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  • jackhjharding 18 Aug 2005 13:36:00 390 posts
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    Will people who do not have HD TV's suffer badly when playing on the Xbox 360, or will it not make a real difference?
  • drumbaby 18 Aug 2005 13:39:22 2,688 posts
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    Define 'suffer'.
  • [maven] 18 Aug 2005 13:39:52 5,152 posts
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    Well, to be entirely honest, I think a progressive picture at 1280x720 will look better than the above either rendered or shrunk to 640x480 (or 720x576) and shown interlaced. So I think the money for the VGA cable is well spent for playing on my 20" Dell Widescreen display.

    Or so I tell myself...
  • MikeD 18 Aug 2005 13:40:06 10,063 posts
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    As long as you stay away from hdtv's you'll never know the difference.
  • bloke 18 Aug 2005 13:45:08 1,489 posts
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    MikeD wrote:
    As long as you stay away from hdtv's you'll never know the difference.

    So true - you can't go back, as they say.

    Jeez - I might even sub to Sky to get HDTV transmissions.
  • draven 18 Aug 2005 13:50:15 96 posts
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    im thinking it will look oky on a standard widescreen non HD tv.. because the box will be outputting at 480 and not outputting at 1080 and then scaling it down?.. anyway, the FSAA should make everything look just fine :).

    the people suffering will be the poor sods without a widescreen tv!...

    but its there own fault the silly bastardos'es ;)
  • Hurleybird 18 Aug 2005 13:52:51 1,381 posts
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    I'll be playing my Xbox 360 on my Monitor - not forking out for a huge LCD TV, not until my current nice Sony job packs it in.
  • sephy 18 Aug 2005 14:08:53 4,036 posts
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    I use component over a vga box for 480+ atm. You can definately notice the difference on my 26" LCD.

    I'll definately be getting a vga lead for when i eventually get a xbox360*


    * I would say "if" as i have no current plans, but I've been buying consoles myself long enough to know that "never say never" is the policy of choice
  • p3rks 18 Aug 2005 14:11:59 1,085 posts
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    So as a follow up to this, I have a LCD Hi-Def ready set, with both HD component and VGA in, which is best cable to get?
  • sephy 18 Aug 2005 14:14:00 4,036 posts
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    Theres a 99% chance you dont have a crt that supports hdtv

    You need a projector, lcd or plasma really

    basic hdtv is 720p (1280x720 in progressive scan)
    On a crt you might have 480p (standard progressive scan mode), but this isnt HDTV

    p3rks - i'd probably go for VGA if you dont have your pc hooked up to it. Leaves your component free for dvd/ps2 etc. Picture wise I doubt you will see a difference though

    Edited by sephy at 14:15:41 18-08-2005
  • sephy 18 Aug 2005 14:23:30 4,036 posts
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    640x480

    iirc 480p isnt a widescreen picture by default (although you can stretch the 640 ofc)
  • Pirotic Moderator 18 Aug 2005 14:30:57 20,646 posts
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    I'm torn, hopefully i can afford a HDTV by then - but otherwise i'll probably end up just playing on the big TV in 480p rather than having to sit at a desk - whats what PC games are for :p
  • sephy 18 Aug 2005 14:31:21 4,036 posts
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    rhythm wrote:
    sephy wrote:
    Theres a 99% chance you dont have a crt that supports hdtv

    Yeah, why is that? Australia has an ace range of affordable CRT HDTVs outputting right up to 1080p yet we see nothing

    because we are in europe \o............ :(
  • gizmo 18 Aug 2005 14:43:30 2,025 posts
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    I bought a 50" HD plasma with a resolution of 1366x768 and the difference between bog standard xbox output and PC output as the correct res is absolutely astounding.

    I wouldn't worry about higher res games running on a normal telly though, I've always liked to think of it as hardware anti-aliasing.
  • Jmog 18 Aug 2005 19:13:13 391 posts
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    p3rks wrote:
    So as a follow up to this, I have a LCD Hi-Def ready set, with both HD component and VGA in, which is best cable to get?

