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  • Tonka 13 Jun 2013 07:39:45 20,005 posts
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    A good example of Gruber a few posts later he wish he wrote something along the lines of "Yeah, iOS is over the top but give it 8 years". Of course no one can call him on it since his comments are turned off.

    As for Marco I think he's the only guy who's written anything worth reading about iOS 7. Other than that I don't read much of his stuff.

    Gruber = smug cnut with good links though.

    If you can read this you really need to fiddle with your forum settings.

  • Armoured_Bear 23 Oct 2013 11:14:15 10,231 posts
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    Anyone installed it yet?

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  • Gambit1977 23 Oct 2013 11:19:39 9,583 posts
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    Yeah. But am in bed poorly so not tried it.
  • Fake_Blood 23 Oct 2013 11:25:45 4,045 posts
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    I did, took about half an hour on retina mb pro.
    Haven't noticed a lot of differences.
  • nickthegun 23 Oct 2013 11:26:45 58,777 posts
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    Its stopped chrome working so please look forward to an update for that.

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  • CharlieStCloud 23 Oct 2013 11:28:08 5,011 posts
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    I like it, although I am not sure it is any smoother or faster as Apple continuously said in their event thingummy yesterday evening.

    ... it is nice of Apple to let Mavericks be a free update however, I see little reason to pat them on the back for this seeing as Windows 8.1 was free too and I argue that that was a more significant update.
  • PhoenixFlames 23 Oct 2013 11:55:42 8,898 posts
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    I'll do this tonight. Good that it's free

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  • Fake_Blood 23 Oct 2013 12:07:50 4,045 posts
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    CharlieStCloud wrote:
    I like it, although I am not sure it is any smoother or faster as Apple continuously said in their event thingummy yesterday evening.

    ... it is nice of Apple to let Mavericks be a free update however, I see little reason to pat them on the back for this seeing as Windows 8.1 was free too and I argue that that was a more significant update.
    Windows 8.1 is only free if you own windows 8.
    Mavericks is free for every mac, which means I can update my 2007 macbook that is stuck in 10.5 leopard. So i get every update since then for free.
  • nickthegun 23 Oct 2013 12:08:27 58,777 posts
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    No you cant. You need the App store to get it.

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  • Fake_Blood 23 Oct 2013 12:15:30 4,045 posts
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    I have the App store on that macbook, maybe it's not 10.5 then.
    Will check later.
  • askew 23 Oct 2013 12:17:19 12,011 posts
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    Nick's right. Only available for those computers which have Mountain Lion on - so 2008+ Macbooks.
  • midnight_walker 23 Oct 2013 12:21:20 1,846 posts
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    I've just installed it on my work Mac Mini. Pretty background, otherwise seems much the same to me, except it now comes with Maps and iBooks. Or perhaps the iBooks logo just changed. Can't complain for free though.
  • specialgamer 23 Oct 2013 12:24:57 117 posts
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    Had the Gold Master running for a couple of weeks now and a couple of things are noticeably better: memory management (far, far less beach balls and waiting when pushing the machine hard) and battery life (probably getting an hour more on my 2011 MacBook Pro). Other than that, not much, maybe the UI feels a bit smoother and Safari no longer refreshes all tabs if you open loads of them. Well worth the upgrade, just don't expect too many new changes to the built-in apps.
  • Fab4 23 Oct 2013 12:25:48 5,975 posts
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    Hmm, I can't remember if my Mac Mini is 2009 or 2008. It has Lion installed, so does that mean it will run Mavericks?
  • CharlieStCloud 23 Oct 2013 12:28:08 5,011 posts
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    Quick to the chase, I see!

