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  • CrispyXUKTurbo 14 Nov 2017 20:39:17 1,251 posts
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    "Poor" these days could mean it drops a frame every 10 minutes.
  • THFourteen 14 Nov 2017 20:59:32 46,236 posts
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    I do think if its "poor" in handheld then its utterly pointless as you might as well pick it up on PS4 / PC whatever.
  • CrispyXUKTurbo 14 Nov 2017 21:02:10 1,251 posts
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    Indeed, but they're not convenient platforms are they? :D
  • DangerousDave_87 14 Nov 2017 21:03:16 2,698 posts
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    I'd say it's poor only in some areas. Exclusive to handheld mode, but not the entirety of handheld mode.
  • CrispyXUKTurbo 14 Nov 2017 21:05:40 1,251 posts
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    I've read that it's 60fps constant, what do you mean by poor?
  • Dazimus 14 Nov 2017 21:06:55 762 posts
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    CrispyXUKTurbo wrote:
    I've read that it's 60fps constant, what do you mean by poor?
    Certainly not 60fps constant in handheld mode.
  • Kay 14 Nov 2017 21:50:47 19,375 posts
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    @THFourteen which train? It might well have been me!

    Then again, we've met before so probably would have recognised each other.
  • THFourteen 14 Nov 2017 21:52:38 46,236 posts
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    @Kay

    heh it wasnít you I remember what you look like :-)

    The 18:43 from Waterloo to Shepperton.

    I still remember you queuing for hours at the expo to try the Vita that year.
  • DangerousDave_87 14 Nov 2017 22:01:42 2,698 posts
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    Dazimus wrote:
    CrispyXUKTurbo wrote:
    I've read that it's 60fps constant, what do you mean by poor?
    Certainly not 60fps constant in handheld mode.
    It's not locked at 60fps in docked either. Its very close, though. From somebody making the jump from the PS4 version: its perfectly playable. I'd say it was very good, in fact. Undocked is an issue, though.

    Again, its a case of the fancier the arena, the greater the drops in frames. I'd say at least 6 of the 10 standard arenas are fine. Its mainly the Sci-fi themed arena that has issues. The frame rate and the resolution both drop dramatically. It arguably should have been dropped from this console. I'd certainly not recommended using it for online play.

    Once again, I'm surprised they haven't reduced the detail in the arenas. They genuinely look identical to the PS4 version, except with lower-res textures. Its clearly impacting the game and isn't necessary given the resolution.

    Edited by DangerousDave_87 at 22:05:45 14-11-2017
  • Duffking 14 Nov 2017 22:04:23 14,856 posts
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    The poor in handheld comments are probably talking more about how the resolution drops insanely low in handheld mode on some maps.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 14 Nov 2017 22:19:18 6,797 posts
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    I just got absolutely bummed sideways by a team of Psy Net experts. What's that all about?
  • mangojoe 14 Nov 2017 22:20:39 1,527 posts
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    Just had a quick couple of games. Hattrick on first one! Was pleasantly surprised how well it played.
  • DangerousDave_87 14 Nov 2017 23:19:19 2,698 posts
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    @BigOrkWaaagh Super experienced PC players.
  • Addy_B 14 Nov 2017 23:21:15 1,676 posts
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    BigOrkWaaagh wrote:
    I just got absolutely bummed sideways by a team of Psy Net experts. What's that all about?
    Yeah me too.

    Game is brilliant. Plays super handheld. No complaints here.
  • DangerousDave_87 14 Nov 2017 23:27:48 2,698 posts
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    @BigOrkWaaagh Play ranked. It matches you with equally skilled opponents. You can also turn off cross-platform play if you want to avoid PC players for a while.

    Edited by DangerousDave_87 at 23:49:55 14-11-2017
  • PrivateFloyd 14 Nov 2017 23:36:07 5,037 posts
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    Any of you lot fancy a couple of Games? Iíve set up a lobby.
  • DangerousDave_87 14 Nov 2017 23:41:02 2,698 posts
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    @PrivateFloyd I'm only sound for a little longer and I'm having major lag issues. :/

    First game was fine. Second was unplayable. Third was unplayable. Ping in the high 100s. Not sure if it's the Rocket League servers (which isn't amazing at times) or Virgin Media.

    Edit - A router reset seems to have done the trick. 1 more for me and I'm off. Would be up for a meet up either tomorrow or Thursday, though!

