Burnout Revenge
Less icons, more iconic?
Here's an email yours truly recently received from a friend-of-a-friend who is also a mother (altogether: aww), and sometimes asks about what she should buy for her son:
"Hiya. Cheers for the cosplay links [er, unrelated - Ed]. Now then, I try not to ask you too many questions about games, but he's on about another one now - something called Burnout Revenge. He wants to know when it's out, and I want to know whether I should buy it for him. Can you help?"
So, in order to kill two birds with one stone (just to clarify, that's a figure of speech; killing young mothers is wrong and you shouldn't do it), here is a response that served the reply-mail well enough, and gives you all an idea of what we make of Burnout Revenge:
"Hello! Burnout Revenge is out on PS2 and Xbox on September 16th. The Xbox one will probably look a whole lot sharper. As to whether you should buy it for him... We-he-heelll...
"Like the other three (he really should play 2 and 3 in particular if he hasn't already), it's about driving very fast and there are modes that involve racing hell-for-leather without hitting things, and others that involve racing just as fast with the express purpose of hitting things. Some modes treat car accidents as little pins to pop your excitement bubble, while others treat them as jackhammers to pound fun into your head. And, for as long as they avoid having people flying through the windscreen, there's no reason to think it's at all wrong or nasty; it's like a big car play set - except with pyrotechnics too. This one goes faster, looks prettier, and blurs the lines between those two modes. He'll like it, because everyone does.
"But, on the off-chance you're actually after a fairly detailed run-through of its individual features and improvements over Burnout 3, along with a degree of personal opinion based on the preview build of the game we've had in the office recently, let's continue, by way of a short history lesson!
"Burnout 2 - the series' first truly big success - was very black and white. Well, it was very bright-colour and other-bright-colour anyway. You could race around very fast and you got the benefit of a huge speed-boost for racing into oncoming traffic and destroying things, but the goal was to win races without crashing too much. The attendant Crash mode turned that idea on its head somewhat; faced with a particular traffic junction, you had to try and earn as many points as possible by picking a line to race into the junction and involving as many cars as possible in the ensuing pile-up.
Parallel parking is HARD, alright?
"Burnout 3 took this and dressed it all up in sparkling threads. There were some issues with the interface and the way the online mode worked (at least to some eyes and routers), but it certainly gave people more of the same, which was arguably what they wanted. Everything was bigger, faster, and offered more obvious routes to its hidden depths. Burnout 2's Crash junctions, for example, could deliver high scores many millions of points in excess of what people saw when they first started playing, but you had to dig deep for them, experimenting endlessly even when you thought you'd done as well as possible. Burnout 3 introduced a great many more junctions, and threw in multipliers and other score-shifting icons to Crash mode, which allowed players to reap huge rewards relatively easily - but at the cost of tethering the player to a particular path through the junction. Stray too far and you couldn't get to the 4x multiplier, for example, which could defeat the point of any insane brilliance you were demonstrating through common methods elsewhere in the scenario - and you wanted to avoid the heartbreaker score-ruiner at all costs.
"In some senses, Burnout Revenge goes back to basics. Crash is a good place to start. Multipliers, heartbreakers - this sort of stuff is all gone. Instead you have to concentrate on starting at top speed using a golf-game-style swing-o-meter (tap once to start, once more to try and get a peak speed, and once more in the sweet spot to release the brakes at the best moment - dicing with the twin dangers of stalling or blowing the engine on the start) and then plough into traffic with greater freedom. This is better, at first glance, although there is one element that might divide - the need to try and hit a 'Target vehicle', which comes in from a particular place. Do this and you do much better. It is a bit like trying to get to a 4x multiplier, but it is the only thing to make a beeline for, so it feels like there are less waypoints to hit on the way through a junction; there is a goal, but you can choose your path. We like that.
For the bloke who was in front of us the other day: evidence of what happens when you change lanes without indicating.
"Of the various icons you could hit in Burnout 3's Crash mode, one idea that survives is 'Crash-breaker', but its use here is quite different - now it's something that your initial impact builds you up to. When a meter fills up thanks to all your destruction, you can hammer a button repeatedly to power-up the crash-breaker, which then causes a massive explosion that launches you into the air - at which point you're free to use another of Burnout 3's surviving ideas, Aftertouch, to direct your car's path as it comes down to land and hopefully make an impact on other vehicles.
"Crash mode isn't the only area that's seen attention. Racing still demands that you build up boost by dodging cars closely, racing into oncoming traffic and so on, but it also rewards you for clipping vehicles. Slamming into one will still cause you to crash (holding you up and potentially letting others past, even if you can use Aftertouch to steer your wreckage into their path) and ramming into rival racers to force them to crash still gives you 'Takedown' bonuses, but if you clip the back of a small car you no longer crash. Instead, the other car careens off in another direction. EA calls this 'checking' - hockey-style. Clipping something into a junction can create a huge pile-up - and doing it cleverly can be used to block the path of your rivals as they roar along behind you.
Potential fart-joke material there.
