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  • Latin 7 Aug 2006 17:05:01 3,616 posts
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    marilena wrote:
    Latin, I'm sorry, but we have different definitions for variation. This is variation. I don't know if you like or dislike Pitt, anyway, don't take that into account, just take a look at how different his roles are in films like Twelve Monkeys, Snatch, Fight Club, Thelma and Luise etc.

    Granted there's some more varied roles, but he's a bit of a shit actor, as in his acting is a bit poo, I would much rather watch Al Pacino shout really really well than Brad Pitt doing lots of different things quite badly.

    Although to be fair I don't think Pitt is that bad, actually he's fairly good but in no way does his acting compare to Pacino's.
  • repairmanjack 7 Aug 2006 17:08:24 6,024 posts
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    morriss wrote: Insider was/is a brilliant movie

    Couldn't agree more. Everyone else I know hated it though.
  • Spanky 7 Aug 2006 17:20:48 14,481 posts
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    Pitts stoner dude in True Romance knocks anything Pacino has done into a hat full of cock. ;)

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  • GingerMagician 7 Aug 2006 17:44:14 3,012 posts
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    Haven't heard anyone mention Carlito's Way yet.

    Love that film and think Pacino's pretty good in it - though Penn upstages him pretty comprehensively.
  • kalel 7 Aug 2006 17:51:47 87,136 posts
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    GingerMagician wrote:
    Haven't heard anyone mention Carlito's Way yet.

    Love that film and think Pacino's pretty good in it - though Penn upstages him pretty comprehensively.

    Nah, had some ok scenes, but thought Carlito's Way was a shadow of Scarface, the film it was supposedly a spiritual sequel too. Plus he's WELL shouty in it.

    Don't even get me STARTED on whatever happened to Brian De Palma...sheeesh!
  • cubbymoore 7 Aug 2006 18:03:32 36,488 posts
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    Well there goes my credibility. I don't know anything about acting.
  • morriss 7 Aug 2006 18:05:39 70,947 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    morriss wrote:
    Heat=Shit. We agree. The Insider though, too wordy for ya was it? No enough helicopters? Too 'close' subject matter?

    Seriously though. Insider was/is a brilliant movie, from the Direction through to the music. (has soundtrack)

    Heat = one of the best action movies since the 70ies.

    Well Lou as this is you making this statement I will say I only saw the film at the time of release and I thought it was 'ok'. I haven't seen it since, however. So I'll retract ny statement....for now. :)
  • UncleLou Moderator 7 Aug 2006 18:05:46 35,517 posts
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    PS2 is the greatest console the world has ever know. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know jack shit about gaming.

    Suddenly sounds like blinkered fanboy gibberish, eh? ;p
  • morriss 7 Aug 2006 18:08:44 70,947 posts
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    The man has a point.
  • UncleLou Moderator 7 Aug 2006 18:12:48 35,517 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    UncleLou wrote:
    morriss wrote:
    Heat=Shit. We agree. The Insider though, too wordy for ya was it? No enough helicopters? Too 'close' subject matter?

    Seriously though. Insider was/is a brilliant movie, from the Direction through to the music. (has soundtrack)

    Heat = one of the best action movies since the 70ies.

    Well Lou as this is you making this statement I will say I only saw the film at the time of release and I thought it was 'ok'. I haven't seen it since, however. So I'll retract ny statement....for now. :)

    /honoured

    I really love the film - you could argue that it has a few lengths, but it's a film that, as opposed to the usual special effect fireworks of the 80ies and 90ies, follows the tradition of more "realistic", gritty films like Bullitt or French Connection, which is the tradition in which I would firmly place it.

    Of course, DeNiro and Pacino will never be as good as Hackman or as cool as McQueen (Hehe), but they're good, very good. Wonderful cinematography, too, and the best shootout in any film ever. :)
  • afray 7 Aug 2006 18:36:57 2,251 posts
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    kalel wrote:

    Hehe, wait till you get me started on Heat. Jesus Christ just thinking about it makes...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    \ignore

    Christ, wronger than a tuna and jam sandwich.

    Pacino, when he's good, is great. Same with De Niro. When they're bad, they're aweful. But it hasn't been continously one or 't other, they both fluctuate. A lot.

  • THFourteen 7 Aug 2006 18:37:54 33,260 posts
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    One of my favourite actors Al Pacino.

    I like his acting style.

    Him and Mel Gibson ftw!

  • afray 7 Aug 2006 18:38:36 2,251 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:

    Heat = one of the best action movies since the 70ies.

    You are so wrong.

    Not since the 70s, since FOR EVER. :-)
  • afray 7 Aug 2006 18:43:56 2,251 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:Wonderful cinematography, too, and the best shootout in any film ever. :)

    This is why you can watch Heat over and over again. You can just wallow in the framing of the shots, the electricity in the performances, the sub plots and themes you can pick out over time, etc. I don't just love that film, I love watching that film.
  • BlindDumbDeaf 7 Aug 2006 19:31:51 206 posts
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    Al was fantastic in Stella Street. John Hurt ran him pretty close though.
  • Stormflood 7 Aug 2006 19:32:26 2,263 posts
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    Damn, now I have to go and rent Heat again....
  • morriss 7 Aug 2006 19:33:51 70,947 posts
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    BlindDumbDeaf wrote:
    Al was fantastic in Stella Street. John Hurt ran him pretty close though.

    heh. Woooh Mike.

