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Disgaea DS Review

DS Review by Dan Whitehead

22 April, 2009

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There's also Item World, in which you can voyage inside inventory items and clear them of monsters in order to improve their stats. The castle also contains a hospital, for healing your characters, and a store which allows you to stock up on the usual weapons, armour and status-effect items. Even before you've ventured too far into the story missions, there's already a vast array of ways to tweak the game world, so even though the story is linear it's unlikely that any two players will approach them in the exact same way.

The game is also designed for repeated play, looping round and starting again at the end, with all stats and items carried over from one playthrough to the next. Each story mission can also be replayed as many times as you'd like, and if you're deep into the game, such grinding can become essential. It's a deliberate design choice rather than a flaw, but it's only fair to warn grindophobes that this is a game where the tastiest rewards only come from hundreds of hours of dedication.

It's at this point that I start to wish we could have a branching review for those familiar with Disgaea and those new to the series. If you're one of the latter then consider this an enthusiastic endorsement - Disgaea is one of the smartest, richest and funniest games of its type for many years, and deserves to be experienced. This DS port is surprisingly faithful, cramming in all the essential features of the PSP version, as well as loads of speech.

The graphics haven't diminished in style, although the game does suffer slightly from being squeezed into the smaller DS screen. Your view can still only be rotated in crude quarterly increments, leading to confusion when characters and scenery are bunched up together, but it's an otherwise impressive technical translation.

'Disgaea DS' Screenshot 3

The shop is one of the few instances where the dual screen proves truly useful.

For those who have followed the series through its various guises and sequels, however, there is some cause for concern. Back when we reviewed Disgaea 3 on the PS3, Simon concluded that it was "a sequel that makes some interesting changes to the way the journey plays out, but too few to the ultimate destination". Given that kernel of concern, the fact that this is now the third time the original game has been revisted does suggest that Nippon Ichi seems reluctant to let go of a successful template.

It's not as if Disgaea DS does much to take advantage of its new hardware, with the top screen only offering a basic map or character stats. It's handy for a quick reference, but other DS strategy titles have done more with the concept. The whole game can also be controlled with stylus, but the result is sloppy and imprecise. The additional storyline, Etna Mode, is carried over from the PSP and the most notable extras unique to the DS are unlikely to warrant a third purchase from fans: Nippon Ichi's recurring mascot, Pleniair, is unlockable as a playable character while completing the story mode allows you to add a sarcastic Prinny commentary on your next playthrough. Cute, but hardly revolutionary.

Multiplayer, too, feels like something of a half-measure. Playable only via a local connection, the two-player duels are certainly fun, but while you can use your squads from the story mode you gain no experience. Demon Gadgets are randomly placed objects that offer often ludicrous benefits to the player who discovers them. Call me a silly old fusspot, but I found these rogue elements produced a annoyingly unbalanced experience.

It seems churlish to consider these negatives as too important in the grand scheme of things though, and anyone who has yet to sample the joys of Disgaea can happily disregard them. The core game remains an absolute gem; a deep and immersive masterpiece of interlocking gameplay design. It's just a shame that having set such a wonderfully high standard back in 2003, the Disgaea series now seems to be more interested in reliving past glories than building on them.

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chimneyleaf
23/04/09 @ 07:25
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I really want to try the Disgaea series but just can't seem to find the motivation.
speedofthepuma
23/04/09 @ 07:43
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Great tag line.
DFawkes
23/04/09 @ 07:47
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"It's at this point that I start to wish we could have a branching review for those familiar with Disgaea and those new to the series."

Well do then! Flaunt the conventions held by other lesser sites and have 2 endings. But as you say in your one ending normal review, it's recommended to people new to the series, so I'll be in after finishing Suikoden :)
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23/04/09 @ 08:01
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Best standfirst in the history of all humankind.
iago71
23/04/09 @ 08:10
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Hmmm.... Minor quibble but the lack of the Japanese language track is a reall bummer. It really does add to the feel of the game and the English voice acting is really not the same.
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23/04/09 @ 09:02
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I really tried to get into this, but concluded that Disgaea is probably just not for me. It's mind-bogglingly complex, and I never had the urge to spend the hundreds of hours on it that it apparently requires. It wasn't addictive - it was tedious.

And I really would have appreciated some sort of suspend feature in the game, so I could turn my game off a dozen or so levels into the Item World.
thedaveeyres
23/04/09 @ 09:04
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My favourite DS game. It's never far from the cartridge slot. I recommend it to anyone... the controls are a million times more comfortable than the PSP version and it's therefore much more suited to extended play.

Buy it!
Gnort
23/04/09 @ 09:05
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You lost me a "it's only fair to warn grindophobes", unfortunately.
mingster
23/04/09 @ 09:07
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Disgaea 2 is out on PSP.
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23/04/09 @ 09:13
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I spent 12 hours wanting to like it, but even then the battles were becoming sooo repetitive I couldn't stomach it any more. In what I supposed was a move to be a refreshing match, I was pitted againts a dozen fighters and nothing more IIRC, but it wasn't really engaging.

I immediately loaded up Advance Wars DS and marveled at how interesting encounters Intelligent Design created. Every mission feels different and refreshing, well at least almost. Since then, Disgaea has been sitting in its cover and I don't feel any need to boot it up again ever.

I really can't see what's interesting in this, unless the later missions are so fantastically much better that I simply can't fathom it. Even then, more than 12 hours to get to an interesting encounter is a looooot of time spent on filler.

