R9 280 or GTX 770?

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  • gamingdave 20 Nov 2013 16:36:16 4,216 posts
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    Looking to upgrade my PC with a new graphics card in the 250-300 range and these seem like the two choices.

    The 280 can be had for around 275 and they are all 3GB versions.
    The 770 is roughly 250 for the 2GB model but 320+ for the 4GB model.

    From what I can tell performance of both cards is very similar. I will be running everything at 1080p and have no plans for multiple monitors or a higher resolution any time soon as I game on a projector and it will be a good while before I upgrade to a 4k model.

    The rest of my system is an old i5-750 but overclocked to 4GHz with an Asus P7P55D pro. I'm going to up the memory to 8GB and add an SSD also. Outgoing is the old 5850.

    I know the Nvidia card has PhysX but the number of games supporting it are so few it's not really a concern. The new synch tech is not something I can take advantage of, at least not for a good few years (and then assuming my next projector supported it) so also not relevant.

    Is it still an unknown as to the advantage of the extra memory onboard or have any of the new titles coming out on the next-gen consoles been shown to work better with more memory on board the card?

    My other use aside from gaming is for watching films. I'm not having much luck finding out how either handle 23.976 video content without dropping or repeating frames. Anyone got any word on this side?

    Any and all advice appreciated.
  • Rhaegyr 20 Nov 2013 16:40:27 1,593 posts
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    An old i5 clocked at 4Ghz?! I'm still running a Q6600 at 2.4Ghz :(

    Still runs everything like a dream, though (except Shogun and PS2).

    As for your question - I'd go for the 280 purely on the benchmark tests I've seen and comparison charts vs the GTX 770. If you're willing to pay for the 4GB 770 it's also worth considering the 290.
  • PenguinJim 20 Nov 2013 16:48:48 5,837 posts
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    I ordered a 770 for 216 a few weeks back, and the Twin Frozr MSI card for 240 last week, so you should be able to find one for a fair bit less than 250. Is the games bundle of any interest to you? If so, then wait for a bargain 770. If not, then wait for a bargain on either card. You're still being rather overkill for 1080P, mind you! :p
  • Buztafen 20 Nov 2013 16:59:39 16,210 posts
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    I just got one of the MSI 770's and its an awesome card but either will be good for 1080p. Take your pick...although the 3 free games swung it for me.

    And the new Batman still gives it a run for its money with everything on full at 1080p 60fps so i reckon it's just about right for a the Full HD experience without going 300 plus.

    Edited by Buztafen at 17:01:12 20-11-2013
  • gamingdave 20 Nov 2013 17:12:57 4,216 posts
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    Well, its as old as an i5 can be, it was the first one that came out.

    Bundle wise Assassin's Creed is something I want, but could easily wait for a steam sale for, I suppose I could sell the others potentially.

    The MSI Twin Forzr was one of the cards I was looking at. How quielty does it run, and any thoughts on the 2GB vs 4GB version?

    I know it's a bit overkill for 1080p but I like to have everything dialed up as much as possible and don't plan on changing my card for a good few years. My 5850 is 4 years old.
  • superdelphinus 20 Nov 2013 18:11:27 8,051 posts
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    Maybe and see whether mantle is worth the hype
  • superdelphinus 20 Nov 2013 18:11:54 8,051 posts
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    "Wait" you fucking iTwat
  • gamingdave 20 Nov 2013 18:33:12 4,216 posts
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    I had thought about mantle, but not really factored in. It would be a bonus if it added something to the table. I want to get the card ordered sooner than latter though.
  • superdelphinus 20 Nov 2013 18:55:03 8,051 posts
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    I think the bf4 mantle patch is out imminently
  • trampstar 20 Nov 2013 19:01:32 67 posts
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    You may want to try this place for cheap parts, they're brilliant.

    Novatech

    Edited by trampstar at 19:01:49 20-11-2013

    Edited by trampstar at 19:02:05 20-11-2013
  • Garfy 20 Nov 2013 19:08:04 682 posts
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    I just bought the MSI 770 Twin Frozr last week and although I haven't had that much time to try it yet it seems pretty quiet, more a whisper than a roar in games and almost silent at idle.
  • gamingdave 20 Nov 2013 19:31:52 4,216 posts
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    Seems they really are very similar. Been doing more reading and looking at more benchmarks and there really is only a couple of frames here and there to separate them.

    So it really comes down which is quietest when watching films, and which handles 23.976 film content the best. My 5850 is pretty damn reliable when setup right, only dropping a frame once an hour or so. Nvida had a bad reputation for this in the past, but has anyone got any experience or links to articles regarding the current state?
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