    (you're back btw)
  • Dirtbox 7 Aug 2006 19:40:52 77,756 posts
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    Chinese Coffee is a great film if you want to see him back on his old form. It's pretty recent and it's basically him and Jerry Orbach for the whole thing. IMDB

    Edited by Dirtbox at 19:41:08 07-08-2006

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  • silentbob 7 Aug 2006 19:44:46 28,958 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    Of course, DeNiro and Pacino will never be as good as Hackman or as cool as McQueen (Hehe), but they're good, very good. Wonderful cinematography, too, and the best shootout in any film ever. :)
    Yes yes yes. Utterly perfect. The sense of palpable tension when I saw that in the cinema was incredible. No score, save for the final few seconds - just a sort of mesmerising cacophony of gunfire. Utter brilliance!

    Oh and the sound mix is seoncd to none too, but this IS Michael Mann. :)

    Edit: Forgot to mention that hos best performance was Scent of a Woman by a acountry mile. Since then (and including Heat) he has slipped into shouty dwarf territory a little too often for my liking.

    Edited by silentbob at 19:47:02 07-08-2006

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  • BlindDumbDeaf 7 Aug 2006 19:46:03 206 posts
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    Yeh. Been stuck in a nest of corporate vipers and a quagmire of HR issues within a myriad of controversy.
  • polar 8 Aug 2006 01:16:28 1,098 posts
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    Hoooaahhh! for Pacino, the man's an acting legend. Heat is one of my favourite films of the 90's. As mentioned already he was good in Scent of a Woman, Insomnia, Insider and Glengarry Glenross. Everyone has their off days and he does shout excessively, but for me, Pacino has been the most consistently good actor of his generation - he's been in so many great films.

    The very notion that Brad Pitt is better than Pacino is laughable - I hated his performance in 12 monkeys, so OTT and unbelievable.

  • pistol 8 Aug 2006 08:43:45 13,019 posts
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    Latin wrote:
    marilena wrote:
    Latin, I'm sorry, but we have different definitions for variation. This is variation. I don't know if you like or dislike Pitt, anyway, don't take that into account, just take a look at how different his roles are in films like Twelve Monkeys, Snatch, Fight Club, Thelma and Luise etc.

    Granted there's some more varied roles, but he's a bit of a shit actor, as in his acting is a bit poo, I would much rather watch Al Pacino shout really really well than Brad Pitt doing lots of different things quite badly.

    Although to be fair I don't think Pitt is that bad, actually he's fairly good but in no way does his acting compare to Pacino's.

    Is it my imagination or does the 2nd paragraph pretty much contradict the first? ;-)

    Anybody see Pacino in Dog Day Afternoon? I really like that film.

    Edited by pistol at 08:48:13 08-08-2006
  • Youthist 8 Aug 2006 08:49:33 10,011 posts
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    Stormflood wrote:
    Damn, now I have to go and rent Heat again....

    There is talk of some of Miami Vice being up there with the best action scenes in Heat....

    Think of how stupid the average person is, and realise half of them are stupider than that

  • morriss 8 Aug 2006 10:07:49 70,947 posts
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    BlindDumbDeaf wrote:
    Yeh. Been stuck in a nest of corporate vipers and a quagmire of HR issues within a myriad of controversy.


    Nothing new then, I see! :)
  • kincaide 8 Aug 2006 10:10:33 5,067 posts
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    Spanky wrote:
    Pitts stoner dude in True Romance knocks anything Pacino has done into a hat full of cock. ;)

    /goes back under bridge
    /sticks head out
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  • mr-rick 8 Aug 2006 10:13:49 1,044 posts
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    Youthist wrote:
    Stormflood wrote:
    Damn, now I have to go and rent Heat again....

    There is talk of some of Miami Vice being up there with the best action scenes in Heat....

    surely not from anyone who's actually seen it though?

    Actually the action is okay but you don't really care about it as the characters and acting is so rubbish, unlike in heat where you have a real emotional involvement with all those crazy gun-wielding loons.
  • kincaide 8 Aug 2006 10:15:36 5,067 posts
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    polar wrote:
    The very notion that Brad Pitt is better than Pacino is laughable - I hated his performance in 12 monkeys, so OTT and unbelievable.


    Unbelievable? 12 monkeys was hardly a gritty cinema verite...
  • Latin 8 Aug 2006 10:19:05 3,616 posts
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    mr rick wrote:
    Youthist wrote:
    Stormflood wrote:
    Damn, now I have to go and rent Heat again....

    There is talk of some of Miami Vice being up there with the best action scenes in Heat....

    surely not from anyone who's actually seen it though?

    Actually the action is okay but you don't really care about it as the characters and acting is so rubbish, unlike in heat where you have a real emotional involvement with all those crazy gun-wielding loons.

    Miami Vice was shite, everyone mumbled their lines, the story was shite, Colin Drunk Twat was emotionless, their was no chemistry with between the actors which was especially evident in any sex scenes. It was 2 hours of crap before a decent shoot out, not worth the effort.
  • UncleLou Moderator 8 Aug 2006 10:19:49 35,517 posts
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