    : )

    My point was, a bit of a hoo-ha was made about Mavericks OS X being free last night when I kind of thought to myself, 'well, it's about time!', especially after the recent Windows 8.1 for free too.
  • specialgamer 23 Oct 2013 12:34:10 117 posts
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    Windows 8.1 is free because it's Microsoft's response to people HATING Windows 8 with a passion, they could hardly charge people for that. And Windows 9 will not be free, whereas the next version of OS X (or OS 11!) will be.
  • askew 23 Oct 2013 12:56:22 12,011 posts
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    Fab4 wrote:
    Hmm, I can't remember if my Mac Mini is 2009 or 2008. It has Lion installed, so does that mean it will run Mavericks?
    "Early 2009" and newer: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP505

    Mountain Lion, then yes. I'm stuck on Lion because my machine is ancient.
  • midnight_walker 23 Oct 2013 13:16:14 1,846 posts
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    8.1 is free because it's just a service pack, which have always been free form Microsoft since the dawn of time. It would have come out with or without the widespread hate for Windows 8, although they may not have bothered calling it 8.1 if people loved it.
  • Fab4 23 Oct 2013 13:21:47 5,975 posts
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    askew wrote:
    Fab4 wrote:
    Hmm, I can't remember if my Mac Mini is 2009 or 2008. It has Lion installed, so does that mean it will run Mavericks?
    "Early 2009" and newer: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP505

    Mountain Lion, then yes. I'm stuck on Lion because my machine is ancient.
    Oh wait, I have Mountain Lion. I remember needing to upgrade to it for a program I was using needed it. I guess it must be a 2009 Mini then.
  • yegon 23 Oct 2013 13:42:23 5,152 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Its stopped chrome working so please look forward to an update for that.
    Works fine on mine, is your Chrome completely up to date?

    I'd probably use Safari for iPhone/iPad integration but it still feels miles slower than Chrome, and I hate with a passion how Safari handles page back. 3 finger swipe left reloads the previous page completely, two finger swipe left does what you think it ought to do, loads from cache. But it doesn't, it's a briefly frozen image of the previous page that requires some refreshing before you can do anything. Terrible, I think it was 6.0 that brought this "feature".
  • Deleted user 23 October 2013 14:03:02
    I updated from Mountain Lion because I couldn't be fucked to pay twenty bucks to upgrade to Lion/Snow Leopard/Whatever it was called, and I can see and feel literally no difference aside from a couple of new icons. Can someone with a bit more Mac knowledge actually let me know what's changed, 'cause the Apple site basically just goes "you now have iBooks and Maps, so you can drive into a river whilst reading John Donne".
  • craigy Staff 23 Oct 2013 14:03:06 7,490 posts
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    They've removed the ability to make the dock render in 2D.

    Noooooooo!
  • craigy Staff 23 Oct 2013 14:05:41 7,490 posts
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    Also some of the typographic hinting seems to have changed slightly. Especially noticeable with 15px Helvetica.
  • nickthegun 23 Oct 2013 14:06:57 58,777 posts
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    Its broken my USB Lan adaptor. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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  • nickthegun 23 Oct 2013 14:07:48 58,777 posts
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    yegon wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    Its stopped chrome working so please look forward to an update for that.
    Works fine on mine, is your Chrome completely up to date?
    I say 'broken' there are one or two things that arent rendering properly.

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  • RichieTenenbaum 23 Oct 2013 18:24:06 2,180 posts
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    My 2009 MacBook actually feels a little better. Might be just my imagination, though
  • Deleted user 23 October 2013 18:25:45
    I have found a usefulness. The full Skydrive app now works (because it inexplicably didn't support Mountain Lion). Hooray.

    There's a lockscreen now too.
  • Deleted user 23 October 2013 18:32:03
    I've noticed no difference whatsoever other than an ibooks and a maps icon. I assume it might be doing something better in the background but that's it.
  • nickthegun 23 Oct 2013 18:33:51 58,777 posts
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    It does seem to be better at managing memory although ive been convincing myself that was the case since 10.3.

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  • yegon 23 Oct 2013 18:37:52 5,152 posts
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    Multi monitor support is stratospherically better. Worth the price of admission - 40 minutes installation -alone. I swear multi monitor was alright prior to Lion, can't remember exactly, but it was unusable in L&ML.
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