    Edited by DangerousDave_87 at 00:00:33 15-11-2017
  • Addy_B 15 Nov 2017 00:32:59 1,676 posts
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    Had a great night on it. Had about 10 online games. Great connection each time. Played them all handheld and besides the visual hit and some frame drops I was pretty impressed with it.
  • Gaol 15 Nov 2017 01:30:56 3,221 posts
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    Played lots of games tonight.

    It looks terrible in handheld, made worse by the textures loading in at the start. It looks like they have made a minimum effort here, just dropping resolution till it runs. I hope they optimise it post-release. Docked is better, but the game is so suited to portable play...

    The matchmaking hurts, I've only played on a Xbox free weekend before and I'm getting owned much of the time, ranked or no.

    Despite all that, the game is superb and I'll get my £15 worth no problem. The core gameplay seems to have survived and I've had no major issues with frame rate. If there's anyone here setting up a lobby for similarly inexperienced players, sign me up.
  • Bichii 15 Nov 2017 05:55:00 170 posts
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    Couldn't sleep last night so I thought I'd play some Zelda in bed :). Such a beautiful game. This are mario kart look and run superb so I'm surprised so many other games don't seem to run that great by the sounds of it. Like time development team mainly put it down to large open areas, that's what Zelda is .
  • macmurphy 15 Nov 2017 06:15:16 2,510 posts
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    In fairness Rocket League runs fine. Doom runs fine. Doom is more than fine, itís perfect 90% of the time then a bit choppy when it gets busy but itís never unplayable. Overcooked got patched.

    These games arenít performing like PS4 versions which is understandable. But only Rime has been described as genuinely unplayable.

    Itís true about the Rocket League arenas not seeming optimised, and I donít want to encourage complacency, but generally most of these games look fine and the portability makes the graphical downgrades easy to swallow.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 15 Nov 2017 06:59:04 6,797 posts
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    DangerousDave_87 wrote:
    @BigOrkWaaagh Play ranked. It matches you with equally skilled opponents.
    I think you mean equally poor opponents :)
  • neems 15 Nov 2017 07:57:21 3,500 posts
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    @macmurphy

    I have no problem with Doom performance, but ACG has absolutely savaged it, says it's unacceptable.

    And Digital Foundry said it had frame pacing issues, which i haven't seen at all.
  • Addy_B 15 Nov 2017 08:00:12 1,676 posts
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    Who's ACG?
  • mangojoe 15 Nov 2017 08:01:16 1,527 posts
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    To be honest I was more disappointed how it looks docked than handheld . But that's due to playing hours playing on ps4 pro.
  • Banyans 15 Nov 2017 08:01:53 440 posts
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    To be fair I can see what people mean with rocket league and the jaggies but it runs great and after a few seconds I forget about the graphics.
  • atothewest 15 Nov 2017 08:06:53 851 posts
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    Whoever ACG is they clearly care about vastly different things to me because I think Doom looks and plays superbly, and that's coming from playing the shit out of it on PS4 last year.

    Edit: in handheld mode. Docked it obviously fares a hell of a lot worse in direct comparison to PS4 (still "acceptable" though IMO)

    Edited by atothewest at 08:08:45 15-11-2017
  • monkman76 15 Nov 2017 08:09:01 11,886 posts
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    Addy_B wrote:
    Who's ACG?
    A fairly well-respected YouTube games reviewer. His presentation is a bit annoying but his reviews are generally decent.
  • Addy_B 15 Nov 2017 08:09:53 1,676 posts
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    AHH I don't follow youtubers so I wouldnt have a clue. Cheers.
  • macmurphy 15 Nov 2017 08:25:34 2,510 posts
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    neems wrote:
    @macmurphy

    I have no problem with Doom performance, but ACG has absolutely savaged it, says it's unacceptable.

    And Digital Foundry said it had frame pacing issues, which i haven't seen at all.
    This is just bollocks. Coming from a Wii U, itís the best looking shooter Iíve ever seen.

    You can only call something anacceptsble if you know they have produced a rushed, shoddy port. If someone produces evidence of this, fine.

    My guess would be further optimisation would require big rebuilds and more time which would make the release unprofitable on a Switch.

    As it stands, the game has been great - docked, handheld and MP matchmaking. I want to see more games like this on a Nintendo console.

    Honestly donít understand why people are calling it out. Itís excellent. If youíre the type of person that really cares about graphics, donít touch it. But donít come up with scare stories that will hurt sales.

    Almost everyone thatís commented on here has been really impressed.
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