    Would depend on the quality of the cables, but VGA should have a small edge. On anything smaller than 40" you probably won't be able to tell the difference. In your position, I would get the VGA since you can also use that with a PC monitor. That way you could bring it to a friend's house and show off :-).

    Basically, just get the one you would prefer to take up an input. If you already have something using component, get VGA and vice versa.
  • Nexus_6 22 Aug 2005 11:20:28 3,872 posts
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    HI, JACK...

    /rushes in to thread, changes topic for a few minutes

    /rushes back out as though he wasnt even here....

    BYE, JACK


    (see what i did there?)
  • silentbob 22 Aug 2005 11:37:03 28,948 posts
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    Nexus 6 wrote:
    HI, JACK...

    /rushes in to thread, changes topic for a few minutes

    /rushes back out as though he wasnt even here....

    BYE, JACK


    (see what i did there?)
    Isn't it time for you to die yet? Tsk.

    Edited by silentbob at 11:39:57 22-08-2005

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  • ColonelKelly 22 Aug 2005 14:41:08 2 posts
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    Well now, some info for a few of you. The cheapest descent HDTV that is currently available and i would recommend is one by samsung. Its an LCD so clearer than a plasma, and has enough connectivity and screen options (i've actually seen one with an HDTV feed running and its crystal clear! The main interest with the Samsung is that when you have demo boothes for Xbox 360, the samsung is going to be the monitors used in the boothes as standard, they were pretty much designed just for the job, and at the price of sub £1000 You cant go wrong.

    http://empiredirect.co.uk/content/products/details/html/SAM-LE26R41B.htm
    Thats the 26" version, personally i'd go for the 32" but not everyone has a huge budget and a 26" could also be used as a pc monitor

    Anyways, hope this helps some!
  • Nexus_6 22 Aug 2005 14:45:10 3,872 posts
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    silentbob wrote:
    Nexus 6 wrote:
    HI, JACK...

    /rushes in to thread, changes topic for a few minutes

    /rushes back out as though he wasnt even here....

    BYE, JACK


    (see what i did there?)
    Isn't it time for you to die yet? Tsk.

    Edited by silentbob at 11:39:57 22-08-2005


    ah such witty riposte!
  • oceanmotion 22 Aug 2005 14:46:49 15,650 posts
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    I like Samsung stuff. Seems reliable and now that they are an official partner with MS. Good to go I say. Now, just need to save some money.
  • silentbob 22 Aug 2005 15:05:24 28,948 posts
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    Nexus 6 wrote:
    silentbob wrote:
    Nexus 6 wrote:
    HI, JACK...

    /rushes in to thread, changes topic for a few minutes

    /rushes back out as though he wasnt even here....

    BYE, JACK


    (see what i did there?)
    Isn't it time for you to die yet? Tsk.

    Edited by silentbob at 11:39:57 22-08-2005


    ah such witty riposte!
    ithangyoo!

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  • Mike_Hunt 22 Aug 2005 15:09:23 23,512 posts
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    silentbob wrote:
    Nexus 6 wrote:
    silentbob wrote:
    Nexus 6 wrote:
    HI, JACK...

    /rushes in to thread, changes topic for a few minutes

    /rushes back out as though he wasnt even here....

    BYE, JACK


    (see what i did there?)
    Isn't it time for you to die yet? Tsk.

    Edited by silentbob at 11:39:57 22-08-2005


    ah such witty riposte!
    ithangyoo!
    If you're about bob, could you please send an email to lucidgaming at hotmail dot com?

    [MH]
  • silentbob 22 Aug 2005 15:12:55 28,948 posts
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    Mike_Hunt wrote:
    If you're about bob, could you please send an email to lucidgaming at hotmail dot com?
    [MH]
    You have mail.

