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When it was good, it was very very good - the betrayal of the Jedi was as good as the Throne Room scene in ROTJ for emotion. When it was bad it was a bit depressing - the droid army is pathetic as light entertainment, such as arguing amongst themselves when they thought they heard the communicator. It just felt forced (no pun intended).
The final battle was excellent and Ewans best bit of acting in the whole trilogy.
Couple of points I noticed/questioned:
In the time it took Anakin to call Sidious from the lava planet to tell him he had killed Gunray et al, Padme had hopped in a space ship and got from Coruscant to an outer rim planet!
I didnt like how the "disappearing Jedi" thing was done, just too simplistic imho, although I guess in hindsight it was cleared it up.
I didnt like how they showed the Death Star being constructed - basically saying it took 20 years, then a new one springs up in RotJ in the space of 5 years?
Not to be too negative (I'm going again Sunday and next Tuesday and theres something downloading at the moment...), I loved the scene where Luke gets handed to Beru and Owen is doing the whole Binary Sunset thing. And the parallel of Vader being reborn as his kids are was maybe a little obvious, but I liked it.
Just sad its all over now...
They arent neccesarily Jedi offspring...force sensitivity isnt always genetic (apparently).
Oh and one other thing all three prequels missed was a really top notch space battle. Ep1's was about as long as Haydens career is going to be now. Ep2 didnt really have one (but neither did Empire and the ground war was cool). Ep3's didnt really seem like an epic battle. I'm not saying it wasnt big as obviously there was alot going on there, but the battle was too focused on the two Jedi.
Mind you I'm biased cos the assault on the first Death Star is my favourite film sequence evah.
Spanky wrote:The queen. AFAIK she doesn't know she's adapted.
...but... a clanger that i have is that doesn't leia in RotJ describe the early life of her mother, "lonely and sad" or somesuch, how'd that come about if she died in childbirth or is she on about the queen of alderran?
Doesnt Luke ask her about her "real mother" on Endor though? (could be wrong). I was wondering if it could be taken as a sign of Leia's Force Sensitivity when she was a foetus.
/also reads too much into things
I'm off to see it again on Sunday, and Tuesday as its half price ticket price where I live, and maybe take advantage of Orange Wednesday Oh and theres that dodgy version I've got too...
Incidently, I missed the clapping from where I saw it - its nice to have some enthusiasm and excitment shown.
Seen twice, two more sets of tickets sat on my desk! (and I found it gets even better the second time as you arent just sat in awe).
Another thought came to me though - in ESB, Obi Wan says to Yoda "That boy was our last hope" and it seems the Yoda has to remind him about Leia...whats up with that?
Pah! Cop out! I want a proper Star Wars fanboi answer.
silver jon wrote:
Damn you Furbs ! I can't account for that one either. I guess there's always going to be something that falls through the cracks when Lucas was writing RotJ without a single thought of the prequels.
Just like the line from Luke "Do you remember your mother - your *real* mother ?"
And Leia says "Just a little".
I have managed to reconcile the problem of how Vader and Kenobi have such a crap lightsabre fight in Ep4, though. After years without anyone to practice with, their leet-sabre skills (heh !) deteriorate. Like the only tennis player in the world.
Not obssessing - just running these things through my head while standing in the train carriage this morning.
The mother thing I put down to Leia having some force sensitivity in the womb., and I agree with you about the Ep4 sword fight - plus Obi Wan was about 60! Lucas is kind of lucky us fans are here to fill in the gaps for him
Isnt that retreating though? Kinda like taking your ball home cos they wont let you go up front.
That scene is relevant in Ep4, it ties in nicely and the music is perfect.
Fair enough. I was watching it yesterday and was wondering about the whole disappearing act! How did he do that then? (I'm assuming you've read something about it is why I'm asking).
Thats what spending 20 years in a desert with no internet or pr0n will teach you.
Ok, they were old but were using the dark side of the force for their own gain (ie. to still be agile) when attacking.
It wouldnt be the Jedi way for Obi Wan to do that.
Give me five mins and I'll come up with an excuse as to why Yoda does though...
/is a big Lucas apologist.
Oh and *apparently*, someone on theforce.net forum says that it may just be they were using a different style - one more akin to kendo than fencing and so on.
It seems the Ep4 fight was actually a very accurate depiction of a Kendo bout.
Not that I believe that however..
Actually, he probably still has them, theres no way he'd have got around on Endor without them, and what would be the point in him getting out of his little hole in Lukes Xwing on Dagobah? Unless he planned to swim after the crashlanding, he must have been getting ready to fly.
Edited by Furbs at 15:55:12 23-05-2005
What a heap of junk!
Oh and this is George Lucas
Edited by Furbs at 23:13:39 24-05-2005
Umm I moved out about 2 years ago. And coming from someone who ANALyses the videogame industry to the extent you do is kind of ironic do you not think?
Edited by Furbs at 23:45:38 24-05-2005
The bacta may not have been needed since he was a Jedi so can control pain/heal himself. Its also speculated that the Vader suit provides him with bacta. And we dont know the lava encrusted bits werent clean - we saw a robot removing dead flesh from his face.
I'm amazed the "farcical" nature of the moment pulled you out of the film - you do know theres no sound in space right?
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I just finished watching one of the more recent episodes of Star Wars The Clone Wars season 5 and I'm rocked with excitement.
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