

    "Excuse me, but Uncharted, Rachet and Clank are brilliant no matter what you say.

    Also, i believe that PS3 is a great console that deserves to do well.
    The problem is that judging from your posts, you find NOTHING good on the PS3.
    If this is really your opinion then i don't think that you'll enjoy it no matter what games are released for it.
    I may have over-reacted, but i'm sick and tired of seeing my favorite console getting such an unjustified bashing."

    You have the cheek to call others fanboys or 'x-bots' then spout this, possibly the most overly biased fanboy post I've ever set my eyes upon.

    To be fair to m0thr4 he does make a valid argument, then you slate him and call him a liar purely because it upsets you and doesn't buy into your ps3 ideal, how playground of you.

    And before you go slating me as a fanboy/x-bot I'm a PC gamer with a view to picking up one of the consoles maybe in the new year, hence why I enjoy these slagging matches without getting too bothered myself.

  • drxym #68 4 years ago

    I don't have high hopes for Orange Box on the PS3. While the console should have absolutely no problem running the game, I feel like Valve dumped a million lines of DirectX crap onto EA and said "there you go port that". With Gabe Newell badmouthing the PS3 everytime he opens his pie hole, I feel like the PS3 port is seen as some unwanted contractual obligation to EA. I am not expecting much more than a port and not a very good one. I also feel that if is that bad that Gabe will blame the PS3 again rather than the actual developers responsible or his own pissing into the wind attitude for the mess.

    Now maybe EA will confound expectations and the port will be fantastic but I really, really want to see some previews and reviews before I am prepared to change my mind.

  • m0thr4 #69 4 years ago

    @zedzee

    I agree completely. I've been playing video games since the late 70's and this is the worst generation of machines so far.

    The Xbox 360 is merely the best of a very bad bunch. After seeing 3 of my previous Xbox 360's break down, I vowed back in February this year that I would never buy anything from Microsoft ever again.

    Sadly, the PS3 did not turn out to be the panacea I hoped it would be. I love the machine - it's sleek and quiet where the Xbox 360 is ugly and noisy... but the vast majority of its games are poor cast-offs and I don't think Orange Box is going to be an exception...

    EDIT: ...especially for the reaons drxym has given above ^^^
    Edited by 1 at 19/11/07 @ 10:34

  • m0thr4 #70 4 years ago

    The problem is that judging from your posts, you find NOTHING good on the PS3.
    Not true. I love the design, and I love the fact that it's quiet. There's some good downloadable content (I love Warhawk) and the 4 disc-based games that I still have, I enjoy... yes, even Resistance (once it gets going).

    I downloaded the demos for Timeshift and Need for Speed Pro Street last night from the US PSN store and was staggered to find that they seem to be identical to the Xbox 360 demos I've already played (although maybe someone with a keener eye will correct me). This is encouraging.

    I think the PS3 has a great future... eventually... some time in mid 2008.
    Edited by 1 at 19/11/07 @ 10:46

  • Olemak #71 4 years ago

    I am looking forward to finging out what NCsoft has planned for the PS3 - whatever it is, that is something the 360 can't duplicate. You can't have a MMORPG on a console with no hard drive. City of Heroes would be brilliant for a console, and doable too, as NCsoft now owns the entire IP and the studio making it, but I guess maybe Guild Wars is just as likely.

  • m0thr4 #72 4 years ago

    This will come as no surprise to many...

    [link url=http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/action/ halflife2episode2/news.html?sid=6183470&om_act=convert&om_cl k=multimodule&tag=multimodule;picks;title;10
    ]The Orange Box: Hands-On With the PS3 Version[/link]
    Edited by 1 at 02/12/07 @ 19:03