    Edited by silentbob at 15:15:59 22-08-2005

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  • eviltobz  22 Aug 2005 15:15:41 2,609 posts
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    ColonelKelly wrote:
    Well now, some info for a few of you. The cheapest descent HDTV that is currently available and i would recommend is one by samsung. Its an LCD so clearer than a plasma, and has enough connectivity and screen options (i've actually seen one with an HDTV feed running and its crystal clear! The main interest with the Samsung is that when you have demo boothes for Xbox 360, the samsung is going to be the monitors used in the boothes as standard, they were pretty much designed just for the job, and at the price of sub £1000 You cant go wrong.

    http://empiredirect.co.uk/content/products/details/html/SAM-LE26R41B.htm
    Thats the 26" version, personally i'd go for the 32" but not everyone has a huge budget and a 26" could also be used as a pc monitor

    Anyways, hope this helps some!
    be very careful with this. it doesn't look like it is proper HD. the specs say high definition ready, which has no precise meaning, HD Ready is the logo thingy for suitable compatibility with stuff. the inputs say nothing about supporting hdmi or dvi, so it's fine for an analogue vga connection or some normal scart stuff, but not for all HD devices.
  • silentbob 22 Aug 2005 15:18:24 28,948 posts
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    duncan wrote:
    BTW anybody seen the shitstorm that's brewing due to the content protection stuff.

    Basically hdcp means that you won't be able to view content unless your monitor supports it

    /wouldn't have wanted to have spent money on an HD set that doesn't support this.

    Edited by duncan at 15:17:34 22-08-2005
    Believe me that is only the start:

    View and weep!

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  • Mike_Hunt 22 Aug 2005 15:19:14 23,512 posts
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    silentbob wrote:
    Mike_Hunt wrote:
    If you're about bob, could you please send an email to lucidgaming at hotmail dot com?
    [MH]
    You have mail.

    Edited by silentbob at 15:15:59 22-08-2005
    No I don't. :)

    edit: yes I do. It just classed it as spam

    /refrains from comment

    [MH]

    Edited by Mike_Hunt at 15:22:44 22-08-2005
  • Nexus_6 22 Aug 2005 15:26:38 3,872 posts
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    Mike_Hunt wrote:
    silentbob wrote:
    Nexus 6 wrote:
    silentbob wrote:
    Nexus 6 wrote:
    HI, JACK...

    /rushes in to thread, changes topic for a few minutes

    /rushes back out as though he wasnt even here....

    BYE, JACK


    (see what i did there?)
    Isn't it time for you to die yet? Tsk.

    Edited by silentbob at 11:39:57 22-08-2005


    ah such witty riposte!
    ithangyoo!
    If you're about bob, could you please send an email to lucidgaming at hotmail dot com?

    [MH]

    A HIJACK?!!! NEVER!!!

    OOOH THE IRONY
  • Mike_Hunt 22 Aug 2005 15:44:51 23,512 posts
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    Nexus 6 wrote:
    A HIJACK?!!! NEVER!!!

    OOOH THE IRONY
    I want your sex.

    [MH]
  • ColonelKelly 22 Aug 2005 19:15:47 2 posts
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    be very careful with this. it doesn't look like it is proper HD. the specs say high definition ready, which has no precise meaning, HD Ready is the logo thingy for suitable compatibility with stuff. the inputs say nothing about supporting hdmi or dvi, so it's fine for an analogue vga connection or some normal scart stuff, but not for all HD devices.

    Dont worry if you check out the Samsung official website you'll see that it is fully HD compatible, has all correct connections and does 720p 1080i plus, if you think about it, why would they be using this tv pairing it OFFICIALLY! with the Xbox 360, if they pair it with a tv they going to want to show off the HD quality. So, yes it is HD and Yes i was right.
  • silentbob 22 Aug 2005 19:42:06 28,948 posts
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    duncan wrote:
    Well at least that's out of the way...

    non hdcp content will be floating about.

    I should imagine that a PC will end up being able to display this stuff pretty well... whether it's original or hacked.
    This was done some time ago. But is the absolute least of our worries at present.

    I am still unwilling to believe that all of the measures detailed in my previously linked article will become a reality (if only because of the technical impracticalities) - but I agree that they are a real disincentive to early adopters.

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