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Disgaea DS Review

DS Review by Dan Whitehead

22 April, 2009

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Your reaction to this latest offering from the Disgaea series will depend on your previous exposure to Nippon Ichi's deliciously daft world. If you played the original Disgaea: Hour of Darkness on the PS2, or its 2006 PSP port, Afternoon of Darkness, you'll probably be saying "Oh, it's you again, you haven't changed much." Because, really, it hasn't. This is exactly the same as the PSP version in almost every respect with only a few minor changes - the loss of the Japanese audio track, for example - to accommodate the smaller memory of the DS cartridge.

However, if you've never played Disgaea before - entirely likely given the series is a quintessential example of a critically acclaimed Japanese cult that has sunk without trace in the west - your reaction will hopefully be, "Ooh, you look interesting, what do you do?"

What it does is strategic role-playing in the style of Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem and Tactics Ogre. Our hero is Laharl, a demon of the Netherworld who wakes from a two-year nap to learn his father, overlord of this hellish domain, has died. Various demons are now battling to fill the power vacuum and Laharl, outraged that people are squabbling over his birthright, sets off with brattish arrogance to secure his throne.

'Disgaea DS' Screenshot 1

All enemies have their own distinct names - the sort of pointless yet charming touch that makes Disgaea stand out.

Unlike the free-roaming worlds of traditional JRPGs, the story unfolds in a series of standalone confrontations played out on a grid of squares. Each character can usually move and attack once per turn, or use an inventory item, or pick up and throw an ally, enemy or object.

The aim is to defeat all the enemies on the map, and as the game progresses this task becomes more and more complex, requiring a level of tactical thinking and forward planning that belies the game's playful presentation.

Adding an extra layer of brainwork are Geo Panels. These coloured squares offer various enhancements or bonuses to whoever stands on them, and checking the map beforehand for tactical advantages soon becomes essential. There may, for example, be a thin line of panels that grant additional attack strength, and a shrewd player would entrench their characters along that line and wait for the enemy to come to them.

Equally, you may need to evict enemies from GeoPanels that make them harder to defeat. You can do this by grabbing them and throwing them somewhere else, and throwing one enemy into another creates a hybrid character, tougher to beat but worth more XP for the trouble.

Geo Panels are powered by Geo Symbols, which add their benefits to whichever coloured panel they're sitting on. Symbols can be picked up and moved, allowing you to alter the bonus layout of the map, or destroyed, in which case the relevant Geo Panels also get destroyed, damaging whoever is standing on them.

'Disgaea DS' Screenshot 2

Prinny Commentary offers an additional layer of oddball comedy to the dialogue scenes. Dood.

On some maps, it's entirely possible to wipe out the enemy forces through cunning manipulation and destruction of Geo Symbols alone - racking up enormous combo scores in the process.

You can probably already see the intricate tapestry of overlapping effects that make Disgaea so beloved by its fans. It soon becomes clear that there are few areas of the game where an extra intriguing element hasn't been overlaid on top of the expected RPG mechanics. This depth doesn't just exist on the battlefield, but is laced through the game at every level.

To begin with, you're accompanied only by Etna, the character who waked Laharl from his sleep, and her Prinny Squad, a trio of truculent penguin warriors with a fondness for the word "dood". As the story progresses other characters drop in and out of the narrative, but you can also bolster your ranks by visiting the Dark Assembly, a demonic parliament housed in Laharl's castle, your gameplay hub.

You can petition the Assembly to create a new character from an ever-expanding list drawn from enemies you've encountered, or you can get them to level up a particular character. All requests cost Mana, accrued through combat, but the Assembly can turn down your requests if they don't think you deserve their help. If this happens you can force the issue by challenging the Assembly to a fight, where victory guarantees their support.

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chimneyleaf
23/04/09 @ 07:25
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I really want to try the Disgaea series but just can't seem to find the motivation.
speedofthepuma
23/04/09 @ 07:43
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Great tag line.
DFawkes
23/04/09 @ 07:47
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"It's at this point that I start to wish we could have a branching review for those familiar with Disgaea and those new to the series."

Well do then! Flaunt the conventions held by other lesser sites and have 2 endings. But as you say in your one ending normal review, it's recommended to people new to the series, so I'll be in after finishing Suikoden :)
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23/04/09 @ 08:01
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Best standfirst in the history of all humankind.
iago71
23/04/09 @ 08:10
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Hmmm.... Minor quibble but the lack of the Japanese language track is a reall bummer. It really does add to the feel of the game and the English voice acting is really not the same.
Genji
23/04/09 @ 09:02
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I really tried to get into this, but concluded that Disgaea is probably just not for me. It's mind-bogglingly complex, and I never had the urge to spend the hundreds of hours on it that it apparently requires. It wasn't addictive - it was tedious.

And I really would have appreciated some sort of suspend feature in the game, so I could turn my game off a dozen or so levels into the Item World.
thedaveeyres
23/04/09 @ 09:04
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My favourite DS game. It's never far from the cartridge slot. I recommend it to anyone... the controls are a million times more comfortable than the PSP version and it's therefore much more suited to extended play.

Buy it!
Gnort
23/04/09 @ 09:05
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You lost me a "it's only fair to warn grindophobes", unfortunately.
mingster
23/04/09 @ 09:07
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Disgaea 2 is out on PSP.
peak_performance
23/04/09 @ 09:13
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I spent 12 hours wanting to like it, but even then the battles were becoming sooo repetitive I couldn't stomach it any more. In what I supposed was a move to be a refreshing match, I was pitted againts a dozen fighters and nothing more IIRC, but it wasn't really engaging.