Did have a few laughs though, I'll give it that.
Murbal
23/04/09 @ 09:20
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It's only been out about a week in the UK Fluffy.
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23/04/09 @ 09:41
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They fixed the Foresight exploit in the DS version, which majorly sucks. HOWEVER, you can unlock Prinny commentary for all the story parts. It kinda makes up for it but REALLY, the PSP has the bestest handheld version. Looks nicer for one thing.
Ninja_Tino
23/04/09 @ 09:51
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I have it for the PSP but gave up after 8 or so hours. I just couldn't really get into it. War of the Lions, on the other hand, now THAT'S a game. Also, I really don't get the subtitle of the article? There, I asked! I'm man enough to admit it. Help!
thedaveeyres
23/04/09 @ 09:59
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The PSP does have the best version of this... if you have lady-hands. If you have hands like two large cooked hams, the DS is the best version. :)
PrivateFloyd
23/04/09 @ 10:00
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NINJA

Disgaea is pronounced;

DIS-GUY-E-A

So;

DIS GUY E A BUT NOT DAT GUY DERE
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Chtulie
23/04/09 @ 10:05
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Reviewer dude:
For new players to the series but who own multiple platforms, which version is the best one to get? PS2? PSP? DS?
Meho
23/04/09 @ 10:26
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Hmm...

"the character who waked Laharl from his sleep"

I am not a native English speaker, but does the word 'waked' really exist???
Brianstorm
23/04/09 @ 10:28
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3 is out now exclusively on ps3, got the sound track free when I got it from game.
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23/04/09 @ 11:43
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@Meho
Hmm...

"the character who waked Laharl from his sleep"

I am not a native English speaker, but does the word 'waked' really exist???


Normally I've seen "woke" but "waked" is also perfectly cromulent (I think it's more common in US English though).
Cosmopolitan
23/04/09 @ 12:14
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Genji said: It's mind-bogglingly complex, and I never had the urge to spend the hundreds of hours on it that it apparently requires. It wasn't addictive - it was tedious.
This.
I've completed the first one on the PS2, mind you. Had some fun with it, but would I want to relive the experience just beacause it's on a handheld now? No.
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UltimateWarrior
23/04/09 @ 12:46
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I'm surprised that a couple of people here find the DS more confortable than the PSP. I find the DS cramps my hands up much, much quicker than the PSP. It's even worse when I have to use the shoulder buttons.
stevetuck
23/04/09 @ 12:52
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This is the game which advertised massave damage?
Zachm
23/04/09 @ 13:15
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No mention of the music in the review?
I've read that the DS version has heavily downgraded music, so I was hoping the review would mention it.
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23/04/09 @ 13:42
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@ Meho, @ sneetch, in Ireland if you said you "waked" somebody they might think you attended part of their funeral. I think it's a mistake!
Ninja_Tino
23/04/09 @ 14:22
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@stevetuck, no I THINK that was Genji or something.
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23/04/09 @ 14:28
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"The whole game can also be controlled with stylus, but the result is sloppy and imprecise."

Somebody really ought to get this right. FF Tactics has the same problem on DS. I keep holding out for a tactical RPG that will make use of the touch screen in a reliable, intuitive way, but it hasn't happened yet. So to date, none of these DS titles better their PSP counterparts, even though the DS would seem to be ideal for the genre.
bdizzy
23/04/09 @ 18:53
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"I really want to try the Disgaea series but just can't seem to find the motivation. "

Find it. This review assumed too much familiarity and spent too much time talking about the mechanics. The gameplay is insane as well as enjoyable, and the assortment of crackpots you will meet and tame are well worth the investment of time. Which brings me to...

"You lost me a "it's only fair to warn grindophobes", unfortunately."

I am a grindophobe. One hour in and I almost sent it back to the rental place. In the end I kept it so long I owned it. Give it time-- this is not your grandma's tedious grind. This is manic and absorbing. After a short time you start making goals up for yourself, just as a lark. Before you know it you are one of those youtube folks with level 9999 characters...

Personally, I think the Prinny commentary _is_ revolutionary (very ironic and aware of itself as a videogame). The localizers deserve a videogame oscar. Laugh out loud funny, in the over-kids-heads-for-their-parents kinda way that Pixar films used to be.

Finally:
"For new players to the series but who own multiple platforms, which version is the best one to get? PS2? PSP? DS? "

I'd go DS. I've played both. It has all the new features, and I found myself picking it up and losing hours of train rides, bus rides and flights. It is ideal for the DS, because you can just play 10 minutes, level a bit, and save the narrative arc for when you have a couple hours. It is hard to convey how SATISFYING the leveling is on this one... it hasn't left my DS in months. Infinite replayability (THREE entire story arcs to explore: the main one, Etna mode, and the commentary).

In short, buy it. My GOTY for 2008 (we got it last autumn here).
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neonxaos
24/04/09 @ 07:30
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Hmmm... I got the PS2 version, never have the time to play it. So I thought I'd go portable. But noon's really anwered the question - is the DS version or the PSP version best? I almost never use my PSP, while my DS goes everywhere with me. But I'm not liking this talk of cut-down music and fuzzy speech.
Chupakun
06/05/09 @ 21:03
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I think the dialogue's been cut down as well. As in, voiced sections. For example, in the bit with Mid-boss: the guy had this haughty, sardonic voice. Where'd it go?
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