"There's a whole new mode to take advantage of this clipping too, called Traffic Attack. This is a bit demented. You basically have to cause damage by clipping - and each additional vehicle wrecked without wrecking yours will keep your timer alive. Complete a lap and your score multiplies, but you won't complete many if you don't clip cars into dodgy situations. It's a nice idea - and we look forward to seeing how it's developed.
"Other modes are Eliminator and Road Rage. Eliminator involves a six-man race where the last car is eliminated at intervals - thankfully over set periods of time and not just over laps, on this occasion - while Road Rage is about taking an old EA bike game and delivering it to the one chap on eBay who still gives a damn. Also (and without lying this time), it's about destroying as many computer-controlled cars as possible.
"Beyond that, there are the overarching changes. There's a new 'Revenge' meter (well, every EA game needs a good gimmick, right?), which is about pouring death and destruction upon those who cause you grief. For bonuses, of course. And there are locations 'inspired' by Detroit, Rome and Tokyo. There's online play, too - something we'll be investigating more in the near future. And there are the graphical updates.
Now how is anybody meant to race with so many laser beams on the track?
"Now, Burnout 2 looked lovely. Very shiny, very colourful, kind of 'tech-demo-y' - but stylish in a way of its own. Burnout 3 was a bit grittier, with bigger explosions and greater levels of car deformation. Burnout Revenge continues along this logical path toward the next-generation of game graphics (some evidence of which we saw in a game called Full Auto on Xbox 360 at E3 this year; although we doubt that'll have anything to rival Burnout's smashing-Crashing ideas), with far more detailed textures, car designs and complex scenery (including lots of destructible environmental elements), and the level of deformation is great. There used to be trucks with logs stacked on top of them? The logs now fall off. Buses and lorries no longer crumple a bit; they act like concertinas being squelched by the flabby arms of well-fed buskers. And the explosions radiate warmth like a particularly sentimental Elton John track. Like that one about Tony Danza, to fall back on an old Friends joke.
"'Balance' is a word we'll be considering a great deal as we close in on Burnout Revenge's release date, of course, but the signs are good. 'Brown' is another one, judging by the palette - although we expect things to liven up a bit visually once we get out of the muddy old Detroit. But we'll definitely be taking a close interest in Burnout Revenge, because for all the pretenders there still isn't a whole lot else that comes close - and developer Criterion wants things to stay that way."
So anyway, yours truly sent that explanation off to his mothering chum, and this was the response:
"Ok, thanks."
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/intrigued
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You'd get some real fun replays with that.
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Are you a mother too then Tom?
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Hoping 4 has best of both worlds, if not i'll stick with 2 (dont have many friends).
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may I suggest a shower?
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Kristan, any chance of a review for winning eleven 9 on import ?? Want to know what to expect from the next pro evo............................. pretty please !
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It looks gorgeous, the gfx fly by at awesome speeds too. But I have a feeling something is wrong with the driving, the skill seems to have been taken away... Yes there are numerous short cuts and little trick ramps and stuff, but now when you hit the traffic, rather than crashing, the traffic spins out causing an obstacle to be avoided by your opponents. You get traffic takedowns now. So now, youre racing an loony speeds but kinda ignoring what the traffic is doing - because if you do hit it, it may actually help you out. Its becomeing more and more like Tony Hawks in cars, rather than racing
For me B2 > B3 > B1
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Grrr.
Yeah, Winning Eleven 9 review please. Or I can do one, don't want to embarrass EG with my sublime gameplay videos though (on 1 star, naturally).
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People that don't own Ico with art cards shouldn't even be allowed to voice their opinion on a gaming forum. And it still wouldn't be elitist, just reasonable.
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Playing Burnout 2 after 3 is like a walk in the park. No cheating cars mean your hard-earned driving skills from no. 3 shine.
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Take your fingerprint-blemished art cards elsewhere.
/dons white all-overs to enter climate controlled, particle-free, air-locked, art card viewing booth.
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"the skill seems to have been taken away... Yes there are numerous short cuts and little trick ramps and stuff, but now when you hit the traffic, rather than crashing, the traffic spins out causing an obstacle to be avoided by your opponents. You get traffic takedowns now. So now, youre racing an loony speeds but kinda ignoring what the traffic is doing -"
This single feature compeltely changes the feel of the game, and the preview is lax for not drawing attention to it more - 'checking' isn't clipping from the side (which would take a modicum of skill to time properly) it's just ramming an NPC car square from behind, which then flies off with obviously bodged physics - it's more like Midnight Bleedin Club 3...
As an extra mode it would be fine for a optional giggle but its all the way through the game now..
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But the single mode the Demo gives you deffinately feels dumbed down. Its all about the flashy sparks and take downs and aftertouches and crashbreakers, and little to do with the actual driving.