I immediately loaded up Advance Wars DS and marveled at how interesting encounters Intelligent Design created. Every mission feels different and refreshing, well at least almost. Since then, Disgaea has been sitting in its cover and I don't feel any need to boot it up again ever.

I really can't see what's interesting in this, unless the later missions are so fantastically much better that I simply can't fathom it. Even then, more than 12 hours to get to an interesting encounter is a looooot of time spent on filler.

Did have a few laughs though, I'll give it that.
Murbal
23/04/09 @ 09:20
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It's only been out about a week in the UK Fluffy.
lasersrule
23/04/09 @ 09:41
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They fixed the Foresight exploit in the DS version, which majorly sucks. HOWEVER, you can unlock Prinny commentary for all the story parts. It kinda makes up for it but REALLY, the PSP has the bestest handheld version. Looks nicer for one thing.
Ninja_Tino
23/04/09 @ 09:51
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I have it for the PSP but gave up after 8 or so hours. I just couldn't really get into it. War of the Lions, on the other hand, now THAT'S a game. Also, I really don't get the subtitle of the article? There, I asked! I'm man enough to admit it. Help!
thedaveeyres
23/04/09 @ 09:59
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The PSP does have the best version of this... if you have lady-hands. If you have hands like two large cooked hams, the DS is the best version. :)
PrivateFloyd
23/04/09 @ 10:00
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NINJA

Disgaea is pronounced;

DIS-GUY-E-A

So;

DIS GUY E A BUT NOT DAT GUY DERE
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Chtulie
23/04/09 @ 10:05
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Reviewer dude:
For new players to the series but who own multiple platforms, which version is the best one to get? PS2? PSP? DS?
Meho
23/04/09 @ 10:26
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Hmm...

"the character who waked Laharl from his sleep"

I am not a native English speaker, but does the word 'waked' really exist???
Brianstorm
23/04/09 @ 10:28
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3 is out now exclusively on ps3, got the sound track free when I got it from game.
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23/04/09 @ 11:43
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@Meho
Hmm...

"the character who waked Laharl from his sleep"

I am not a native English speaker, but does the word 'waked' really exist???


Normally I've seen "woke" but "waked" is also perfectly cromulent (I think it's more common in US English though).
Cosmopolitan
23/04/09 @ 12:14
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Genji said: It's mind-bogglingly complex, and I never had the urge to spend the hundreds of hours on it that it apparently requires. It wasn't addictive - it was tedious.
This.
I've completed the first one on the PS2, mind you. Had some fun with it, but would I want to relive the experience just beacause it's on a handheld now? No.
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UltimateWarrior
23/04/09 @ 12:46
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I'm surprised that a couple of people here find the DS more confortable than the PSP. I find the DS cramps my hands up much, much quicker than the PSP. It's even worse when I have to use the shoulder buttons.
stevetuck
23/04/09 @ 12:52
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This is the game which advertised massave damage?
Zachm
23/04/09 @ 13:15
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No mention of the music in the review?
I've read that the DS version has heavily downgraded music, so I was hoping the review would mention it.
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23/04/09 @ 13:42
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@ Meho, @ sneetch, in Ireland if you said you "waked" somebody they might think you attended part of their funeral. I think it's a mistake!
Ninja_Tino
23/04/09 @ 14:22
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@stevetuck, no I THINK that was Genji or something.
darc
23/04/09 @ 14:28
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"The whole game can also be controlled with stylus, but the result is sloppy and imprecise."

Somebody really ought to get this right. FF Tactics has the same problem on DS. I keep holding out for a tactical RPG that will make use of the touch screen in a reliable, intuitive way, but it hasn't happened yet. So to date, none of these DS titles better their PSP counterparts, even though the DS would seem to be ideal for the genre.
bdizzy
23/04/09 @ 18:53
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"I really want to try the Disgaea series but just can't seem to find the motivation. "

Find it. This review assumed too much familiarity and spent too much time talking about the mechanics. The gameplay is insane as well as enjoyable, and the assortment of crackpots you will meet and tame are well worth the investment of time. Which brings me to...

"You lost me a "it's only fair to warn grindophobes", unfortunately."

I am a grindophobe. One hour in and I almost sent it back to the rental place. In the end I kept it so long I owned it. Give it time-- this is not your grandma's tedious grind. This is manic and absorbing. After a short time you start making goals up for yourself, just as a lark. Before you know it you are one of those youtube folks with level 9999 characters...

Personally, I think the Prinny commentary _is_ revolutionary (very ironic and aware of itself as a videogame). The localizers deserve a videogame oscar. Laugh out loud funny, in the over-kids-heads-for-their-parents kinda way that Pixar films used to be.

Finally:
"For new players to the series but who own multiple platforms, which version is the best one to get? PS2? PSP? DS? "

I'd go DS. I've played both. It has all the new features, and I found myself picking it up and losing hours of train rides, bus rides and flights. It is ideal for the DS, because you can just play 10 minutes, level a bit, and save the narrative arc for when you have a couple hours. It is hard to convey how SATISFYING the leveling is on this one... it hasn't left my DS in months. Infinite replayability (THREE entire story arcs to explore: the main one, Etna mode, and the commentary).

In short, buy it. My GOTY for 2008 (we got it last autumn here).
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neonxaos
24/04/09 @ 07:30
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Hmmm... I got the PS2 version, never have the time to play it. So I thought I'd go portable. But noon's really anwered the question - is the DS version or the PSP version best? I almost never use my PSP, while my DS goes everywhere with me. But I'm not liking this talk of cut-down music and fuzzy speech.
Chupakun
06/05/09 @ 21:03
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I think the dialogue's been cut down as well. As in, voiced sections. For example, in the bit with Mid-boss: the guy had this haughty, sardonic voice. Where'd it go?
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