Fingers crossed Criterion balance the flashness vs the racing before it ships. Prolly still get it - it looks stunningly gorgeous and me= gfx wh0re
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I thought that in BO3,2 avoiding the public cars was a major part of the game. Straining, unblinking, to recognise which pixels were headlights and which were sun glare, then twitching the stick to avoid/drive through said pixels was the core gameplay IMHO. Simply having to stick to the road wasn't really what is was about for me, as you travelled at much higher speeds avoiding traffic on straight sections than you did scooting round the (relatively) unpopulated twisties.
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Did you ever play Burnout 3? Cos this happened in that game as well...
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Oi!
Burnout 3 sits happily alongside my Ico (with art cards y'wippersnapper!) I'll have ye know.
Scallywag.
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Having actually played through a review build of the game over the week-end, the graphics are no less bright and shiny in some locations compared to part 3, and they actually managed to balance the whole traffic-crashing stuff quite well... wouldn't have though so after getting an earlier preview build just a week ago that still had some noticable problems in that regard.
People who prefer B2 over B3 most likely won't be big fans of B4 either, the focus on action instead of racing certainly has intensified.
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That feeling wasn't as strong in Burnout 2, and it felt more like cruising. Burnout 3 had even less of that, and now Burnout 4 seems to completely remove what I felt the original Burnout was all about. Now it's more like an SSX meets Need For Speed.
I already played the first three in the series and I probably will play this one too. But my expectations have been lowered a lot. The last two have just felt so much more shallow than the first.
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I'm quite puzzled by the Out Run comparison, simply because in that one, I'd never had to fear being blindsided by some car I couldn't even see on a crossroad.
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it does stop playing altogether. once you've made a few saves or something.
b3 is one of my favourite games and i'm still plugging away at it. hankering for the 100%. i've completed nearly everything except 3 or so preview/burning laps and the us circuit racer GP ... which is just barking.
i just downloaded the demo of b4 to give it a whirl and well ... my impressions are mixed. love the speed, and the new track designs (shortcuts, jumps and multilevel shenanigans) but this traffic checking is a little muddled ...
whithin the flow of traffic, ramming a truck or bus leaves you upside the nearest wall but the nudging & shunting while possible should trade off slightly in damaging your car a bit. the oncoming still requires the nippy reflexes though which is good.
time will tell ... hopefully they don't shaft it right up :/
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B3 is more fun for the crashing while driving thing. Fuck the racing. It's all about take downs. It's good in that respect.
If Revenge elaborates on that, I won't mind at all. Knocking traffic into opponents will definately make the rules feel more consistent (rather than, knock an opponent = you win. Knock a civilian = you lose) so I'm looking forward to it.
I'm actually really happy that each burnout has its own distinct feel. Although, no0-one has much love for BO1. Awww.
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then again, ill probably still get it
ps. (B3 kicks B2's ass)
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I hope they have taken this out of Revenge as otherwise I can see me not buying this!
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But I suppose if anyone can do it...
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I sit down for ONE GAME, and I spend 50 HOURS PLAYING IT.
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I won't be spending Ģ30 on this. It's more of an update than anything (hard to believe coming from EA, I know
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I HATED the crash mode in B3 (that does not, of course, mean that I am not having goes at it even now) - too many icons, coins, floaty things, etc. I loved the more open crash mode in BO2.
What worries me is that they are taking away the element which won the game numerous 'Arcade Racer of the Year' awards - namely, Arcade Racing. Hey guys, keep in mind that this is a RACING game first. Checking traffic worries me - I loved the challenge when you rammed into traffic and stopped dead. It even made sense - civilian cars were much heavier and much slower, so it was only logical you would grind to a halt. As for your opponents, they were cars similar to yours moving more or less at your speeds, so they WERE liable to crash when you hit them. Einstein at your service.
Apparently, now you can pretty much plough through without EVER hitting the directional analog stick, since already you could pretty much accelerate around most corners steered by the trackside arrows and pavements in BO3. Somehow, a racing game where you can approach a 90 degree corner at 205 mph and still get steered around by blinking arrows doesn't make sense to me.
It appears that Criterion have gone totally EA now. Even Need for Speed is less forgiving.
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I really donīt get the realism argument though. Itīs an arcade racer, so I donīt expect or even want reality in there. Besides, nobody seems to worry about realism in the myriad of sci-fi, fantasy or horror games. Which is perfectly fine, since itīs all about creating a fun game to play. And to me, B3 is easily the most fun to play console game Iīve played yet, and Iīm usually not too fond of racing games myself. Micro Machines and friends exempted.
That checking thing sounds a bit strange, but it all depends how they implement it in the final version (please bear in mind that everyoneīs only seen demos so far). If in the end you can plugh through any traffic going in your direction, then thatīd be silly, but the idea itself sounds pretty nice to me.
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Burnout 4 is the dogs.
Mate if you still want to bang on about a game that came out over 2 years ago then continue to do so elsewhere, it WAS a great game, but did it have midair collisions? jumps? the ability to smash oncoming traffic into opponents? An onboard bomb? No it didn't. This game is going to be the fuckin Daddy!
Purists (or wankers) who want to play BO 2 or 1, Fuck off and do so and stop wasting everyone elses time.
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